Hazrat Ayesha's Age at Marriage.

[AgNoStIc MuSliM]

Originally Posted by Chanakya

I never claimed that these are my views , in any discussion you quote from various logical and technical sources .
yes i didnt use quote feature or quotation marks. but that doesnt means i am claiming them to be mine .

Yes you quote from various sources, but you are also supposed to cite those sources and/or make clear that you are quoting someone - neither of which you did.

and by the way check your earlier post you havent used quotation mark Dear . so dont jump around

If you would bother to give the rest of the posters the courtesy of reading the existing posts in the thread before spamming with your own, you would realize that as the thread starter, I included the first argument of Moiz Amjad in the first post - in quotes and with the link.

Here is the link to it, since you obviously don't bother to check what has been discussed in a conversation already.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/theolog...tml#post107133

The post you responded to was the exact same argument, reposted for your convenience, and even then, I clarified that I was referring to someone else's comments in the post immediately before that one. I also did indeed use quotes in that post. i can't help it of you don't have any observation skills and tunnel vision.

The post preceding the one in question:

Please read the arguments presented by the gentleman in that link, against Hadith that suggest Ayesha's age to be 7 or 9, and offer rebuttals if you can.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/theolog...tml#post117554

The post in question:
(notice the quotation marks in the beginning and at the end, and also note that this was a repeat of the same arguments quoted in the first post of the thread, and therefore something I assumed you would have had the courtesy to read before posting, and would know about.)
http://www.defence.pk/forums/theolog...tml#post117555

[aryan2007]

Originally Posted by AgNoStIc MuSliM

Yes you quote from various sources, but you are also supposed to cite those sources and/or make clear that you are quoting someone - neither of which you did.

Not necessary.. unless if you ask him?? this is not an academic forum IMO...

anyways he has left the forum in protest of certain very blasphemous posts in the Who is a HIndu thread?

so to for him for NOW..

[WebMaster]

Originally Posted by aryan2007

Not necessary.. unless if you ask him?? this is not an academic forum IMO...

anyways he has left the forum in protest of certain very blasphemous posts in the Who is a HIndu thread?

so to for him for NOW..

Please.. the guy was thrown out. Just like dozens of other forums.

[Asim Aquil]

Originally Posted by Chanakya

Moiz Amjad has presented a series of erudite and detailed arguments as to why the generally accepted ‘Sunni’ understanding of Aisha’s age (i.e. nine-years-old) when she married and had sex with Muhammad, based on commonly known narratives, is erroneous and contradictory.

However, on closer inspection, it appears he has produced arguments that can be broadly categorized into five categories:

A. Unjustified slanders against Hisham ibn Urwah and the other Iraqi narrators.
B. The use of non-sahih information to refute otherwise sahih hadiths.
C. The use of secondary, indirect sources in preference of direct testimonies.
D. The use of ‘imprecise’ dating in preference to specific dates and statements of age.
E. Personal opinion.

For these reasons, I reject Moiz Amjad’s attempt to discredit the ‘Aisha age’ hadiths, particularly those of Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim

I will now attach all the ‘Aisha age’ hadiths, both sahih and less sahih, noting that there is NO CONTRADICTION in the sahih hadiths of Bukhari, Muslim and Ibn Majah, and also those of Abu Dawud. The only contradictions are with those of ‘lesser’ authenticity such as the works of Tabari. and these are taken from various different sources and i dont claim to be mine

Dude the most compelling arguments was not slander or any of that. It was math.

Asma = 10 years older to Aisha
Asma dies at age 100.
Asma dies in the year 73H
Asma was born in year -27H.
Asma was 27 year old on 1H.
Aisha was married on 1H.
Asma was 27 year old on Aisha's Marriage.
Asma was 10 years older to Aisha...

Aisha's age = 27years - 10 years.
Aisha was 17 at her marriage.