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    Times Now – a podcast project of leading Indian daily newspaper The Times of India on Friday, June 1, 2012 claimed that the United States' is on the process of stationing its naval base within the Bay of Bengal and US Seventh Fleet is scheduled to be moving towards Bangladesh maritime area within next couple of weeks. The Indian media claims that during the recent Bangladesh tour of the US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, Washington formally placed the proposal of using Bangladesh territory for its naval base. US State Department has also confirmed the matter to Times of India. The Indian news media said, "Worried by increasing presence of Chinese naval bases in the South China Sea - America now eyes a counter strategy - as it wants an overall presence in Asia - right from Japan to its Diego Garicia base in the Indian Ocean.

    "This by parking its seventh fleet in a base in Chittagong giving it both an eye on taking on China and a strategic post in Asia as it pulls out of Afghanistan. The US State Department denying on the record that Hillary Clinton's visits had anything to do with military co-operation.

    "America's concerns clearly documented in the Pentagon report as they increasingly worried over the string of pearls of Chinese bases across the South China Sea and their naval might spreading all across Asia - putting the America behind. The Bangladeshi Government remaining extremely tight-lipped over the recent developments - as they have internally decided to deny it on record - fearing backlash from their own hardliners.

    "This move by America could put India on the back foot if the American fleet moves to Bangladesh, all of India's security installations will come under the American scanner. Bangladesh is not willing to comment on record even offering explanation to deny the developments. This Clinton visit a more strategic one than just a friendly one- the Indian establishment caught unawares--as this base could cast a shadow on India's own strategic interests."


    The US Seventh Fleet:

    The Seventh Fleet is the United States Navy's permanent forward projection force operating forward deployed in Yokosuka, Japan, with units positioned near Japan and South Korea. It is a component force of the United States Pacific Fleet. At present, it is the largest of the forward-deployed U.S. fleets, with 50 to 60 ships, 350 aircraft and 60,000 Navy and Marine Corps personnel. With the support of its Task Force Commanders, it has three major assignments:

    Joint Task Force command in a natural disaster or joint military operation,

    Operational command of all naval forces in the region, and

    Defense of the Korean Peninsula. In 1994, 7th Fleet was assigned the additional responsibility as Commander, Combined Naval Component Command for the defense of South Korea.

    The Seventh Fleet was formed on 15 March 1943 in Brisbane, Australia, during World War II, under the command of Admiral Arthur S. Chips Carpender. It served in the South West Pacific Area (SWPA) under General Souglas MacArthur, and the Seventh Fleet commander also served as commander of Allied naval forces in the SWPA.

    Most of the ships of the Royal Australian Navy were also part of the fleet from 1943 to 1945 as part of Task Force 74 (formerly the Anzac Squadron). The Seventh Fleet—under Admiral Thomas C. Kinkaid—formed a large part of the Allied forces at the Battle of Leyte Gulf, the largest naval battle in history. After the end of the war, the 7th Fleet moved its headquarters to Qingdao, China.

    Princeton of the United States Third Fleet on fire east of Luzon at the Battle of Leyte Gulf.

    After the war, on 1 January 1947, the Fleet's name was changed to Naval Forces Western Pacific. On 19 August 1949, just prior to the outbreak of the Korean War, the force was designated as United States Seventh Task Fleet. On 11 February 1950, the force assumed the name United States Seventh Fleet, which it holds today.

    In late 1948, the 7th Fleet moved its principal base of operations to the Philippines, where the Navy, following the war, had developed new facilities at Subic Bay and an airfield at Sangley Point. Peacetime operations of the Seventh Fleet were under the control of Commander in Chief Pacific Fleet, Admiral Arthur E. Radford, but standing orders provided that, when operating in Japanese waters or in the event of an emergency, control would pass to Commander Naval Forces Far East, which was a component of Gen. Douglas MacArthur's occupation force.

    Of the 50-60 ships typically assigned to Seventh Fleet, 18 operate from U.S. facilities in Japan and Guam. These forward-deployed units represent the heart of Seventh Fleet. The 18 permanently forward-deployed ships of the U.S. 7th Fleet are the centerpieces of American forward presence in Asia. They are 17 steaming days closer to locations in Asia than their counterparts based in the continental U.S.

    It would take three to five times the number of rotationally-based ships in the U.S. to equal the same presence and crisis response capability as these 18 forward deployed ships. On any given day, about 50% of Seventh Fleet forces are deployed at sea throughout the area of responsibility.

    Following the end of the Cold War, the two major military scenarios in which the Seventh Fleet would be used would be in case of conflict in Korea or a conflict between People's Republic of China and Taiwan in the Taiwan Strait.

    It was reported on 10 May 2012 that USS Freedom (LCS-1) would be dispatched to Singapore in the northern spring of 2013 for a roughly 10-month deployment.


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    No matter what this base will never materialize.
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    GOOD FOR Bangladesh but
    china-India will not allow

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomi007 View Post
    GOOD FOR Bangladesh but
    china-India will not allow
    China and India have no say in this matter. If the news is correct, it has already been decided by the BD and US military and govts. China may not veto if a US presence does not prevent it from getting access for its goods to the BoB for export to other countries. USA never said against an economically rising China. Rather, it has given access to Chinese goods in its own market.

    And a US presence here rather guarantees a free passage of Chinese cargo ships without a fear of being targetted by a hostile Indian navy. Only thing USA does not want is a Chinese naval base in the BoB. If China accepts the US position in the BoB I see no reason of a US-China tension here because of a US naval acility in BD.

    Now, regarding India. India is already showing its displeasure and is opposing a possible US facility. Yes, a US presence will certainly offguard an Indian ambition to become a regional power. India is destined to remain only a superpoor country of south asia. And it is India's own making.
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    I want a stronger relationship between China India Pakistan and Russia also USA EU
    but not in military way with USA and EU they cannot be trusted

    it should be NO to any base in BD it will do harm then any good

    China Russia Pakistan India will not trust us any more

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    Dude...this end game was pending for long time from USA....Reason is obvious..

    1- US need to control China and any power that seem to be rising out of Asia.
    2- USA is not exactly a natural partner for India as Russia or could be China...Reason is if you see the trend Russia never intervened or try to control India policy that is why India and Russia relation has been going well as of now. But in case of US and India relationship, US always try to take a control of its allies and friends...Then India will not be fit into the bill in the long run...
    3- Pakistan was trusted partner for US to continue its dirty game. Now the time has changed...Pakistan will not do anything dirty against China and even India too...I believe slowly both India and Pakistan will realize that its better to talk with each other rather involving US.

    4- BD does not have any strategic benefit in wider scheme of things due its location. But it has another advantage of being a Muslim nation that identifies itself based on its ethnicity and language than being a Muslim...This is really significant to the liberal fascist in US.
    So they might be lobbying to court BD in place of Pakistan. This will help US to reign in Myanmar, India and to some extent South Eact Asia....

    5- BD policy is more towards its insecurity towards India..BD knows that China's policy is very specific about not to get involved in any other country's issues...So definitely in case of any conflict China will not provide any blanket shield against India which USA can provide.

    Possible challenge for BD:

    I am not sure if BD is aware about its not ...But if you allign with US the danger is not about what USA will do....Rather than that the political oppertunism played out by your own politician will do a lot of bad for your nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by eastwatch View Post
    China and India have no say in this matter. If the news is correct, it has already been decided by the BD and US military and govts. China may not veto if a US presence does not prevent it from getting access for its goods to the BoB for export to other countries. USA never said against an economically rising China. Rather, it has given access to Chinese goods in its own market.

    And a US presence here rather guarantees a free passage of Chinese cargo ships without a fear of being targetted by a hostile Indian navy. Only thing USA does not want is a Chinese naval base in the BoB. If China accepts the US position in the BoB I see no reason of a US-China tension here because of a US naval acility in BD.

    Now, regarding India. India is already showing its displeasure and is opposing a possible US facility. Yes, a US presence will certainly offguard an Indian ambition to become a regional power. India is destined to remain only a superpoor country of south asia. And it is India's own making.
    You seems to contradict your own statement....USA target to BD not for India...rather to control China, its proxy Myanmarr and to India if India goes out of the way US wants....

    And if USA can control China from BD territory then its China that should be worries more rather than India...And in this situation if you think that China will be a silent spectator then you are in fools paradise....
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomi007 View Post
    GOOD FOR Bangladesh but
    china-India will not allow
    Well its not up to India and China of that matter. But the thing will be that Bangladesh will not be a close friend of China anymore if this deal goes through. India doesn't have a problem since even after this India will have main control of the IOR, and I am pretty sure US won't put a carrier so close to India's border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaniska View Post
    Dude...this end game was pending for long time from USA....Reason is obvious..

    1- US need to control China and any power that seem to be rising out of Asia.
    2- USA is not exactly a natural partner for India as Russia or could be China...Reason is if you see the trend Russia never intervened or try to control India policy that is why India and Russia relation has been going well as of now. But in case of US and India relationship, US always try to take a control of its allies and friends...Then India will not be fit into the bill in the long run...
    3- Pakistan was trusted partner for US to continue its dirty game. Now the time has changed...Pakistan will not do anything dirty against China and even India too...I believe slowly both India and Pakistan will realize that its better to talk with each other rather involving US.

    4- BD does not have any strategic benefit in wider scheme of things due its location. But it has another advantage of being a Muslim nation that identifies itself based on its ethnicity and language than being a Muslim...This is really significant to the liberal fascist in US.
    So they might be lobbying to court BD in place of Pakistan. This will help US to reign in Myanmar, India and to some extent South Eact Asia....

    5- BD policy is more towards its insecurity towards India..BD knows that China's policy is very specific about not to get involved in any other country's issues...So definitely in case of any conflict China will not provide any blanket shield against India which USA can provide.

    Possible challenge for BD:

    I am not sure if BD is aware about its not ...But if you allign with US the danger is not about what USA will do....Rather than that the political oppertunism played out by your own politician will do a lot of bad for your nation....

    You seems to contradict your own statement....USA target to BD not for India...rather to control China, its proxy Myanmarr and to India if India goes out of the way US wants....

    And if USA can control China from BD territory then its China that should be worries more rather than India...And in this situation if you think that China will be a silent spectator then you are in fools paradise....
    I support a kind of US involvement in BD that deters Indian hegemony. But, an outright granting of a military facility will be opposed by the diehard Mullahs. Fanatism may increase and will be used by the US and BD govts as a good reason to station US military in BD soil. It may continue in a cyclic order. This is an issue that should be talked about in a joint discussion forum between BD and US officials.
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    I love it, people on its forum (specially bangladehi friends) keep saying that India control the government. Then Why would India allow such misadventure, why would India allow any military and economic deals with China. I mean come on. You guys freaking blame everything on India. Now US eyeing a base is also something related to India.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndoUS View Post
    I love it, people on its forum (specially bangladehi friends) keep saying that India control the government. Then Why would India allow such misadventure, why would India allow any military and economic deals with China. I mean come on. You guys freaking blame everything on India. Now US eyeing a base is also something related to India.
    You see this the beauty of PDF....anyone can change their stance anytime....
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    A reason why US wants to have their base in bangladesh . in the blue line it says the river through which even the Chinese sub can come to bay of bangle
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    happy marriage to both soon we will see honeymoon .
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    If USA builds a Naval Base in Bangladesh, I am sure China will want to build a Naval Base in Pakistan and India will be caught in the middle.

    South Asia hasn't been this interesting since 1971.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercenary View Post
    If USA builds a Naval Base in Bangladesh, I am sure China will want to build a Naval Base in Pakistan and India will be caught in the middle.

    South Asia hasn't been this interesting since 1971.

    oh no man we don't damn ready for give base to china or even angels .we tasted already this mess ?
    it was one of happiest day when we throw out US from shamsi. no base to china .


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    Indian media:


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    The fun has just started now....
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