Peeved IAF Looks Beyond Russia To Revive Ilyushins

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Peeved IAF Looks Beyond Russia To Revive Ilyushins


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Seemingly exasperated by low-availability/serviceability for years as a consequence of what it has described unofficially as "unpredictable Russian support" and the country's apparent unwillingness to honour after-sales commitments, the Indian Air Force is looking for the first time beyond Russia for long-term maintenance and product support of its fleet of Ilyushin-76 heavy transports and Ilyushin-78M tanker transports at Agra, Chandigarh, Delhi and Nagpur.

In April this year, the IAF broke with tradition and floated a global tender to provide its Il-76/78 fleet "service support to ensure IAF requirements to maintain present airworthiness standards" for a period of five years, extendable to ten. The IAF has been improvising plenty to keep the heavy jets airworthy, but does not believe it can continue to do so without solid support. The Russian OEM, apparently, cannot be relied upon. The IAF has stipulated that bidders need to have the support of the Ilyushin Design Bureau.

According to the tender document, "The primary requirement of the contract is to ensure a minimum serviceability of 70% of number of [aircraft] included in the contract during the currency of contract. Period of contract shall be five years, further extendable for another five years. The vendor is required to meet this requirement by providing all the required maintenance and product support." It further stipulates that, "on any single day the serviceability of each fleet (IL-76 and IL-78) should not fall below 50% of total number of ac included in the contract."

Interestingly, the IAF has offered to pay the winning bidder an incentive if higher serviceability percentage above the minimum specified is achieved during execution of the contract. And they'll be penalised if they fall short of the required mark.

Nine IAF Ilyushins which will be undergoing overhaul and total life extension at the time the contract is expected to be awarded will not be included. An additional unspecified number of Ilyushins has remained grounded indefinitely "for want of spares/aggregates which have become unserviceable or expired their TBO/TTL".

[Archie]

My guess is that with the induction of C17 Globemaster , Iaf will retire the IL76 fleet

It seems that IAf will end up inducting some 16 C17 Globemasters between 2014-16
these should be enough to replace some 17 IL 76 currently in service

[jbgt90]

no mate the IAF will be keeping the IL76
as the c17 are a supplement to them .

[Lord Of Gondor]

no mate the IAF will be keeping the IL76
as the c17 are a supplement to them .

Why?!The C-17's are bigger,more efficient,more maintainence friendly and come with better customer care!

[nomi007]

indian mind set has been change

[tvsram1992]

Why?!The C-17's are bigger,more efficient,more maintainence friendly and come with better customer care!

These will be additional

[misterme2]

MAkes no sense why you guys keep on supporting some of the Russian junk at the expenxe of Indian preparedness and ability to wage battle. I mean, friendship is important but so is respect for the lives that are endangered by such issues as parts and repairs. More than likely, there must be a corruption angle....only way to nip corruption is to send a strong msg...start cutting heads off.

[CorporateAffairs]

MAkes no sense why you guys keep on supporting some of the Russian junk

Becoz the Russians don't have a use and throw policy

[sachin@india]

Becoz the Russians don't have a use and throw policy

Russian are getting unreliable day by day . we should go for c-17 and c-130 . they are best and americans do not delay. Russians are selling us junk for so long. We are paying our hard earned money for this junks.

Life cycle cost of russians equipment is twice of that of US. Time to send the message in clear terms to russians.

[IND151]

Russian are getting unreliable day by day . we should go for c-17 and c-130 . they are best and americans do not delay. Russians are selling us junk for so long. We are paying our hard earned money for this junks.

Life cycle cost of russians equipment is twice of that of US. Time to send the message in clear terms to russians.

agreed. but Russian equipment has no kill switches.

so i think we should buy only those equipment from US which we will deploy on Sino India border.

we should deploy European and Russian equipment on Pakistan border.

we must not be dependent fully on US,Europe and Russia

[OrionHunter]

MAkes no sense why you guys keep on supporting some of the Russian junk at the expenxe of Indian preparedness and ability to wage battle.

You mean the Americans are more dependable? Nope! Fall out of line and you're screwed! Not only spares but entire weapons platforms and sanctions on industries that have anything to do with them. That's what happened after the Pokhran nuke tests. Apart from sanctions on ISRO, DRDO etc, even vital systems/components contracted for the Tejas were denied which resulted in the project being delayed by years.

You guys really know how to screw others!!

[misterme2]

agreed. but Russian equipment has no kill switches.

so i think we should buy only those equipment from US which we will deploy on Sino India border.

we should deploy European and Russian equipment on Pakistan border.

we must not be dependent fully on US,Europe and Russia

Listen the kill switch theory is BS with no reputable proof at all. Anyhow, I can understand the security implications but to achieve dependent on nobody, means India fully developing her domestic industry which is not be implemented properly even now...As for Russia, they have consistently f-ked Inda over, slowed down your progress, your weapons development and at the same time they have CONSISTENTLY ARMED AND TRANSFERED KEY TECH TO CHINA, EVEN STUFF THAT WAS DENIED TO INDIA. That itself shows RUSSIA chooosing CHina over India. So, stop preachin ally BS and open your eyes to the gound realities. USA up till recently was not on India's side and INdia was not looking at issues from an American perspective. Time to loosen up and look outward at new beginnnings. Shed the CPC rhetoric and move forward. India;s biggest issues and problems have been those within the country itself. Let's be realistic, the CPC in West Bengal was and is taking orders from China. They even defended China over INdia....that itself is treason. Screw them..

[EurofighterIN]

Listen the kill switch theory is BS with no reputable proof at all. Anyhow, I can understand the security implications but to achieve dependent on nobody, means India fully developing her domestic industry which is not be implemented properly even now...As for Russia, they have consistently f-ked Inda over, slowed down your progress, your weapons development and at the same time they have CONSISTENTLY ARMED AND TRANSFERED KEY TECH TO CHINA, EVEN STUFF THAT WAS DENIED TO INDIA. That itself shows RUSSIA chooosing CHina over India. So, stop preachin ally BS and open your eyes to the gound realities. USA up till recently was not on India's side and INdia was not looking at issues from an American perspective. Time to loosen up and look outward at new beginnnings. Shed the CPC rhetoric and move forward. India;s biggest issues and problems have been those within the country itself. Let's be realistic, the CPC in West Bengal was and is taking orders from China. They even defended China over INdia....that itself is treason. Screw them..

Not true just ask the Turks why they replacing systems on their F16 with Turkish ones?

[misterme2]

You mean the Americans are more dependable? Nope! Fall out of line and you're screwed! Not only spares but entire weapons platforms and sanctions on industries that have anything to do with them. That's what happened after the Pokhran nuke tests. Apart from sanctions on ISRO, DRDO etc, even vital systems/components contracted for the Tejas were denied which resulted in the project being delayed by years.

You guys really know how to screw others!!

Yeah, well time to move forward in relations....you want to dwell on the past ...fine go ahead....and watch China jump leaps ahead ......while they assist Pakistan to gain equality whenever India moves ahead in any sphere. Wake up...you are still complaining about the past.....The British colonized and looted India....yet you have moved forward....so plz to you and others like you who spew this garabage the US past actions towards India....plz understand the geo political realities of the time and stop SCCREWING YOURSELVES OVER...

[EurofighterIN]

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Russia has helped India in all aspects like space, defence and energy we will always remember when USA big bully sent its aircraft carrier to the bay of bengal and the Soviets helped us.

---------- Post added at 02:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:43 PM ----------

Is USA prepared to give India a nuclear submarine? or seeker technology for our missiles?