Indian TATA won the tender of 8,000 buses for Karachi city

[HAIDER]

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KARACHI, April 18: The arrival of the first consignment of 250 buses, out of the 8,000 promised by the city government authorities, has once again hit a delay. It is expected that the consignment, from India, would now be inducted into the city’s transport fleet by July 2007.

EDO Transport and Communication Mohammad Athar told PPI on Wednesday that a private company had undertaken to bring in the buses by March this year but the delay was caused as the setting up of CNG stations could not materialise and the incentives offered by the federal government were also yet to be finalised. He said that the Sweden Bus Company had inked a deal with the Tata company of India in respect of the 250 CNG buses to be imported in the initial phase. He stated that in the past, the same company had introduced air-conditioned CNG buses in Karachi, but later it wound up its business due to lack of back-up support and provision of spare parts for their buses. This time, their deal with the Indian company includes complete technical back-up and the provision of an assembling plant to be set up in Pakistan.

The EDO said the city government had given two proposals to the federal steering committee concerned about setting up of the CNG stations on the basis of ‘build, operate and transfer’, or allowing the bus companies to have their own CNG stations at their bus depots.
http://www.dawn.com/2007/04/19/local19.htm

The EDO said the government’s policy was to promote public-private partnership in the public transport sector. He blamed lack of responsibility, sincerity and dedication for the failure of the defunct Karachi Transport Corporation (KTC). “We do not want to create another ‘white elephant’ like the KTC, which had been set up with investment of billions of rupees and had to wind it up after borrowing $1.7 billion from the World Bank for golden handshake offered to its employees,� he said.

Meanwhile, sources said that no new bus had been inducted into the Karachi Public Transport Service (KPTS) since 2001. DCO Fazlur Rehman, Chairman of the KPTS, has not called a meeting of its executive and honorary committees for the past three years, they added.—PPI

[Adux]

Nice going Pakistan!!!!!!

[BATMAN]

Another stupid Pakistani foreign purchase.

[Neo]

Why doesn't Tata set up a local assembly plant for the 8.000 busses?

[HAIDER]

Basically its good will gesture from Pakistan and plus it was lowest bid in tender. Best CNG buses are produce in Iran. India recently started CNG buses and non in Pakistan and its biggest foreign order in TATA history. Let see how the capture the market and what will happened in after sales service. And when TATA establish plant in Karachi.

[Neo]

After Brasil, Pakistan iss the second largest CNG user, I have no doubt the sceme would be a success.
Considering the size of the order I would have gone for a local assembly to give a boost to our manufacturing industry.
I don't understand our politicians...

[HAIDER]

Real truth behind is, TAta being trying for many years to set up industry in Pakistan to cover middle east and central aisa. Without establishing in Pakistan, whateva India produce, still stuck in local market. And local market has limit to absorb goods,machines and services.

[Adux]

OOOOh lucky Tata's, They were desperate stupid people and Pakistan did favour...

Lets put it this way;

Pakistan made the right business choice. Tata's made profit and Pakistani Transport was happy. You just cant say that can you.

Neo,

8000 buses's is a small number to set up, Air-conditioned buses are different; they are totally factory built unlike the chasis only trucks where you can built the body..


And Haider please go read about TATA's international profile, they even own Daewoo heavy Vehicles of Korea. They are already present in Middle east, Africa, South America and Europe. Pakistan is a big market, if tata's get through it is a good business oppertunity, its a good for pakistani consumers to get cheap, reliable and quality vehicles. But by no means Pakistan is linked to the middle east and Central Asia. They are already their.

Haider, Afghanistan is filled with TATA and Ashok Leyland Trucks; How did they get there?

[Interceptor]

After Brasil, Pakistan iss the second largest CNG user, I have no doubt the sceme would be a success.
Considering the size of the order I would have gone for a local assembly to give a boost to our manufacturing industry.
I don't understand our politicians...

Yep like Neo said Pakistan has good interest in CNG technology.

http://www.engineeringpakistan.com/E...NG%20Buses.pdf

This is pdf shows the types of CNG buses available locally there is mix origin of buses.

[HAIDER]

All donated buses from India for Aganistan are still parked on border and catching rust..
In middle east only TATA buses can be found in Dubai, has nothing in their just loading and unloading labour. Daweoo products sucks anyway, big failure in Pakistan and even US. Only TATA is getting is nissan motors model. Made by Nissan and logo by TATA. Same in Pakistan, whateva we call suzuki or honda..but still origin and parts from Japan.

[Adux]

Parked in which border?Google up bander abbas...Haider, You will get your answer how they get there.
And you have no clue. so read up kid

[HAIDER]

Its matter of logistics and market. Those afgan buses still parked in Pak border, dryport. Every indian good deliver to afganistan through Pakistan. Its matter of commonsense, why India will go all the way to bandar abbas and make delivery to Afganistan. India is basically a land locked country, and it need passage through Pakistan to make fast delivery to Russia and Central europe or even europe. Instead loading goods of ship takes forever. Clearing and forwarding takes ages.

Indian TATA bus




Some Pakistan made buses





CNG Bus

[HAIDER]

25 buses flagged off for Afghanistan
Our Correspondent

Wagah (Amritsar), December 29
A convoy of 25 buses was flagged off from the border joint checkpost here today for war-torn Afghanistan as a New Year gift.

With this, Afghanistan has received 75 buses in three consignments as a goodwill gesture from India.

Twentyfive drivers, three engineers and six transport officials from Afghanistan accompanied the buses on their 1,400-km long journey through Lahore, Peshawar, Jalalabad to the Chaman border between Pakistan and Afghanistan before proceeding on to Kabul.

Mohammed Samim Hamraz, Second Secretary, Embassy of Afghanistan in Pakistan, received the buses from the Pakistan side of the Wagah border. Mr Abdul Hafiz Karmai, president, supplies and procurement, Ministry of Transport, Afghanistan, and his deputy Mr Abdul Khaliq accompanied the buses.

Mr Hamraz said Afghanistan would remain grateful to India for this gesture. About repairs and reconstruction of gurdwaras in Pakistan, he said talks had been held with the SGPC which had assured all support in this connection. “India and Afghanistan have been allies and shared common ties since time of the Mughals. These would be sustained by Afghani people,” he added while confirming that Afghani Sikhs have returned to their homeland.

Afghanistan needed at least 1500 buses to create complete transport facilities as rail lines were non-existent there.

The toughest model with left-hand drive, 55 seats, pressure doors and barred windows for rough roads have been provided to the Afghanistan Government.

As many as 425 remaining buses would be delivered to the Afghanistan Government with next consignments, said Mr Nand Kishore Luthra, representative of Telco in Afghanistan.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2002/20021230/punjab1.htm

what u think now....u ready to deliver 75 buses through Iran to Afganistan.....?
Correction: TATA has bought Daweoo trucking company, not whole Daweoo company.

[Bushroda]

How convineant for some people to pick up an old 1970s model of a buses to make themselves feel good.

Here are some models of TATA buses. If anybody doubts TATA logo is clearly visible.



Another one



yet another one



Here is TATA's low-floor BEST buses used as public transport in Mumbai



Tata's low floor buses for Delhi public transport

[genmirajborgza786]

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Why doesn't Tata set up a local assembly plant for the 8.000 busses?

i agree & Pakistan needs settings up plant,s & industries as much as possible it will help Pakistan become more self reliant this is one place where i really dont understand why is P.M shaukat aziz not industrializing the country be it TATA or any other company they can set up plants we can get more industries plus the gain of know how not only in this but many others fields as well will be beneficial to Pakistan only.