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    Here’s the latest bid for what might be the world’s next stealth fighter design. Steve Trimble went to Seoul a couple of weeks ago and was all over the South’s KF-X stealth fighter contest. Well, here’s what’s likely Boeing’s bid on the effort to develop a South Korean stealth jet.

    The image comes from a Boeing brochure advertising it’s semi-stealth F-15SE Silent Eagle — the second to last slide shows Boeing’s fighter lineage (there’s a WWII torpedo bomber in there too) and just after the Silent Eagle you’ll see a stealthy looking jet.

    This is the third “new” stealth fighter design we’ve seen from Boeing in the last year or so. Keep in mind, this is just a marketing brochure, so the aircraft you see may be nothing like the jet that Boeing actually bids on the contest.

    Click through the jump to see this brochure. It’s in Korean but still a lot of fun to look at.

    Silent Eagle Brochure



    Via The DEW Line.

    http://defensetech.org/2011/10/31/an...ealth-fighter/

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    Default Re: Another Boeing Stealth Fighter?

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    Default Re: Another Boeing Stealth Fighter?

    Interesting... more info would be helpful.

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    Default Re: Another Boeing Stealth Fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by InFn-0 View Post
    Interesting... more info would be helpful.
    Sure when i will get it i will post it here.

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    IN FOCUS: South Korea outlines strategy for indigenous fighter

    The list of foreign help that Koreans want on KFX is disclosed in that article.

    Surprisingly, it's mostly software, namely sensor fusion software and AESA radar's search&track software. Hardware wise, little foreign help is needed(RAM, sensors, missiles, and AESA radars hardware will be all local), but it's the software that they are having most trouble with.

    If this is the case, then the Typhoon suddenly becomes the front-runner in FX3 competition, because the Europeans already offered to share all Typhoon code with the Koreans and permit the use of Typhoon code in KFX in exchange for an undisclosed sum. Americans are unwilling to share software code.
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    Default Re: Another Boeing Stealth Fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korean View Post
    IN FOCUS: South Korea outlines strategy for indigenous fighter
    The list of foreign help that Koreans want on KFX is disclosed in that article.
    Surprisingly, it's mostly software, namely sensor fusion software and AESA radar's search&track software. Hardware wise, little foreign help is needed(RAM, sensors, missiles, and AESA radars hardware will be all local), but it's the software that they are having most trouble with.

    If this is the case, then the Typhoon suddenly becomes the front-runner in FX3 competition, because the Europeans already offered to share all Typhoon code with the Koreans and permit the use of Typhoon code in KFX in exchange for an undisclosed sum. Americans are unwilling to share software code.
    Long story short F-35 will join S.Korean AF in the future. KFX will always remain on the paper, it is useless to start a project that would incorporate more than half technology of US. The over-all price tag of Typhoon in comparison to F-35 is equal or close where as the advantages are lesser then that in F-35 bet or not F-35 is the future of majority Allied Air Forces.

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    Default Re: Another Boeing Stealth Fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Long story short F-35 will join S.Korean AF in the future.
    Even the F-35 backers in Korea now admit F-35's chances are bleak, because the US won't provide the listed software.

    KFX will always remain on the paper
    In case you missed the news, Turkey is now onboard.

    it is useless to start a project that would incorporate more than half technology of US.
    Actually the hardware is mostly all local excluding the engine(which can be bought off the shelf so not a problem). Two missing critical technologies are software(Sensor Fusion and AESA backend processing), now most likely of European origin.

    The over-all price tag of Typhoon in comparison to F-35 is equal or close where as the advantages are lesser then that in F-35 bet or not F-35 is the future of majority Allied Air Forces.
    You have to understand that KFX is a $30 billion project just for the first phase alone. They cannot let this $30 billion project fail by purchasing American jets and not having access to Sensor Fusion and AESA backend processing software.

    I too was skeptical of Eurofighter's chances in Korean bid, but that list changes everything. And it explains why the Eurofighter officials were stressing that Koreans could use Typhoon's software in KFX under license if Typhoon was purchased. No such offer came from Americans.
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    Default Re: Another Boeing Stealth Fighter?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korean View Post
    Even the F-35 backers in Korea now admit F-35's chances are bleak, because the US won't provide the listed software.


    In case you missed the news, Turkey is now onboard.


    Actually the hardware is mostly all local excluding the engine(which can be bought off the shelf so not a problem). Two missing critical technologies are software(Sensor Fusion and AESA backend processing), now most likely of European origin.


    You have to understand that KFX is a $30 billion project just for the first phase alone. They cannot let this $30 billion project fail by purchasing American jets and not having access to Sensor Fusion and AESA backend processing software.

    I too was skeptical of Eurofighter's chances in Korean bid, but that list changes everything. And it explains why the Eurofighter officials were stressing that Koreans could use Typhoon's software in KFX under license if Typhoon was purchased. No such offer came from Americans.
    Thanks for the post, bro. Looks like we're going to some more toys to defend ourselves from our Northern brethren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sEoulman556 View Post
    Thanks for the post, bro. Looks like we're going to some more toys to defend ourselves from our Northern brethren.
    WASHINGTON, April 3, 2013 – The Government of the Republic of Korea has requested a possible sale of (60) F-35 Joint Strike Fighter Conventional Take Off and Landing (CTOL) aircraft.
    http://www.dsca.mil/pressreleases/36...orea_13-10.pdf

    and upgrades for the F-15....

    WASHINGTON, April 3, 2013 – The Republic of Korea has requested a possible hybrid case in support of (60) F-15 Silent Eagle aircraft being
    procured via Direct Commercial Sales (DCS). The proposed sale will include 60 Active Electronically
    Scanned Array Radar (AESA) radar sets, 60 Digital Electronic Warfare Systems (DEWS), 60 AN/AAQ-33
    Sniper Targeting Systems, 60 AN/AAS-42 Infrared Search and Track (IRST) Systems, 132 Ultra High
    Frequency/Very High Frequency (UHF/VHF) secure radio with HAVE QUICK II, 69 Link-16 Terminals and
    spares, the Advanced Display Core Processor II, Joint Mission Planning System, various support equipment
    items, GEM-V GPS airborne receiver module, and communication security; software development/integration,
    spares and repair parts, personnel training and training equipment, publications and technical documents, U.S.
    Government and contract engineering and logistical personnel services, and other related elements of logistics
    and program support. The estimated cost is $2.408 billion.
    http://www.dsca.mil/PressReleases/36...orea_13-11.pdf


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