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    BBC documentary - This World: The Fastest Changing Place on Earth - Changes on a remote Chinese village in 6 years

    This is not directly related to China defence but I think it is a good documentary. Carrie Gracie tracked 3 families from a poor remote village in Sichuan province and record their life changes in 6 years when the farming land was turned into a metropolitan area. It is about hope, frustration, anger, injustice, sacrifice, struggle and happiness for regular China farmers in the ages of China's rapid development. I always feel that regular people like farmers and migration workers are the biggest heroes whose sacrifice have contributed to China's progress and their children's better future. For this I solute them.

    I think people who want to know what's really happening in China should watch this.

    http://player.56.com/v_NjY3NTI0ODg.swf
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    Quote Originally Posted by fly2012 View Post
    BBC documentary - This World: The Fastest Changing Place on Earth - Changes on a remote Chinese village in 6 years

    This is not directly related to China defence but I think it is a good documentary. Carrie Gracie tracked 3 families from a poor remote village in Sichuan province and record their life changes in 6 years when the farming land was turned into a metropolitan area. It is about hope, frustration, anger, injustice, sacrifice, struggle and happiness for regular China farmers in the ages of China's rapid development. I always feel that regular people like farmers and migration workers are the biggest heroes whose sacrifice have contributed to China's progress and their children's better future. For this I solute them.

    I think people who want to know what's really happening in China should watch this.

    http://player.56.com/v_NjY3NTI0ODg.swf
    This is a BBC production, that alone says it all. LOL Without having seen it, I can pretty much guarantee it is a moral tale about big brother pushing modern advancements on an unwilling but resigned ancient way of life. Throw in some sad faces and complaints and make it look like 99% of the Chinese want to remain happy peasants in their isolated medieval villages.

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    Default Re: BBC Documentary - This World: The Fastest Changing Place on Earth

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall View Post
    This is a BBC production, that alone says it all. LOL Without having seen it, I can pretty much guarantee it is a moral tale about big brother pushing modern advancements on an unwilling but resigned ancient way of life. Throw in some sad faces and complaints and make it look like 99% of the Chinese want to remain happy peasants in their isolated medieval villages.
    The BBC has been reduced to a two trick pony lately, all their stories are either about how terrible things are going in China or how an evil father didn't buy makeup for his oppressed daughter in Afghanistan.

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    amazing documentary, this shows the real reality in China's rural development which is the clashing of old tradion with new modern tradition....there always will be conflicts with concession, because good life comes after hard life

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    i suggest every to finish the whole video then to come with your own conclusion
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    Default Re: BBC Documentary - This World: The Fastest Changing Place on Earth

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall View Post
    This is a BBC production, that alone says it all. LOL Without having seen it, I can pretty much guarantee it is a moral tale about big brother pushing modern advancements on an unwilling but resigned ancient way of life. Throw in some sad faces and complaints and make it look like 99% of the Chinese want to remain happy peasants in their isolated medieval villages.
    Actually not this one. Carrie Gracie has lived in China for 30 years and she give a fairly balanced view. Despite all the struggles, it is a happy ending. The documentary is very inspiring in my view. it is translated into Chinese and received very positive reviews in Chinese forums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcrmj View Post

    [/COLOR]i suggest every to finish the whole video then to come with your own conclusion
    In my opinion, this should be a textbook documentary for developing countries, they should learn a few things from China - both experiences and lessons.

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    There still exist some prejudice in this documentary film.
    The English subtitles that BBC translated does not exactly match what the people said in some parts of the film,
    they fabricated it for the reason--“politically correct”
    BTW, I am the translator
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyknight View Post
    BTW, I am the translator
    Now I have to watch it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyknight View Post
    There still exist some prejudice in this documentary film.
    The English subtitles that BBC translated does not exactly match what the people said in some parts of the film,
    they fabricated it for the reason--“politically correct”
    BTW, I am the translator
    I watched it yesterday. I have noticed as well that the English voice over does not quite match what people said in the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fly2012 View Post
    Actually not this one. Carrie Gracie has lived in China for 30 years and she give a fairly balanced view. Despite all the struggles, it is a happy ending. The documentary is very inspiring in my view. it is translated into Chinese and received very positive reviews in Chinese forums.

    In my opinion, this should be a textbook documentary for developing countries, they should learn a few things from China - both experiences and lessons.
    I just finished watching it and you are right. It is definitely the most unbiased BBC production concerning China I have seen. Definitely not your typical BBC China documentary which is usually a laughably biased waste of time.

    Expanding on this documentary, something they should have mentioned is the background of the urbanization policy. In the mid-1990s, there was a debate concerning how China would manage its urbanization. At that time, it wasn't yet decided how urbanization should proceed. The debate revolved around 2 disparate urbanization strategies. As I remember it, the 1st option involved building from scratch 10000 brand new cities with an average population of 50000 people each. This would form the backbone of China's urban landscape and preserve China's traditional village neighborhoods within a new urban setting. This is also what incorrectly "APPEARS" to be the case for White Horse Village.

    The 2nd option was to expand the existing cities to become mega cities of many tens of millions each, all interconnected with regional inter-city infrastructure links. This idea eventually won out because this would give China unprecedented economies of scale even though the urbanization rate would be no different than the 1st option. In other words, with this model, China would end up with 8 or 9 super megalopolises of up to 150 million people while the areas in between would be relatively small urban clusters of 15 million or less and hold the remaining rural population that by then would represent less than 15% of the population. This model would give China a lasting and insurmountable competitive edge vs the rest of the world by concentrating strategic industries and skilled people into highly concentrated urban agglomerations.

    As it stands now, option #2 has won out. It appears that the urbanization of White Horse Village is an example of option #1, but it is actually part of a larger plan by the central government to urbanize Chongqing municipality that is an attempt to replicate the success of Shanghai municipality. Outside of Chongqing, this sort of wholesale rural urbanization plan is not typical, EXCEPT in villages within close proximity of existing urban centers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skyknight View Post
    There still exist some prejudice in this documentary film.
    The English subtitles that BBC translated does not exactly match what the people said in some parts of the film,
    they fabricated it for the reason--“politically correct”
    BTW, I am the translator
    Thanks. I watched it for twice. Really touched my heart. I miss China now.

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    Default Re: BBC Documentary - This World: The Fastest Changing Place on Earth

    Hey I posted it first on this forum no fair no thanks for me
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    Thanks Fly surprised this by the BBC, have to agree with others most unbiased I have seen.

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    IMHO, the ongoing urbanization and industrialization in west China is way much much more important than any weapon development. Hopefully, in near future another 20% of our population will become city dwellers and find jobs in industrial sectors. We are going to say farewell to poverty issue.

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    The author of this documentary is Carrie Gracie who was also the moderator of the BBC Beijing Olympic Games opening ceremony. She is soooooo much better than the German moderator ****** who knows nothing about China and through the whole ceremony she was looking at any signs of political messages from the athlets. When the Portuguese team came in holding up their scarfs, she was so excited and hope that some kind of political messages would appear and got so disappointed when all she saw was "I love Beijing". So many people in Germany were unhappy of her moderation because she made the opening ceremony into a political feature.

    The best was, just last year she moderated a talk show and former chancelor Helmut Schmidt was a guest. She knew that Schmidt is a good friend of China and has a very positiv view of china's development. Asking him about China, Schmidt replied that it's not up to us telling a civilisation that is 5000 years old what they should do. She chirped in with: But the human rights in China .... Helmut Schmidt: Stop with your nonsense. She was speechless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Götterdämmerung View Post
    The author of this documentary is Carrie Gracie who was also the moderator of the BBC Beijing Olympic Games opening ceremony. She is soooooo much better than the German moderator ****** who knows nothing about China and through the whole ceremony she was looking at any signs of political messages from the athlets. When the Portuguese team came in holding up their scarfs, she was so excited and hope that some kind of political messages would appear and got so disappointed when all she saw was "I love Beijing". So many people in Germany were unhappy of her moderation because she made the opening ceremony into a political feature.

    The best was, just last year she moderated a talk show and former chancelor Helmut Schmidt was a guest. She knew that Schmidt is a good friend of China and has a very positiv view of china's development. Asking him about China, Schmidt replied that it's not up to us telling a civilisation that is 5000 years old what they should do. She chirped in with: But the human rights in China .... Helmut Schmidt: Stop with your nonsense. She was speechless.
    Are there any other friendly china leaders like mr schmidt ? Merkel doesn't seem like one.


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