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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby View Post
    By 2020 China will put a claim on entire ASIA and By 2050 they will claim entire world and by 2060 there will be no China ....
    Oh but before that we will make sure there will be no backward india first which can easily be done by china
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajaraja Chola View Post
    guy leave gods alone from ur stupidity....
    you guys started it moron

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby View Post
    By 2020 China will put a claim on entire ASIA and By 2050 they will claim entire world and by 2060 there will be no China ....
    leave that fantasy to indians We only claim the territories that belong to us!

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    Post reported
    something wrong with the Mod? the report button is not there!

    Quote Originally Posted by Audio View Post
    You are the clown buddy.

    It is you who can't debate with facts and sticks only to blind nationalism/patriotism. You know...facts, like the UNCLOS agreement that China signed. And similar....
    you dont have a clue on UNCLOS and the soverignty of a nation clown!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shuttler View Post
    you dont have a clue on UNCLOS and the soverignty of a nation clown!
    So what are the fish around Scarborough shoal called? The Chinese? Didnt know CCP gives citizenship to non humans.

    On a more serious note : you claim sovereignty with a piece of paper that describes how your ancestors went to fish there 2000 years (?) ago.

    And just for the lulz. Why dont you educate me about UNCLOS. I'd love to see how you will attempt to bypass some of its articles and regulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChinaToday View Post
    Oh but before that we will make sure there will be no backward india first which can easily be done by china
    Really enjoying your morning dream

    Quote Originally Posted by shuttler View Post
    you guys started it moron



    leave that fantasy to indians We only claim the territories that belong to us!



    something wrong with the Mod? the report button is not there!



    you dont have a clue on UNCLOS and the soverignty of a nation clown!
    This thread is nothing but China's fantasy....
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    Quote Originally Posted by shuttler View Post
    You are exactly right. Mongolians are part of us. Those who live outside of Inner Mongolia are foreigners so they never bother to claim anything in SCS! Oh you confess the SCS area is ours, excellent! So chill out of the area and shut up!
    You are idiot guy, uneducated or liar ! Mongolia is independence state and member of UN now. Mongolian ruled China in time of Yuan, China didn't existed by the time.
    China and Mongolia are two state.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gpit View Post
    Vietnam was once legally occupied by China. No?



    Vietnam was once legally occupied by China. No?




    Vietnam was part of China for centuries. Did you peacefully expel China? Is your occupation of Vietnam continuous? Please don’t forget you became a province of Ming Dynasty of China. In reality you were a part of China historically, Right?

    If you lack the history, here is the brief that Vietnam was originally built by a Chinese called Zhao Tuo:
    Vietnam has been wiped out all the agressors, chinese was the first. Ha ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpit View Post
    Vietnam was once legally occupied by China. No?



    Vietnam was once legally occupied by China. No?




    Vietnam was part of China for centuries. Did you peacefully expel China? Is your occupation of Vietnam continuous? Please don’t forget you became a province of Ming Dynasty of China. In reality you were a part of China historically, Right?

    If you lack the history, here is the brief that Vietnam was originally built by a Chinese called Zhao Tuo:
    A silly logic!

    In 207BC, Zhao Tuo occupied Bách Việt (BaiYue) and invaded Âu Lạc (Vietnam)
    In 111BC, China used force to invade Vietnam . Remember that before 207BC, Vietnam is an independent country reign of Hồng Bàng, An Dương Vương and Hùng Kings... In summary, at that time Vietnam is a sovereign country. Do you understand?
    In 938, Ngo Quyen defeated chinese by the Great Victory at the Battle of Bạch Đằng River 938, the end of China's dominance.
    Thus, Vietnam expelled the invaders, who had to use force to invade our country. What was wrong here?

    History of Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...ng_River_(938)

    Refer more:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_...BA%B1ng_(1288)

    BTW: Update your understanding:
    Occupy peacefully: You were the first to go there and manage it. You did not use any force to capture it from others.
    Occupy continuously: You've managed it a certain time ago and continued until now. In case you managed it, but then you gave up it, don't be called "continuously".
    Occupy In reality: Of course, you must have management actions ​​in practice, not in your imagination. You have executed enforcement of sovereignty, for example build milestone, flagpole, occupied...
    Last edited by Battle of Bach Dang River; 05-04-2012 at 08:34 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastSea View Post
    You are idiot guy, uneducated or liar ! Mongolia is independence state and member of UN now. Mongolian ruled China in time of Yuan, China didn't existed by the time.
    China and Mongolia are two state.



    "After the collapse of the Yuan Dynasty, the Mongols returned to their earlier pattern of constant internal conflict and occasional raids on the Chinese borderlands. In the 16th and 17th centuries, Mongolia came under the influence of Tibetan Buddhism. At the end of the 17th century, all of Mongolia had been incorporated into the area ruled by the Qing Dynasty. During the collapse of the Qing Dynasty in 1911, Mongolia declared independence, but had to struggle until 1921 to firmly establish de facto independence from the Republic of China, and until 1945 to gain international recognition."

    and the map from you is only to show where Mongol peoples live. it not the country map of mongolia today.


    Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region is part of china.
    Inner Mongolia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    and if you compare Inner mongolia with mongolia.
    chinese inner mongolia :GDP (2011) US$ 218.75 billion Per capita US$ 8,854
    Mongolia: GDP (PPP) - Total $13.264 billion - Per capita $4,743[6]
    GDP (nominal) - Total $8.506 billion[6] - Per capita $3,042[6]

    mongolia is far behind chinese inner mongolia.
    It is better that mongolia be part of china again.
    and the mongolias people can live together again.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Mongolia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio View Post
    You are the clown buddy.

    It is you who can't debate with facts and sticks only to blind nationalism/patriotism. You know...facts, like the UNCLOS agreement that China signed. And similar....
    lol``a clueless thing talking about facts, you are just a social welfare bummer, I am in manufacturing business for more than 10 years, I know it very well your stupidity and sheer ignorance regarding this area.. if my business is guided by delusion then I'd be over long time ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpit View Post
    Vietnam ruled by China. Servants such as Vietnam don't have the right to talk the islands.
    China invaded Vietnam more than a thousand years (from 207BC to 938AD).
    With a population of less than dozen times, we could not beat "Human Waves" of China.
    However, we defeated China in 938, regain fully independent for Vietnam.

    We began managing the Paracel Islands and Spratly Islands in the 15th century, when our country was completely written off foreign invaders. So why cannot we talk to the islands?

    Quote Originally Posted by gpit View Post
    This is why so important for neo-fascists to re-write their history.

    What we can perceive in Vietnam is that they wiped off their original history by making them illiterate, and those foolish Vietnamese come with pictures originated from nowhere with Chinese characters that they never understand and then whining around.

    How foolish, laughable and, at the same time, dangerous is that!

    More idiotic farces: the illiterate and imbecilic dunces behave as if they were on right side.
    What the hell are you talking about?
    Isn't It crime invasion of the bastard Chinese?

    The history of Vietnam is one of the longest continuous histories in the world, with the oldest archaeological findings showing that people have been living there as far back as over a half million years ago.[1] Ancient Vietnam was home to some of the world's earliest civilizations, with a cultural history of over 20,000 years - making them one of the world's first peoples who practiced agriculture.[2][3] The Red River valley forms a natural geographic and economic unit, bounded to the north and west by mountains and jungles, to the east by the sea and to the south by the Red River Delta. The needs to have a single authority to prevent floods of the Red River, cooperation in constructing hydraulic systems, trade exchange, and fight against invaders, led to the creation of the first Vietnamese states in 2879 BC.[4] The first truly influential part of history in Vietnam occurred during the Bronze Age, when the Đông Sơn culture was in Vietnam, dramatically advancing their level of civilization. Vietnam's peculiar geography made it a difficult country to attack, which is why Vietnam under Hùng Vương was for so long an independent and self-contained state. The Âns and Qins were among the earliest foreign aggressions of Vietnam, but the ancient Vietnamese regained control of their country soon after their invasions.
    Once Vietnam did succumb to foreign rule, however, it proved unable to escape from it, and for 1,100 years, Vietnam had been successively governed by a series of foreign powers: the Hans, Eastern Hans, Eastern Wus, Cao Wei, Jins, Liu Songs, Southern Qis, Liangs, Suis, Tangs, and Southern Hans; leading to the losses of its writing system, language, and national identity. At certain periods during these 1,100 years, Vietnam was independently governed under the Triệus, Trưng Sisters, Anterior Lýs, Khúcs and Dương Đình Nghệ - although their triumphs and reigns were brief.
    History of Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Quote Originally Posted by rcrmj View Post
    lol``a clueless thing talking about facts, you are just a social welfare bummer, I am in manufacturing business for more than 10 years, I know it very well your stupidity and sheer ignorance regarding this area.. if my business is guided by delusion then I'd be over long time ago
    Remember that now he cannot discuss with you. He is banned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itaskol View Post
    "After the collapse of the Yuan Dynasty, the Mongols returned to their earlier pattern of constant internal conflict and occasional raids on the Chinese borderlands. In the 16th and 17th centuries, Mongolia came under the influence of Tibetan Buddhism. At the end of the 17th century, all of Mongolia had been incorporated into the area ruled by the Qing Dynasty. During the collapse of the Qing Dynasty in 1911, Mongolia declared independence, but had to struggle until 1921 to firmly establish de facto independence from the Republic of China, and until 1945 to gain international recognition."

    and the map from you is only to show where Mongol peoples live. it not the country map of mongolia today.


    Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region is part of china.
    Inner Mongolia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    You admitted soon, Mongolia is independence state like China. One importance thing is that during the period of Yuan Dynatry China was ruled by Mongolia.
    Related to Inner Mongolia, you can look at photos here in following.





    Hundreds of ethnic Mongolians took part in protests.

    BBC News - Second death sentence after Inner Mongolia unrest

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    Quote Originally Posted by EastSea View Post
    You admitted soon, Mongolia is independence state like China. One importance thing is that during the period of Yuan Dynatry China was ruled by Mongolia.
    Related to Inner Mongolia, you can look at photos here in following.





    Hundreds of ethnic Mongolians took part in protests.

    BBC News - Second death sentence after Inner Mongolia unrest
    that proves nothing. Mongolian in China have been deeply assimilated now. hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonyuke_Songpaisan View Post
    that proves nothing. Mongolian in China have been deeply assimilated now. hehe
    You, Han Chinese say that, but Inner Mongolian, Tibetants, Ujgurs don't think so.


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    Let me brief the textbook history, amid all the revisionism hypes,

    China often received tribute from the states under the influence of Confucian civilization and gave them Chinese products and recognition of their authority and sovereignty in return. There were several tribute states to the Chinese-established empires throughout ancient history, including neighboring countries such as Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Cambodia, Borneo, Indonesia, South Asia and Central Asia.[1] This tributary system and relationship are well known as Jimi (羁縻) or Cefeng (册封), or Chaogong (朝貢). In Japanese, the tributary system and relationship is referred to as Shinkou (進貢), Sakuhou (冊封) and Choukou (朝貢).

    According to the Chinese Book of Han, the various tribes of Japan (constituting the nation of Wa) had already entered into tributary relationships with China by the first century.[2] However, Japan ceased to present tribute to China and left the tributary system during the Heian period without damaging economic ties. Although Japan eventually returned to the tributary system during the Muromachi period, it did not recommence presenting tribute.
    more, see

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