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    Bangladesh would have been better under West Pakistan's nuclear umbrella-
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    Quote Originally Posted by MBI Munshi View Post
    At least RAW now admits it was involved in East Pakistan before 1971 ....... but what is the implications of this for Bangladeshis?
    Every country has spy networks of external countries, we also have CIA network in our country it is no surprise or different thing happened to BD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monitor View Post
    We fought sacrifice our life in 1971 because we were made to think Pakistan is the mother of all problem for Bangalees in Pakistan . it was probably made by the RAW agent in east Pakistan (Bangladesh ). so ultimately it was the success of RAW .they made us believe all their propaganda/allegation on West Pakistan . the end result we fought a decisive battle against the Pakistan army and achieved our independence as we were made thought this is the sole path of getting rid of any oppression .
    It is always very conspicuous to me that the AL leaders never speak anything against India, rather remain as their stooges, even if anything goes against the interest of BD, but these same AL leaders were hyperactive against the so-called inequity, injustice and partiality by W.PK against E.PK/Bangalees. It's because that they have illicit relation with India since long time.

    We should glean more and examine these unfamiliar matters comprehensively that happened before 1971 but omitted intentionally in our BTV/BAL/India type fabricated history. We should address Agartala Conspiracy, RAW's donation and involvement before 70's election and pre-71 propagandas what incited E.Pakistanis/Bangalees purposefully.

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    1971 was the greatest disaster in the muslim world. BAL under RAW's payroll exaggerated so called injustices by W.PAK. They were hyper in propagating injustices by w.pak while the problems the then PAK faced were synonyms with all developing countries. India just looked after her national interest and wanted to weaken muslims. There is a lot to learn from this debacle for the whole muslims world specially for diverse countries like Indonesia and offcourse PAK. Turkey should also make sure zionists can't take advantage of kurdish grievances. BD should also learn from this debacle and make sure traitors like BAL are not allowed in this country. Every thing happens by Allah(swt) will and 71 debacle was no exception. It was either a test or a punishment by Allah(swt) on the muslims of subcontinent who allowed themselves to be ruled by incompetent thugs.
    Last edited by Luffy 500; 07-04-2012 at 07:51 PM.
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    no

    1971 was the Pakistani policy blunder which resulted in 10 million BDs seeking refuge in India which forced India to intervene in pak's internal matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Widow View Post
    Blog, Article and personal view of someone can not be considered as authentic admission.


    BD war of Independence was Fought by Bangla brothers, They spill there blood for freedom (from oppression, tyranny and rape). BD Tigers fought for self respect and they got it. Today BD is better than Pakistan (oppressor), BD birth rate has gone down, World see BD with positive look, No where in world BD are insulted coz of there nationality...


    Role of India: Very little, almost negligible. Infact India saved Pakistani soldiers, If India wouldn't have protected Pakistanis, BD lions would have killed all 90,000 Pakistanis. Pakistani must pay gratitude to us.
    This was on BBC:
    BBC News - Meeting India's angry spy Surjeet Singh

    This is him:


    As far as 'glorifying' them in movies, know that the best spy/assassin is one who doesn't leave a trace such that no one knows they even existed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skies View Post
    It is always very conspicuous to me that the AL leaders never speak anything against India, rather remain as their stooges, even if anything goes against the interest of BD, but these same AL leaders were hyperactive against the so-called inequity, injustice and partiality by W.PK against E.PK/Bangalees. It's because that they have illicit relation with India since long time.

    We should glean more and examine these unfamiliar matters comprehensively that happened before 1971 but omitted intentionally in our BTV/BAL/India type fabricated history. We should address Agartala Conspiracy, RAW's donation and involvement before 70's election and pre-71 propagandas what incited E.Pakistanis/Bangalees purposefully.
    The Agartala conspiracy has already been publicly stated as true. Seeing from how the AL is......it is in a very sorry state.

    As they say, truth ultimately speaks for itself. And the AL is deliberately misusing history for its own benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luffy 500 View Post
    1971 was the greatest disaster in the muslim world. BAL under RAW's payroll exaggerated so called injustices by W.PAK. They were hyper in propagating injustices by w.pak while the problems the then PAK faced were synonyms with all developing countries. India just looked after her national interest and wanted to weaken muslims. There is a lot to learn from this debacle for the whole muslims world specially for diverse countries like Indonesia and offcourse PAK. Turkey should also make sure zionists can't take advantage of kurdish grievances. BD should also learn from this debacle and make sure traitors like BAL are not allowed in this country. Every thing happens by Allah(swt) will and 71 debacle was no exception. It was either a test or a punishment by Allah(swt) on the muslims of subcontinent who allowed themselves to be ruled by incompetent thugs.
    Muslim refugees were burdening us , so we cut you in to half . Happy now ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IND151 View Post
    no

    1971 was the Pakistani policy blunder which resulted in 10 million BDs seeking refuge in India which forced India to intervene in pak's internal matter
    As if BD and pakistani will believe u...
    They are in their own delusional world bro... We should let some fools think what they wish , cos still now they cany digest the fact, that hindus "helped" them to attained independence.... Some egoistic people can never be satisfied....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvsram1992 View Post
    Muslim refugees were burdening us , so we cut you in to half . Happy now ?
    The key mistake the Pakistanis did was that they used excessive force against the rioting Bengalis in several instances. Bengalis are by nature an emotional people and grievances can spread like wildfire with little or no rational. So it is not recommended.

    And today's political parties (even though rotten to the core) make sure they don't make that mistake. What do you think is up with all these forced disappearances of some key people Bangladesh? Isn't it obvious?
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    ofcourse RAW was involved mainly in supplying arms to the mukti bahini.......to blame everyting on raw and ingore the fact that w.pak was treating east pak as a colony shows how well the ISI propoganda has clouded bangladeshi mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDAYCAMPUS View Post
    ofcourse RAW was involved mainly in supplying arms to the mukti bahini.......to blame everyting on raw and ingore the fact that w.pak was treating east pak as a colony shows how well the ISI propoganda has clouded bangladeshi mind
    Compared to RAW the ISI are amateurs when it comes to propaganda. It is the truth that will eventually defeat RAW not counter-propaganda. In this case the truth was unwittingly revealed by RAW itself through a former high official.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MBI Munshi View Post
    Compared to RAW the ISI are amateurs when it comes to propaganda. It is the truth that will eventually defeat RAW not counter-propaganda. In this case the truth was unwittingly revealed by RAW itself through a former high official.
    like i said the former RAW said that we will find their fingerprints in every Indian success......meaning to say that they were just a contributing factor..

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    Quote Originally Posted by UDAYCAMPUS View Post
    like i said the former RAW said that we will find their fingerprints in every Indian success......meaning to say that they were just a contributing factor..
    What he means by fingerprints is that the RAW hand is not overt or open but hidden but is nevertheless the defining element in India's successes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MBI Munshi View Post
    What he means by fingerprints is that the RAW hand is not overt or open but hidden but is nevertheless the defining element in India's successes.
    why not just ask him about what he means by fingerprints ...... nyways i'll say it's human nature to chest thump a bit ...

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    @ Bangladeshis : Dude as much as I appreciate what you guys are saying here, where are you guys in real life ? The only Bangladeshis that I've heard on the Television or met (2 to be exact) or had conversations with over the internet (apart from PDF !), they went 'Apology, ApOlOgY, APOLOGY !', as if, in '71, I was prowling the streets of Dhaka or elsewhere in BD with a machete in one hand and a Pakistani flag in the other !

    Secondly, I don't buy the whole - 3 million figure and hundreds of thousands of raped ! I know that our army can be decadent, corrupt and incompetent but two things they aren't are 'Rapists' and 'Butchers', I've had the pleasure of meeting many Jawans and knowing a few Officers ! Even in Balochistan, the so-called atrocities, are committed by the FC which comes under the Provincial Government and has an element of 'ethnic conflict to it'. Having said that some of your grievances were very genuine; there was grave economic disparity between the two wings, extra efforts should have been made to bring the Bengalis in line with the rest of Pakistan by offsetting whatever advantage those of us who could understand Urdu (mainly the Punjab and the Urdu-Speaking community) enjoyed and you should have been made to understand lovingly as to 'why Jinnah wanted Urdu and not another language' as the 'National Language of Pakistan' and not through the iron-hand that the Government practised in the 50s !

    Thirdly, I don't want a reunification of Pakistan and Bangladesh and I'm sure neither do you ! Jinnah, as much as I love him, was wrong ! He was wrong in assuming that we - Muslims of the Indian Subcontinent - are capable to transcend these utterly 'mundane' differences of 'caste, colour, ethnicity and language' because if we were, irrespective of whether there was Bhutto on this side or Mujib on that side, we - the People, wouldn't have turned on each other the way we did !

    Pakistan Zindabad, Bangladeshi Zindabad and Bharat Zindabad !
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