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    Shame that this is happening in Pakistan..the Jahil moulvis should concentrate more on social upliftment than jihad against the infidels.
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    Is it possible to make sure that religious scholars get certified or something from the government to ensure that they really are knowledgeable about the Islamic law? Stupid scholars need to be eradicated from Pakistan, the state of scholars in our country reminds of the atrocities committed by the Catholic Church in Medieval Europe. Of course that might be an extreme exaggeration, but the point gets across all the same.

    As for this girl's father, if it's possible then in my opinion he should face charges relating to child abuse or something. The society needs to be better educated in regards to both religious & non-religious education, that's the only way incidents such as this one can be reduced.

    Best of luck to this girl, lets hope she can have a better life from here on out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by somebozo View Post


    Shame that this is happening in Pakistan..the Jahil moulvis should concentrate more on social upliftment than jihad against the infidels.
    Don't expect anything from these maulvis, only National Socialism/Socialists can bring social change.
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    This is a sad story but what is even more sad is that we have no safety net for such social injustices. That makes all of us Pakistanis guilty of neglect. We cannot just curse the stupid maulvis and walk away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p(-)0ENiX View Post
    Is it possible to make sure that religious scholars get certified or something from the government to ensure that they really are knowledgeable about the Islamic law? Stupid scholars need to be eradicated from Pakistan, the state of scholars in our country reminds of the atrocities committed by the Catholic Church in Medieval Europe. Of course that might be an extreme exaggeration, but the point gets across all the same.

    As for this girl's father, if it's possible then in my opinion he should face charges relating to child abuse or something. The society needs to be better educated in regards to both religious & non-religious education, that's the only way incidents such as this one can be reduced.

    Best of luck to this girl, lets hope she can have a better life from here on out.
    Yep it is possible..look at Saudi Arabia as a model...no one dare himself declare a self appointed mullah..and when Mushraff tried to implement the same..we had waves of protest..I think we need a Saddam or Gemal Nasser to fix our country. Gas all these mullah or sink them in the Arabian sea.
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    Default Re: jahil moulvis of pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by p(-)0ENiX View Post
    Is it possible to make sure that religious scholars get certified or something from the government to ensure that they really are knowledgeable about the Islamic law? Stupid scholars need to be eradicated from Pakistan, the state of scholars in our country reminds of the atrocities committed by the Catholic Church in Medieval Europe. Of course that might be an extreme exaggeration, but the point gets across all the same.

    As for this girl's father, if it's possible then in my opinion he should face charges relating to child abuse or something. The society needs to be better educated in regards to both religious & non-religious education, that's the only way incidents such as this one can be reduced.

    Best of luck to this girl, lets hope she can have a better life from here on out.
    Yes a system of certification exists already..Its been there for decades....
    But same way as in a university you cannot guarantee that every engineer will be a good engineer...you cant guarantee that every Graduate of a religious school will be a good graduate....People have minds of their own and choose their own destiny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebozo View Post
    Yep it is possible..look at Saudi Arabia as a model...no one dare himself declare a self appointed mullah..and when Mushraff tried to implement the same..we had waves of protest..I think we need a Saddam or Gemal Nasser to fix our country. Gas all these mullah or sink them in the Arabian sea.
    Nope, no thank you. Please keep your ways of controlling the masses to yourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebozo View Post
    Yep it is possible..look at Saudi Arabia as a model...no one dare himself declare a self appointed mullah..and when Mushraff tried to implement the same..we had waves of protest..I think we need a Saddam or Gemal Nasser to fix our country. Gas all these mullah or sink them in the Arabian sea.
    Why do you want to kick their bread and butter (in Pakistani malvees' case gosht and roti).

    Also if in Pakistan children are taught Arabic language as per the constitution, just see how all these maulvees will loose their gosht and roti and the society can become a lot better as they will not have to refer to the maulvees or peers.

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    Let's eradicate this disease once and for all, these so called 'scholars' are not wanted. Scholars are strictly cynical. Everyone should be their own scholar, have their own opinion, read the Quran for themselves. This tafseeris and moulvis are bad news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safriz View Post
    Yes a system of certification exists already..Its been there for decades....
    But same way as in a university you cannot guarantee that every engineer will be a good engineer...you cant guarantee that every Graduate of a religious school will be a good graduate....People have minds of their own and choose their own destiny...
    Very efficient system where a holder of false degree in Islamic studies gets a high ranking post in the ministry of Islamic affairs in "Islamic" Republic of Pakistan. (the QTV guy for an example)

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha View Post
    Let's eradicate this disease once and for all, these so called 'scholars' are not wanted. Scholars are strictly cynical. Everyone should be their own scholar, have their own opinion, read the Quran for themselves. This tafseeris and moulvis are bad news.
    Teaching Arabic to the children in schools is where it should start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha View Post
    Let's eradicate this disease once and for all, these so called 'scholars' are not wanted. Scholars are strictly cynical. Everyone should be their own scholar, have their own opinion, read the Quran for themselves. This tafseeris and moulvis are bad news.
    Lets kill all the teachers..Every school student should be their own teacher...Many of These idiot school kids later become corrupt politicians/corrupt Bureaucrats and many become Professional Criminals..Reason enough to burn all schoold and eradicate all teachers?

    Great logic my friend.

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bhatti View Post
    Very efficient system where a holder of false degree in Islamic studies gets a high ranking post in the ministry of Islamic affairs in "Islamic" Republic of Pakistan. (the QTV guy for an example)



    So let us teach Arabic to the children in schools to start with.
    And all your National assembly has fake degrees....Should we blame the Universities for that and shut them down?
    where is common sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bhatti View Post
    Why do you want to kick their bread and butter (in Pakistani malvees' case gosht and roti).

    Also if in Pakistan children are taught Arabic language as per the constitution, just see how all these maulvees will loose their gosht and roti and the society can become a lot better as they will not have to refer to the maulvees or peers.
    You live in emirates, you of all people shold know what this so called arabic means.
    They should be taught strictly Quranic arabic. Not any other kind, we dont want to lose our culture.


    Quote Originally Posted by Al Bhatti View Post
    Why do you want to kick their bread and butter (in Pakistani malvees' case gosht and roti).

    Also if in Pakistan children are taught Arabic language as per the constitution, just see how all these maulvees will loose their gosht and roti and the society can become a lot better as they will not have to refer to the maulvees or peers.
    You live in emirates, you of all people shold know what this so called arabic means.
    They should be taught strictly Quranic arabic. Not any other kind, we dont want to lose our culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha View Post
    You live in emirates, you of all people shold know what this so called arabic means.
    They should be taught strictly Quranic arabic. Not any other kind, we dont want to lose our culture.



    You live in emirates, you of all people shold know what this so called arabic means.
    They should be taught strictly Quranic arabic. Not any other kind, we dont want to lose our culture.
    Yes, i mean the Qur'an Arabic (formal Arabic العربية الفصحى) i don't mean to teach any particular dialect, dialects evolve with time as per the people who use the language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safriz View Post
    Lets kill all the teachers..Every school student should be their own teacher...Many of These idiot school kids later become corrupt politicians/corrupt Bureaucrats and many become Professional Criminals..Reason enough to burn all schoold and eradicate all teachers?

    Great logic my friend.



    And all your National assembly has fake degrees....Should we blame the Universities for that and shut them down?
    where is common sense?
    No relation in what you have said. Teachers of a subject teach stricktly from a syllabus and what is a fact.
    While these moulvis teach OPINION only.
    A single verse of the quran can have many different meanings depending on the person reading it, but 1+1 will always equal two. So no comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safriz View Post
    Lets kill all the teachers..Every school student should be their own teacher...Many of These idiot school kids later become corrupt politicians/corrupt Bureaucrats and many become Professional Criminals..Reason enough to burn all schoold and eradicate all teachers?

    Great logic my friend.



    And all your National assembly has fake degrees....Should we blame the Universities for that and shut them down?
    where is common sense?
    i am not saying to shut down i replied to Uchicha saying start with teaching Arabic to get rid of the menace of these peers and malvees'


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