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Old 06-20-2009, 03:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Navy seals 45,000-cr deal seven frigate

Navy seals 45,000-cr deal: seven warships


India has cleared its largest ever indigenous defence contract worth Rs 45,000 crore to manufacture seven advanced stealth frigates for the Navy at shipyards in Kolkata and Mumbai.
The P17A warship project, which will be India’s most advanced and stealthy frigates, has been cleared by the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) on Friday.
Sources said that brushing aside a request by the Navy that two of the indigenously designed frigates may be manufactured abroad, the DAC has decided that all seven warships will be manufactured in India by the Mazagon Dock Limited, Mumbai (MDL) and the Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE), Kolkata.
The Defence Ministry has allocated a budget of Rs 45,000 crore for the project and the work will be divided between the two shipyards. The P17A frigates will be even more advanced than the P17 Shivalik class warships that are currently being inducted by the Navy.
This will also be the first time that the two shipyards will construct warships in the modern way of modular manufacturing. The frigates will be put together using 300-ton blocks that will be fitted together, similar to the construction style being used to manufacture the Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) in Kochi.
This very concept of modular manufacturing had caused a divide between the Navy and the two shipyards with the former insisting that two ships be manufactured abroad so that Indian ship workers could absorb the required technology.
In 2006, the Navy had even issued a Request for Information (RFI) ¿ a prerequisite to a tender ¿ to international ship manufacturers including French DCNS, Italian Fincantieri, American firms Lockheed Martin and Northrop Gruman besides shipyards in Russia and Korea to manufacture the frigates.
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Old 06-20-2009, 05:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Thank god , it is 7 this time. This is what we need, 7 to 15 to stabilize a class.

Any announcement from MDL about the delivery schedule ? With this money MDL can do good expansion and build bigger drydocs for future ships.
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Thank god , it is 7 this time. This is what we need, 7 to 15 to stabilize a class.

Any announcement from MDL about the delivery schedule ? With this money MDL can do good expansion and build bigger drydocs for future ships.
No time table given by MDL coze right now they are full pack with current order. like scorpne submrine, delhi class D., shivalik class F. etc.... that is why mod split into GRSE & MDL.
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Old 06-20-2009, 06:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Any announcement from MDL about the delivery schedule ? With this money MDL can do good expansion and build bigger drydocs for future ships.
This is what the schedule seems to be...

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Modular construction facilities to be created by mid-2011,by when assembly of the Project 17-A frigates is due to start.

Vice Admiral HS Malhi, chairman and managing director (CMD) of MDL explains, “We have to ensure that the navy gets all these seven warships by 2021.
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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china also declare a plan of 100 billion USD....which is to be spent on gas and oil......



Russia and China sign 100-billion-dollar deal of the century!
it seems that both CHina and India are investing heavily..however in different ways.

India is interested in arms while CHina concentrates in economy.

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Russia and China sign 100-billion-dollar deal of the century
A new deal between Russia and China in the sum of about $100 billion became the largest deal that has ever been signed between the two countries, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said as a result of the meeting with his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao.

The two presidents signed a large package of documents, including those in the oil and gas industry, in Moscow.

“It became possible owing to the use of the mechanism that we invented with the leader of the People’s Republic of China a year ago,” Medvedev said
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India is interested in arms while CHina concentrates in economy.


You do realize that China's defence budget way more than India's?

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India is interested in arms while CHina concentrates in economy.
It seems to me that chinese consider apples and oranges to be the same!!!!
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You do realize that China's defence budget way more than India's?
I do know it.

but CHina's budget for oil ,gas ,road, airports ,seaports and other economy infrastructure is also way way more than India's.
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It seems to me that chinese consider apples and oranges to be the same!!!!
case is that India always asks for apple and ignore orange...

just hava a look at your poor roads.railway.airport...which is evey more crappy than black africa
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I do know it.

but CHina's budget for oil ,gas ,road, airports ,seaports and other economy infrastructure is also way way more than India's.
So in that regard China is bound to spend more on economy and defence regardless because of the size of economies. So your argument is futile that India needs to spend as much as china on economy. It's like comparing Pakistan with India, India is bound to spend more on economy and defence due to size of thier prospective economies.

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case is that India always asks for apple and ignore orange...

just hava a look at your poor roads.railway.airport...which is evey more crappy than black africa

This thread is not about India and China penis fight.

Infact we love our poor roads, railways, and airports. Even though they have lots of pot holes and crackes, it is not teflonned like in your country.

Last but not least, why have a racial tone (Black Africa), bigots like you should be lynched.

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Old 06-20-2009, 10:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
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So in that regard China is bound to spend more on economy and defence regardless because of the size of economies. So your argument is futile that India needs to spend as much as china on economy. It's like comparing Pakistan with India, India is bound to spend more on economy and defence due to size of thier prospective economies.
let us get back to the topic.

10 billion USD for 7 FFG is too expensive.....one FFG cost nearly 1.4 billion USD.

as I know, chinese 052C Aegis-style airdefence DDG costs only 3.5 billion + RMB( about 0.5 billion USD) while 052c has much more powerful capacity.
052c
[IMG][/IMG]

Chinese stealth 054a FFG has the performance similar with P17A while 054B cost only less 1.5 billion RMB( about 0.2 billion USD).
054a
[IMG][/IMG]

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case is that India always asks for apple and ignore orange...

just hava a look at your poor roads.railway.airport...which is evey more crappy than black africa
We are happy with that. Is that a problem to you? Do you have to clean those crappy roads.railway.airport which makes you angry?
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We have a free press which can take pics of anywhere, even if a place is not glamorous. We don't arrest journalists for taking pics we dont want to show to the world.

Here is the something which China Daily will not feed you with...
Social Media: Citizen journalists arrested in China
CIST - BBC Monitoring: China: RSF says foreign journalists still persecuted for covering Falun Gong

And here is some reality check of home which will not be braodcasted on CCTV...
http://www.screengold.co.uk/sgold1/d...ngqingslum.jpg

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news_im...-4-poverty.jpg

http://image.guim.co.uk/Guardian/new...-Chin-7482.jpg

Wonder how these photos sneaked pass through the CPC's Gigantic Screening of Poor Bad and Ugly.

I apologize for going OT Mods, but someone needed a reality check.
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so 1 India's P17 FFG is almost 10 time more expensive than CHinese' 054a FFG.

india's P17
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CHina's 054a
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case is that India always asks for apple and ignore orange...

just hava a look at your poor roads.railway.airport...which is evey more crappy than black africa
you know u sounds like a 17th century RACIST!!!.

As far as our economy is concerned, we are doing better than China in this time of economic melt down and thatz what i call my friend ECONOMIC STABILITY.
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