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    Quote Originally Posted by CardSharp View Post
    It was a good bit on how Mandarin sound versus Cantonese. You can tell he probably hangs out/grew up with a lot of Chinese friends.
    Also, the Cantonese English accent and the Mandarin English accent are quite different.

    There are a lot of similarities though. For example, neither Mandarin or Cantonese have the "V" sound, so "ventilation" will sound like "wentilation".

    Hong Kong English is easily distinguished because there is no "R" sound in Cantonese (unlike Mandarin) so "free" will end up sounding like "fee".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Punjabbi Munda View Post
    Well the Chinese language does sound like Ching chong wonge he wah hong wiuu chingiy etc..
    Its weird anyhow..
    Excuse me Sir Indian, but "Ching chong" is an established racial slur.

    Ching chong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Ching chong is an ethnic slur sometimes employed by Americans and other speakers of the English language to mock people of Chinese ancestry, or other Asians who may look Chinese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CardSharp View Post
    It was a good bit on how Mandarin sound versus Cantonese. You can tell he probably hangs out/grew up with a lot of Chinese friends.
    BTW... I can't seem to find this Russell Peters video, does anyone have a link?

    For the record I think Mandarin sounds a lot nicer than Cantonese. Cantonese sounds quite "rough", like German or Japanese.

    Mandarin sounds a lot more "proper" and official.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    Also, the Cantonese English accent and the Mandarin English accent are quite different.

    There are a lot of similarities though. For example, neither Mandarin or Cantonese have the "V" sound, so "ventilation" will sound like "wentilation".

    Hong Kong English is easily distinguished because there is no "R" sound in Cantonese (unlike Mandarin) so "free" will end up sounding like "fee".
    Chinese people in general have trouble with R and L sounds (Liquid consonant and Rhotic consonant in phonetic terminology)

    but you seem to be right about some Mandarin dialects having R sounds. (never really took note of it)

    Rhotic and non-rhotic accents - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In Mandarin, many words are pronounced with the coda [ɻ]. But this happens only in some areas, mainly in the Northern region, notably including Beijing; in other areas it tends to be omitted. But in characters pronounced [ɑ̂ɻ], for instance 二 "two", the [ɻ] is an inherent part of the word and is always pronounced, even in areas where that [ɻ] coda would not be pronounced.
    To me Chinese words like skewer (as in shishkabob), sounds more natural with an "er"sound after it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    BTW... I can't seem to find this Russell Peters video, does anyone have a link?

    For the record I think Mandarin sounds a lot nicer than Cantonese. Cantonese sounds quite "rough", like German or Japanese.

    Mandarin sounds a lot more "proper" and official.
    Really? I always thought that Mandarin sounded harsher and that Catonese was more flowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardSharp View Post
    To me Chinese words like skewer (as in shishkabob), sounds more natural with an "er"sound after it.
    You mean Erhua right?

    Well, you are from the Beijing area, so you're probably more comfortable with that. South Chinese don't tend to do it as much.

    Quote Originally Posted by CardSharp View Post
    Really? I always thought that Mandarin sounded harsher and that Catonese was more flowing.
    It depends on your point of view I think, but personally I prefer the "sound" of Mandarin.

    Cantonese is also loaded with all sorts of rough "slang" terms that don't correspond to the written form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    You mean Erhua?

    Well, you're from the Beijing area so you're probably more comfortable with that. South Chinese don't tend to do it as much.
    Hmmm I alway thought that it the er sound was universal for Mandarin (guess not). Erhua is apparently a dialect thing .

    Anyways, I think both dialects of Chinese are nice and each has it's own unique style and nuance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CardSharp View Post
    Hmmm I alway thought that it the er sound was universal for Mandarin (guess not). Erhua is apparently a dialect thing .

    Anyways, I think both dialects of Chinese are nice and each has it's own unique style and nuance.
    Well it is sort of universal, in that everyone in China will be familiar it. Standard Mandarin has relatively less Erhua I would say.

    It's mostly the non-Mandarin speaking Chinese (in South China) who are less comfortable with Erhua.

    I really wish they would teach Mandarin as the official language here in HK though. Hong Kongers really need to improve their Mandarin skills.
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    When I was in 5-6th grade, I was made fun of by my peers at school when I talked Chinese on the phone with my parents. Now everyone at my university is like "oh how awesome you can speak Chinese" and "think of the great opportunity you'll have" etc etc. It really shows that:

    1. Westerners have no respect for people who are poor and less advanced than themselves.
    2. Educating yourself and empowering your nation is the only to increase a country's standing in the world.
    3. China has came a long way in the past 10 years. I think the last ten years have been decisive for China's emergence (thank you Bush!) as a world leading nation. I believe we're at a stage where America can no longer "contain" China

    My 0.02 euro =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punjabbi Munda View Post
    Well the Chinese language does sound like Ching chong wonge he wah hong wiuu chingiy etc..
    Its weird anyhow..
    You can talk..........I believe it was Winston Churchill who called Hindus a beastly people with a beastly religion...........take the hint.....

    Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones at others........

    Insulting Chinese culture and language like this has been allowed to not just go a miss, but become part of a norm and social life.......it is nothing less then racism shown towards black and other Asians........just made acceptable in the West.......attitudes need to change as China is a growing power and those Chinese (oriental) nationals living in the West are not going to just accept it for much longer as China gets stronger daily............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikethedyke View Post
    When I was in 5-6th grade, I was made fun of by my peers at school when I talked Chinese on the phone with my parents. Now everyone at my university is like "oh how awesome you can speak Chinese" and "think of the great opportunity you'll have" etc etc. It really shows that:

    1. Westerners have no respect for people who are poor and less advanced than themselves.
    2. Educating yourself and empowering your nation is the only to increase a country's standing in the world.
    3. China has came a long way in the past 10 years. I think the last ten years have been decisive for China's emergence (thank you Bush!) as a world leading nation. I believe we're at a stage where America can no longer "contain" China

    My 0.02 euro =)
    I learned English around the same age but I never took it personally when people made fun of my accent. Really you shouldn't have thought it that way, a) it doesn't help, the more you dwell on it and are sensitive about it, the more they will also. b) As kids, it's much more innocent than that. Kids at that age will make fun of anything that is different and strange.

    my 2 CND cent. =)

    and I agree with you about a countries standing being somewhat socially relevant (but it doesn't really have to be).

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    look at how stupid these people are. these people do reflect the whole of white america. and they wonder why people around the world hate their guts.

    this is what they specialist in: racism, hate. united states had been racist in its beginning and it continues to be to this day; hiding behind their fake democracy so nothing they say can really seem racist, provoking, hateful. they do racism like flinching, it comes natural so they don't think anything is wrong.

    i can't wait until that day when people like rush limbaugh gets hanged for what they are, a disease to the earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CardSharp View Post
    Careful, I do a killer hindi-English accent.
    I'm curious to see record a clip and post on youtube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Punjabbi Munda View Post
    Well the Chinese language does sound like Ching chong wonge he wah hong wiuu chingiy etc..
    Its weird anyhow..
    no one actually thinks it does. it is only a term used to insult chinese language. when people like you say ching chong it makes you sound like a retard.

    you couldn't win debate with any sort of truth or logic if you really tried to argue about how 'ching chong' sounds chinese. go ahead and give it a try.

    i'm kind of surprised how you support this since these racist connotations were created by white people who also created racist connotations about indians, but then again they are your masters so it should come natural as an indian to stand behind your master.

    indians like you sure know their place, the whites tamed you well.

    thank you come again!
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    more low IQ rants from a low IQ country.
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    No Chinese dialect sounds like "Ching Chong", who does care what white people think about us?

    If white people think we are monkeys, does make it true? No, this is the delusional racism of the white people.

    Remember the real name for China is "ZhongGuo" aka the Middle Kingdom, China is a western name for us. Certainly "Ching Chong" doesn't remotely sound like Chinese.
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