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    Quote Originally Posted by cb4 View Post
    Why is it so hard to construct a pipeline? Is it rocket science or we don't have money?
    china is funding the project and is also helping construct the pipeline. i think its more about money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by punjabimunda View Post
    china is funding the project and is also helping construct the pipeline. i think its more about money.
    In any event Iran has offered to finance the Pakistani leg. Guys why is it that I can see the inevitability of this but some of you area bit reserved. Believe me I have read every scrap of news on this. Both countries have no choice circumstances are conspiring to make this a forgone conclusion. Those that are against this or think it is unlikely are swimming against the tide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakii View Post
    .............
    Now the new reports are Zardari convinced the Chinese government to fund the project and they have promised to pledge full support and finance the project. Lets see....
    The new reports are quite meaningless without Chinese corroboration and a signed contract. An "unnamed official" saying that a Chinese company was "likely to participate" is typical BS that almost is never substantive:


    ..........The agreement was reached during a recent visit by Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari and Minister for Petroleum and Natural Resources Asim Hussain to China, Pakistani daily Today reported Saturday.

    Quoting an unnamed official, the daily said that a Chinese company was likely to participate in the construction of the IP pipeline.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by VCheng View Post
    The new reports are quite meaningless without Chinese corroboration and a signed contract. An "unnamed official" saying that a Chinese company was "likely to participate" is typical BS that almost is never substantive:
    I am depending upon the words of Prime Minister... not the chinese source

    We all know China had backed off from the project... this is latest - so wait until more news are released

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakii View Post
    Gazprom was willing to fund the project but backed off due to various reasons we all know.
    ....
    Gazprom did not back off. they did not want to bid in open auction. So Pakistan gov would have had to waive its procedures in procurement. But it don't matter anymore cos Iranians have conformed in Iranian press I read that they will finance and or underwrite it and there is no question that they can not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakii View Post
    I am depending upon the words of Prime Minister... not the chinese source

    We all know China had backed off from the project... this is latest - so wait until more news are released
    Bwahahahaha!

    Is he really credible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakii View Post
    I am depending upon the words of Prime Minister... not the chinese source

    We all know China had backed off from the project... this is latest - so wait until more news are released
    And you blindly trust yr PM who is known to be known as Mr ten percent?
    Give me yr honest reply....Do u think he is honest?
    If not, why beleive him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakii View Post

    We all know China had backed off from the project... this is latest - so wait until more news are released
    My understanding from a number of sources is that the finance is or may be still provided by Iran but companies from China and Iran will assist etc. It's certainly more of a goer than American tapi. Also I am looking forward to hearing sometime in the future India or China joining in.

    Quote Originally Posted by ashok321 View Post
    And you blindly trust yr PM who is known to be known as Mr ten percent?
    Give me yr honest reply....
    an there are several sources reporting it

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    Quote Originally Posted by VCheng View Post
    Bwahahahaha!

    Is he really credible?
    He as an individual is nobody - the Prime Minister is the most credible source of the country?

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    China to back Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project

    On Line: 10 June 2012 16:46
    In Print: Monday 11 June 2012

    ISLAMABAD - Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari and Petroleum Minister Dr Asim Hussain remained successful in convincing the Chinese leadership during their recent visit to China to take part in the bidding for the construction of the Iran-Pakistan (IP) gas pipeline project.

    An official source said after getting China’s backing, the government had extended the deadline for the prequalification of the engineering, procurement, construction (EPC) and commissioning of the 785km-long pipeline from June 8 to June 22.

    He said a leading Chinese firm was likely to participate in the construction of the IP pipeline.

    He said it was a big achievement, as China’s participation in the project would ensure its safety, adding that Iran had already assured Pakistan of providing all the financial and technical assistance, including equipment and compressors, for the commissioning of the pipeline.
    The estimated cost of the project on the Pakistani side is estimated at $1.2 billion.

    The 42-inch diameter gas pipeline will be transporting high pressure one billion cubic feet gas per day (bcfd) from an off-take point near Gwadar to gas integration point near Nawabshah. The country is faced with a gas shortage of 2bcfd, which is estimated to increase to 6bcfd in the next five years if new discoveries are not made or gas is not imported.

    The pipeline will follow the coastal route and will be safe from any sabotage activities in Balochistan. The government is ready to offer the project, either on EPC or turnkey basis, per the prequalification document. Construction includes pipeline, compressor stations, main line block valve stations, pig launching and receiving stations, CP installations, SCADA other related equipment, installations and pipeline crossings across various nullahs and rivers including River Indus.

    Earlier, a selected consortium led by Industrial and Commercial Bank of China (ICBC) and Habib Bank of Pakistan (HBL) waned away from financing the IP project after the United States issued strong statements against the project.
    Pakistan was looking towards Gazprom to undertake the project but the deal did not materialize. The government has already decided to dedicate the imported gas through the IP pipeline for the power sector as power shortage is projected to increase over 11,000MW in the next few years. The government is working to starting process for setting up new independent power producers (IPPs) of 5,000MW cumulative capacity so that they should be ready for commissioning by the time natural gas starts flowing from the IP pipeline in December 2014.

    Beijing finally agrees to lay IP gas line in Pak territory

    In a new development China, which had earlier backtracked from being the financial advisor for laying the 785 km pipeline in Pakistan’s territory under the Iran-Pakistan (IP) gas project, has once again shown willingness to become the EPCC (Engineering Procurement Construction and Commissioning) contactor.

    President Asif Ali Zardari and federal minister for petroleum and natural resources Dr Asim Hussain who are currently in Beijing have reportedly succeeded in persuading China to take part in the IP project, a senior official quoting the information trickling down from China told The News.

    “Managing director of Inter-State Gas System Mr Mubin Saulat dashed to China for finaliZing the details and Pakistan has agreed 90 percent of the terms and conditions offered by China for playing the role as contractor of the project.”

    Pakistan had earlier issued tenders on April 27 to build the 785 kilometers long pipeline in two years’ time. The interested companies were bound to submit their technical and financial bids for the project by June 8. Now under the new scenario, the date of submitting the technical and financial bid has been extended to June 22 to acccommodate the Chinese company.

    About 750 million to 1 billion cubic feet of gas per day will be transported at high pressure through 42-inch diameter pipeline. The contractor will also install three pressure compressors in the pipeline from Pak-Iran border to Nawabshah.

    The official said the strategy, which was earlier worked out between Pakistan and Iran, has been slightly changed. Now the Chinese company will complete the project, but Iran will provide the pipeline, gas compressors and block valves. Earlier it was decided that the Iranian company would construct the project in Pakistan’s territory.

    To a question he said that Pakistan would provide reasonable funds for the project and in case of any shortage the Iranian offer of $250-500 million is available. He said the increase of GDS (Gas Development Surcharge) on gas to five sectors would help collect Rs102 billion in one year that would be utilized for laying down the pipeline.

    Under the gas sales purchase agreement (GSPA), the official said, Pakistan is bound to have a first take of Iranian gas by December 2014 and in case of failure, it will have to pay $ 1 million per day to Iran as penalty.

    Secretary Petroleum Ijaz Chaudhry said that Pak-Iran gas pipeline project would be completed up to December 2014.

    Talking to a private news channel, he said that Pakistan is serious in the gas pipeline project.

    He added that companies have been short listed for the construction of the pipeline.

    Ijaz Chaudhry said that Iran has offered support for the project in shape of materials.

    He further said that Pakistan is looking also for other options.

    He added that talks were underway with Russian and Chinese companies.

    The government will provide funds to build infrastructure of the project from its treasury, the Secretary added.

    http://www.tehrantimes.com/economy-a...peline-project

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    [QUOTE=Aryan_B;3039681



    an there are several sources reporting it[/QUOTE]

    What is the bottom line anyway, because u hv accused modi in yr post too...so?
    What should be the sauce for goose should be the sauce for the gender no?
    Zardari is well known corrupt person poll wise in pakistan...lol

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    Govt aims to complete land acquisition formalities by July 2013


    Javed Mirza
    Sunday, June 10, 2012
    From Print Edition


    [Govt aims to complete land acquisition formalities by July 2013]


    Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline



    KARACHI: Despite opposition by the United States, the government has framed ambitious plans to move forward with the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline including completion of land acquisition formalities in the upcoming fiscal year.



    According to an official document, planned activities regarding import of gas via Iran-Pakistan (IP) pipeline for the fiscal year 2012-13 include award of contract to line pipes supplier scheduled for September 2012.



    The finalization of front end engineering design has been planned to be done in September 2012 followed by finalisation of bankable feasibility study and completion of social & environmental impact assessment by March 2013.



    The government has planned to appoint the engineering, procurement and construction (EPC) contractor for the project by March 2013 and completion of land acquisition formalities by July 2013.



    The estimated cost of laying the Pakistan segment of the 42-inch diameter pipeline is $1.245 billion.



    The progress made so far include appointment of E&PM consultant in April 2011, route reconnaissance survey in July 2011, interim front end engineering design and interim bankable feasibility study in March 2012 and detailed route survey completed in April 2012.



    The targeted agreement between all parties on transit fee has also been executed in April 2012.



    It may be mentioned here that President Asif Ali Zardari and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, during their meeting Thursday on the sidelines of Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) Summit in Beijing, agreed to vigorously pursue the Iran-Pakistan gas pipeline project as well as supply of electricity to Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakii View Post
    He as an individual is nobody - the Prime Minister is the most credible source of the country?
    Even if he is dishonest?

    One more reason there would be new drone attaks on Pakistan and may be some more, because while india n other countries fall in line to not deal commercially with Iran, here comes pakistan....lets see who is shooting himelf to foot...on IPL lol

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    Man what I am happy about is that not only will it benefit Pakistani and Iranians but it is a middle finger to some barking dogs lol

    Quote Originally Posted by ashok321 View Post
    What is the bottom line anyway, because u hv accused modi in yr post too...so?
    What should be the sauce for goose should be the sauce for the gender no?
    Zardari is well known corrupt person poll wise in pakistan...lol
    wtf has Modi got to do with this mate??
    Pukhtoon thanked this.

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    I will ignore on paper developments. Pakistan and numerous countries have been doing deals but then again its always delays or cancellations. I have come to believe that at the end of the day tangible things matter.


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