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    Quote Originally Posted by Hu Songshan View Post
    Are there any other friendly china leaders like mr schmidt ? Merkel doesn't seem like one.
    The younger generation of politicians have never witnessed the changes of Mao-era China and contemporary China. They grew up with the cold war in mind without really seing the differences. So, go figure. :(
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    The thing to remember about BBC is that it's a government owned broadcaster. This is advantageous in some areas because while corporate media always has an agenda, state-controlled media only has a few key interests. When it comes to news and current events, BBC is a propaganda organ that serves the governments needs. In other areas, it has relatively free reign to be objective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Götterdämmerung View Post
    ...the German moderator ****** who knows nothing about China and through the whole ceremony she was looking at any signs of political messages from the athlets. When the Portuguese team came in holding up their scarfs, she was so excited and hope that some kind of political messages would appear and got so disappointed when all she saw was "I love Beijing". So many people in Germany were unhappy of her moderation because she made the opening ceremony into a political feature.

    The best was, just last year she moderated a talk show and former chancelor Helmut Schmidt was a guest. She knew that Schmidt is a good friend of China and has a very positiv view of china's development. Asking him about China, Schmidt replied that it's not up to us telling a civilisation that is 5000 years old what they should do. She chirped in with: But the human rights in China .... Helmut Schmidt: Stop with your nonsense. She was speechless.
    I find this hard to believe. Do you have any sources for the 2 instances of this German reporter as you describe it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshall View Post
    I find this hard to believe. Do you have any sources for the 2 instances of this German reporter as you describe it?
    It's a 45 min. interview. I will find that passage if I have more time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Götterdämmerung View Post
    It's a 45 min. interview. I will find that passage if I have more time.
    What is the name of the German reporter? I will try to find it if you cannot. I would love to watch those 2 classic moments.

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    Very good poster Gotter is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshall View Post
    What is the name of the German reporter? I will try to find it if you cannot. I would love to watch those 2 classic moments.
    Her name is Sandra Maischberger.

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    Probably the most fair presented by the BBC.

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    we are in a changing period. Painful but also enjoyful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonyuke_Songpaisan View Post
    we are in a changing period. Painful but also enjoyful.
    10 years back ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Götterdämmerung View Post
    It's a 45 min. interview. I will find that passage if I have more time.
    I tried finding the video of the German ZDF broadcast of the 2008 Beijing Olympics with Sandra Maischberger hosting but couldn't find it. However, I did find a lot of comments about her one-sided anti-Chinese demonization. They said that during the entire ceremony, she was using analogies with negative connotations and imagery for virtually everything. Supposedly, there were 2 main instances that stood out among a 3 hour long anti-China diatribe. The 1st was when she said "the Polish athletes are coming out next, get ready for an important message". Needless to say, nothing happened. The 2nd was when she was getting impatient near the end because of the lack of anti-China political messages when the Portuguese athletes came out. As soon as the Portuguese raised those banners you mentioned, she was excited that it would be the long awaited anti-China political message she kept talking about when it turned out to say something like we love Beijing. Epic fail! LOL I wish I had that video for my collection. At the end of the ceremony, Sandra Maischberger said it was a giant propaganda show with no substance and ended the broadcast.

    Concerning the interview with Helmut Schmidt, she does an interview with him almost every year so I don't know which interview you're referring to, but the links I read has her asking him negative loaded questions about China in every interview. Closest thing I found to him saying "stop your nonsense" is when Sandra Maischberger pressed him on what Germany should do where he says "That's the beer". Is that the interview you're talking about or was that a bad translation? What does the term "That's the beer" mean in Germany?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marshall View Post
    I tried finding the video of the German ZDF broadcast of the 2008 Beijing Olympics with Sandra Maischberger hosting but couldn't find it. However, I did find a lot of comments about her one-sided anti-Chinese demonization. They said that during the entire ceremony, she was using analogies with negative connotations and imagery for virtually everything. Supposedly, there were 2 main instances that stood out among a 3 hour long anti-China diatribe. The 1st was when she said "the Polish athletes are coming out next, get ready for an important message". Needless to say, nothing happened. The 2nd was when she was getting impatient near the end because of the lack of anti-China political messages when the Portuguese athletes came out. As soon as the Portuguese raised those banners you mentioned, she was excited that it would be the long awaited anti-China political message she kept talking about when it turned out to say something like we love Beijing. Epic fail! LOL I wish I had that video for my collection. At the end of the ceremony, Sandra Maischberger said it was a giant propaganda show with no substance and ended the broadcast.

    Concerning the interview with Helmut Schmidt, she does an interview with him almost every year so I don't know which interview you're referring to, but the links I read has her asking him negative loaded questions about China in every interview. Closest thing I found to him saying "stop your nonsense" is when Sandra Maischberger pressed him on what Germany should do where he says "That's the beer". Is that the interview you're talking about or was that a bad translation? What does the term "That's the beer" mean in Germany?
    The opening ceremony was broadcasted by ARD, ZDF broadcasted the closing ceremony. These two public channels have been sharing the braodcast of all OG since ages.

    AFAIK, there has been two interviews between H. Schmidt and Maischberger. The one in 2008 was specifically because of the OG and the propaganda battles against China. The second one was a rather general interview shortly after Schmidt's wife Loki died. The contents of the interview was very broad.

    I think he said: Das ist nicht mein Bier (this is not my beer), which means that's non of my business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raphael View Post
    The thing to remember about BBC is that it's a government owned broadcaster. This is advantageous in some areas because while corporate media always has an agenda, state-controlled media only has a few key interests. When it comes to news and current events, BBC is a propaganda organ that serves the governments needs. In other areas, it has relatively free reign to be objective.
    The real thing to remember (not just you I should say) is that while it is a government owned broadcaster, the government itself actually has no say in programme content. The Home Office does not decide "what will the BBC say about this tonight". The BBC Trust and Director general are accountable to parliament, but the government has no direct authority over programme content/messages.
    Board of Governors of the BBC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It's not military related, but there's a fascinating documentary running on the UK's Channel 4 (a private TV group) about China
    China: Triumph and Turmoil - Channel 4
    If the link works, enjoy the bit about the Eight Legged Essay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumstalker View Post
    It's not military related, but there's a fascinating documentary running on the UK's Channel 4 (a private TV group) about China
    China: Triumph and Turmoil - Channel 4
    If the link works, enjoy the bit about the Eight Legged Essay!
    Anybody here knows where we can watch this documentary if you live outside UK? It's not on youtube yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 中国万岁-ProsperThroughCo-op View Post
    Anybody here knows where we can watch this documentary if you live outside UK? It's not on youtube yet.
    LiveLeak.com - Pains of fast change: the urbanization of a small village in west China


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