Indian BSF murdering Bangladeshi civilians

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BSF should not kill Bangladeshies. They should rather welcome the illigal migrants with red carpet..

You all Indians are great actors. You truly are motivated by your dirty bollywood media. Illegal immigrants are still human beings. Lock them up in the cell or sentence them to corporal punishment. You do not kill non-militant human being.

[pinktablet]

I have spoken to a friend of my who is a freelance journalist and has written for NYT, WP, Daily mail (UK), Guardian (UK) and he has visited many places all over the world including the INDO-PAK, Indo-BD Borders. He told me that the situation on the Indo-BD is no different to that on US-Mexico border wherein it is an offence to cross the border illegally full stop. And many crossing the border do so through intermediaries ("koyoties") who are brutal and mostly heavily armed so Border forces (BSF/BP) have to assume they are armed and take proportional action for their safety and safety of their nation. He told me BSF adheres to strict guidelines and warning shots are fired, audio and visual alarms are played and live fire is a last resort-aiming to maim not kill.


It is the people crossing who are in the wrong- full stop, you can't blame a young guard on duty, often isolated who is confronted by people in the dark and has no idea if they are armed or what, they could be terrorists (there has been numerous intel inputs that ISI-backed terrorists may try to come in through BD/Nepal). These guys are protecting their nation, whatever makes BD try to cross illegally is the real problem that is being overshadowed, I suspect purposefully, by these unfortunate events. These are the symptoms not the causes.

Just my 2 cents.

Seems like your friend is a cheap Indian. Please tell me one thing: Was the girl named feloni a smuggler? Why was she killed?

[Facebooks]

You all Indians are great actors. You truly are motivated by your dirty bollywood media. Illegal immigrants are still human beings. Lock them up in the cell or sentence them to corporal punishment. You do not kill non-militant human being.

Bollywood Rules Bangladesh.

The Cultural Hegemony of Bollywood in Bangladesh

The Cultural Hegemony of Bollywood in Bangladesh: Bangladesh Cinema at Stake

Ever heard of Nellie Massacre?

Nellie massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

We should do that to the Illegal Islamic Terrorists!

[asad71]

BSF should not kill Bangladeshies. They should rather welcome the illigal migrants (??) with red carpet..

Muslims of Assam
By Md. Khurshid Ahmed,

The historical backgrounds firmly prove the arrival of the Ahoms and Muslims as invaders in the first half of the thirteenth century CE. Muslims from the west started entering Assam in 1206 few years before the invasion of the Ahoms into the state in 1226. The only difference between the two is that the Ahoms could lay down permanent empire but Muslims failed to establish their rule prosperously. Muslims yet, could conquer some portions in Assam and administrated them temporally. Since that period Muslims began to settle over the region.

Muhammad Bine Bukhtiyar Khalji was the first Muslim's invader who attacked Kamrup (Assam) in 1206 in the hope to conquer China through Assam. But he could not succeed his plan and was defeated. In his second attempt in 1227 A.D. along with Ewaz Khan as commander in chief could reach Nawgaon district of Assam. In the same year Naseeruddin invaded Kamrup and defeated the king Prethu. This historical point of view vividly reveals the capability of Muslims in the establishment of their rule over the some parts of the state namely in Hojo. They settled willingly in the state while others remained as captives who latter on got mixed with local Assames and leaving their native tongue and culture, they adopted Assames culture and civilization as their own and married Assumes girls and settled down.

There is undoubted reality that due to the propagation of Islam by different saints, preachers and peers, a number of lower castes, Hindus and tribes came under the fold of Islam that resulted in increase of the Muslims' populations during the medieval age in India. The last war between Ahoms and Mughals took place in 1682 wherein Mughal was defeated in Itakhuli (nearby Guwahati). That ended Mughal will to regain eastern parts of Assam. To sum up Muslims entered into Assam as conquerors, administrators, preachers and invitees of local kings.

The Ahoms entered Assam from the Eastern boundary in 1228 A.D. they ruled over the soil for more than 600 years. Due to their internal squabbles, the last quarter of the nineteenth century witnessed the collapse of powerful rule of Ahoms in Assam. It was the Assamese general Budanbar Phukan who invited Burmese invaders to support him in the war against the alien prime minister of a minor king. The Assam king's request to British, who was ruling in the neighboring Dacca in order to exile the Burmese, paved the way of British's entrance and establishment of their ruling power in the state. In 1826 the consequent Treaty of Yandabo for the expulsion of Burmese saw the seeds of British rule over the soil of Assam firmly.

In the latter part of nineteenth century and beginning of the twentieth century, the first chapter of the migration came into being only after the British government started an initiative step to bring well-read Bengali Hindus to different posts, poor laborers for tea cultivation and Bengali Muslims for jute cultivation in Assam. A declining number of them migrated from Bihar, Madhya Pradesh and Orissa.

With the heavy influx of migration from different corner of the country especially Bengal district a drastic change appeared in the demographic structures, the agricultural scenario of Assam and in various works of administration, railway, post office, law, teaching and primary medicine. The British government allowed rather encouraged them settling permanently in Assam.

The settlement and establishment of Muslims in Assam was not on solid grounds. From the very beginning, Mughal soldiers who remained as captives in Assam, and later settled here permanently were economically weak. Low-caste Hindus and tribals who embraced Islam were also poor and backward in every respect. Muslims who migrated from East Bengal to Assam were mainly poor cultivators. Most of them settled at pasture-land, wasteland and areas where they have been affected by floods every year. They build and rebuild after every flood. Therefore, in this term, Muslims were economically weak from the very beginning of their settlement.

Illiteracy among Muslims is high. Large number of Muslims, who migrated from East Bengal were cultivators and daily labourers. They did not feel the need of education. They were busy in earning their livelihood. They remained satisfied if their children earn some money. Even smaller children do hard manual labour. No project was taken up during the British period of Assam for removal of illiteracy. After the independence the conditions of Muslims have changed to a great extent, but not satisfactory compared to other communities.



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From 'Muslims in North East India: Problems & Prospects' a research publication of Markazul Ma'arif Education & Research Centre (MMERC), Mumbai. [www.markuzulmaarif.org]

[TalkToMe:D]

Muslims of Assam
By Md. Khurshid Ahmed,

The historical backgrounds firmly prove the arrival of the Ahoms and Muslims as invaders in the first half of the thirteenth century CE. Muslims from the west started entering Assam in 1206 few years before the invasion of the Ahoms into the state in 1226. The only difference between the two is that the Ahoms could lay down permanent empire but Muslims failed to establish their rule prosperously. Muslims yet, could conquer some portions in Assam and administrated them temporally. Since that period Muslims began to settle over the region.

Muhammad Bine Bukhtiyar Khalji was the first Muslim's invader who attacked Kamrup (Assam) in 1206 in the hope to conquer China through Assam. But he could not succeed his plan and was defeated. In his second attempt in 1227 A.D. along with Ewaz Khan as commander in chief could reach Nawgaon district of Assam. In the same year Naseeruddin invaded Kamrup and defeated the king Prethu. This historical point of view vividly reveals the capability of Muslims in the establishment of their rule over the some parts of the state namely in Hojo. They settled willingly in the state while others remained as captives who latter on got mixed with local Assames and leaving their native tongue and culture, they adopted Assames culture and civilization as their own and married Assumes girls and settled down.

There is undoubted reality that due to the propagation of Islam by different saints, preachers and peers, a number of lower castes, Hindus and tribes came under the fold of Islam that resulted in increase of the Muslims' populations during the medieval age in India. The last war between Ahoms and Mughals took place in 1682 wherein Mughal was defeated in Itakhuli (nearby Guwahati). That ended Mughal will to regain eastern parts of Assam. To sum up Muslims entered into Assam as conquerors, administrators, preachers and invitees of local kings.

The Ahoms entered Assam from the Eastern boundary in 1228 A.D. they ruled over the soil for more than 600 years. Due to their internal squabbles, the last quarter of the nineteenth century witnessed the collapse of powerful rule of Ahoms in Assam. It was the Assamese general Budanbar Phukan who invited Burmese invaders to support him in the war against the alien prime minister of a minor king. The Assam king's request to British, who was ruling in the neighboring Dacca in order to exile the Burmese, paved the way of British's entrance and establishment of their ruling power in the state. In 1826 the consequent Treaty of Yandabo for the expulsion of Burmese saw the seeds of British rule over the soil of Assam firmly.

In the latter part of nineteenth century and beginning of the twentieth century, the first chapter of the migration came into being only after the British government started an initiative step to bring well-read Bengali Hindus to different posts, poor laborers for tea cultivation and Bengali Muslims for jute cultivation in Assam. A declining number of them migrated from Bihar, Madhya Pradesh and Orissa.

With the heavy influx of migration from different corner of the country especially Bengal district a drastic change appeared in the demographic structures, the agricultural scenario of Assam and in various works of administration, railway, post office, law, teaching and primary medicine. The British government allowed rather encouraged them settling permanently in Assam.

The settlement and establishment of Muslims in Assam was not on solid grounds. From the very beginning, Mughal soldiers who remained as captives in Assam, and later settled here permanently were economically weak. Low-caste Hindus and tribals who embraced Islam were also poor and backward in every respect. Muslims who migrated from East Bengal to Assam were mainly poor cultivators. Most of them settled at pasture-land, wasteland and areas where they have been affected by floods every year. They build and rebuild after every flood. Therefore, in this term, Muslims were economically weak from the very beginning of their settlement.

Illiteracy among Muslims is high. Large number of Muslims, who migrated from East Bengal were cultivators and daily labourers. They did not feel the need of education. They were busy in earning their livelihood. They remained satisfied if their children earn some money. Even smaller children do hard manual labour. No project was taken up during the British period of Assam for removal of illiteracy. After the independence the conditions of Muslims have changed to a great extent, but not satisfactory compared to other communities.



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From 'Muslims in North East India: Problems & Prospects' a research publication of Markazul Ma'arif Education & Research Centre (MMERC), Mumbai. [www.markuzulmaarif.org]

Sorry if I missed something as it was a long post but afaik Muslim religion originated in Assam long back before Mughals existed in India and you are not wrong their my knowledge upon it is in the 16th or 17th century with the advent of Ajan Fakir, well the actual point is that they are well mixed with Assamese culture and language and are called indigenous Muslims. The beloved Ajanpir Dargah is being visited by both Muslims and non Muslims equally. Regarding Mughals they never succeed in invading Assam, Battle of Saraighat.

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Bollywood Rules Bangladesh.

not anymore my friend. Young generation of Bangladesh is aware of its venomous consequence. I feel pity for normal Indian citizen being heavily motivated by the dirty bollywood . Go check the crime statistics of your country! Stop bollywood today, I assure you will have golden India tomorrow period. Thats my free advice to you

[yasinbin]

what ever illegal crossings Indian dude and international laws , you are just lucky that we have shitty politicians in our country or else we could have returned with same attitude and kindness with bullets to Indians, these same BS in the border, that we have been getting- as now they order BGB to sit duck now i guess. illegal cross border happens both ways, it's not a one way thing. BGB hands them over to police. Not shoots them first and talks later. Dude everything has a limit, try not to cross that.

[Omar1984]

The Price for Torture: Three Months, Demotion

Quietly late last month, a Border Security Force court sentenced seven constables to 89 days in jail each for their part in the torture of a Bangladeshi man that was caught on video in January.

Human rights groups have labeled the punishment insufficient and it is bound to again spark debate about the failure of India’s military courts to dispense justice.


The court decided the men’s commander, a chief constable, was involved in the incident but did not sentence him to any detention, instead reducing his rank from chief constable to constable and withholding two pay raises, said Vikas Chandra, a BSF spokesman.

“It’s a very big punishment,” Mr. Chandra said.

Human rights groups did not agree. “The system they’re maintaining is institutionalizing impunity,” said Kirity Roy, secretary of MASUM, an Indian rights advocacy group that obtained the video and publicized it.

The 11-minute video, taken on a cell phone, allegedly by the perpetrators, gave a rare window into abuses that human rights groups say are commonplace on the porous border between India’s West Bengal state and Bangladesh, across which scores of illegal Bangladeshi immigrants and cattle rustlers pass each day.

It shows the constables stripping a Bangladeshi man naked, trussing him to a stick and beating him repeatedly while he pleads for mercy. The video caused barely a ripple in India’s media or among politicians when it emerged in January, a fact which human rights groups say shows how desensitized India has become to cases of abuse by the BSF on the border.

The court-martial verdict has not been reported in the Indian media.

In Bangladesh, the video caused an outcry and created a headache for Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who has been working hard to improve relations with Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina’s government. It’s also an embarrassment for Mr. Singh who in 2007 stated a “zero tolerance” policy for human rights abuses.

“The unfortunate incident at India-Bangladesh border was investigated by the Border Security Force within their jurisdiction. The Ministry of External Affairs had regretted the incident and asked the BSF to conduct an enquiry which held a court martial. The Prime Minister’s Office did not play any role in this affair,” the office said in a statement Monday.

Activists who follow these events say scores of other abuses, including shooting incidents involving BSF constables, have gone unpunished in recent years.

India says it’s making progress in reducing the killings. Indian Home Minister P. Chidambaram said last month after a meeting in New Delhi with his Bangladeshi counterpart, Sahara Khatun, there had been a “dramatic decline” in shootings.

Mr. Chidambaram acknowledged, however, there were still three incidents on the border in the past eight months, leading to the deaths of four people. He said the deaths were unavoidable after BSF personnel came under attack by Bangladeshis. India and Bangladesh are planning joint patrols in sensitive parts of the frontier to attempt to further quell violence.

The latest video also focuses attention on India’s military court system, which even India’s Supreme Court has criticized for failing to take sufficient action against officers accused of rights abuses.

In January, the Supreme Court chided the army for blocking criminal proceedings against five soldiers accused of murdering five men in Kashmir, while failing to mount an internal trial of the men.

Rights groups say India should try more of these cases through the criminal court system rather than opaque army courts. In Kashmir, Chief Minister Omar Abdullah has been pushing – so far without success – for the partial withdrawal of laws that shield armed forces in the state from prosecution through the normal court system.

Human Rights Watch, the New York-based advocacy, urged the government in January to prosecute the men involved in the latest video, saying it was a test case of whether the BSF is above the law.

But the armed forces has pushed back against allowing its men to be tried through normal courts.



The Price for Torture: Three Months, Demotion - India Real Time - WSJ

[ashokdeiva]

The Price for Torture: Three Months, Demotion

Quietly late last month, a Border Security Force court sentenced seven constables to 89 days in jail each for their part in the torture of a Bangladeshi man that was caught on video in January.

Human rights groups have labeled the punishment insufficient and it is bound to again spark debate about the failure of India’s military courts to dispense justice.


The court decided the men’s commander, a chief constable, was involved in the incident but did not sentence him to any detention, instead reducing his rank from chief constable to constable and withholding two pay raises, said Vikas Chandra, a BSF spokesman.

“It’s a very big punishment,” Mr. Chandra said.

Human rights groups did not agree. “The system they’re maintaining is institutionalizing impunity,” said Kirity Roy, secretary of MASUM, an Indian rights advocacy group that obtained the video and publicized it.

The 11-minute video, taken on a cell phone, allegedly by the perpetrators, gave a rare window into abuses that human rights groups say are commonplace on the porous border between India’s West Bengal state and Bangladesh, across which scores of illegal Bangladeshi immigrants and cattle rustlers pass each day.

It shows the constables stripping a Bangladeshi man naked, trussing him to a stick and beating him repeatedly while he pleads for mercy. The video caused barely a ripple in India’s media or among politicians when it emerged in January, a fact which human rights groups say shows how desensitized India has become to cases of abuse by the BSF on the border.

The court-martial verdict has not been reported in the Indian media.

In Bangladesh, the video caused an outcry and created a headache for Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who has been working hard to improve relations with Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina’s government. It’s also an embarrassment for Mr. Singh who in 2007 stated a “zero tolerance” policy for human rights abuses.

“The unfortunate incident at India-Bangladesh border was investigated by the Border Security Force within their jurisdiction. The Ministry of External Affairs had regretted the incident and asked the BSF to conduct an enquiry which held a court martial. The Prime Minister’s Office did not play any role in this affair,” the office said in a statement Monday.

Activists who follow these events say scores of other abuses, including shooting incidents involving BSF constables, have gone unpunished in recent years.

India says it’s making progress in reducing the killings. Indian Home Minister P. Chidambaram said last month after a meeting in New Delhi with his Bangladeshi counterpart, Sahara Khatun, there had been a “dramatic decline” in shootings.

Mr. Chidambaram acknowledged, however, there were still three incidents on the border in the past eight months, leading to the deaths of four people. He said the deaths were unavoidable after BSF personnel came under attack by Bangladeshis. India and Bangladesh are planning joint patrols in sensitive parts of the frontier to attempt to further quell violence.

The latest video also focuses attention on India’s military court system, which even India’s Supreme Court has criticized for failing to take sufficient action against officers accused of rights abuses.

In January, the Supreme Court chided the army for blocking criminal proceedings against five soldiers accused of murdering five men in Kashmir, while failing to mount an internal trial of the men.

Rights groups say India should try more of these cases through the criminal court system rather than opaque army courts. In Kashmir, Chief Minister Omar Abdullah has been pushing – so far without success – for the partial withdrawal of laws that shield armed forces in the state from prosecution through the normal court system.

Human Rights Watch, the New York-based advocacy, urged the government in January to prosecute the men involved in the latest video, saying it was a test case of whether the BSF is above the law.

But the armed forces has pushed back against allowing its men to be tried through normal courts.



The Price for Torture: Three Months, Demotion - India Real Time - WSJ

what do the Human rights want to do, do the want the men to be hanged, The same Human Rights a few days ago wanted the Chennai Police personal to be booked under IPC 302 for performing an encounter which killed 5 decoites.
I say the Human Rights is now becoming a safe heaven and mouth piece of people who do crime.
The punishment of 3 month Jail, and demotion, pay cut is more than suficient for physical abuse.

[Mattrixx]

All these killings are for money. This BSF is so corrupted if they get money they can do all kinds bad works. They help the smugglers & human trafficker of both the countries. But when they don't get what they want they start killing & torturing.

[Syed Naved]

Yesterday newly appointed Bangladeshi FM minister claimed that her appointment was sign of "din bodol" or "Change". Lets see what she has to say about Bangladeshis killed by BSF. But after seeing her website and peoole from south block she is close to, people in Bangladesh can expect "change" only for worse.....


:: Dr. Dipu Moni::

Pagole kina bole chagole kina khai was a famous bangladesi probad,dipu er kormo dekhe mone koi eita, " Dipu te kina koi,Sagole kina khai " hole better hoi

[Ammyy]

All these killings are for money. This BSF is so corrupted if they get money they can do all kinds bad works. They help the smugglers & human trafficker of both the countries. But when they don't get what they want they start killing & torturing.

So what else your BGB (border gaurds) doing at border ???? All are corrupt but your BGB is traitor also who allowed illegal trade and allowing people to cross border even with risk of life

[Banana]

Border Security Force (BSF) shot dead a Bangladeshi cattle trader on Thursday night in Thakurgaon.

The victim was identified as Md Faruque, 22, son of Md Alabul of Choroigati village under Baliadangi upazila of the district.

Police and local sources said the BSF personnel of Borabula Camp opened fire on Faruque and his fellow Lablu, 24, near Beurjhari border in the upazila when they were returning home from India around 7:30pm wounding Faruque seriously. Lablu luckily escaped.

Local people rushed Faruque to Baliadangi Upazila Health Complex where he died at 9:05pm.

The Commanding Officer of 30 Border Guard Bangladesh (BGB) Battalion, Touhidul Islam, confirmed the incident and said BGB strongly protested the incident.

A company commander-level flag meeting was held yesterday in this regard.

BSF Director General UK Bansal on Thursday said the frontier force was exercising restraint even at a greater risk to the lives of its members in dealing with cattle smugglers on Indo-Bangladesh border.

"That's why the number of persons killed in firing in the last five months this year has come down to mere seven," Indian daily newspaper The Hindu quoted Bansal as saying, reacting to allegations by Human Rights Watch, an international NGO, that the BSF personnel were indulging in extra-judicial killing, torture and human rights violation.

http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesig...php?nid=238523

[hinduguy]

7:30 PM is not night. Why cant they catch these guys and hand over to bangladesh.

[LaBong]

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Bangladesh needs to make sure their citizens don't cross international border at whim, when there is obvious danger to their life doing that. BGB should be disbanded and handed over to a kore competent force. Not sure what BGB do actually.