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    A military coup is impossible in India



    Lt Gen Harwant Singh (retd)
    Chandigarh, April 12, 2012


    A national newspaper informs us that the movement of two army units in January towards Delhi sent alarm bells ringing at Raisina Hill. It seems like dramatic stuff, but besides dismissing the alarmist report, it is useful to briefly look at our military history to put the "troop movement"
    in context. When a para brigade from Agra was dispatched to the Maldives in 1988 to quell the coup there, there was unacceptable delay in its move. The brigade commander barely managed to retain his job. Again, during Operation Parakram in 2001-02, subsequent to the terrorist attack on Parliament, there was delay in mobilisation of troops.

    Since then greater stress has been laid on speedy mobilisation. Consequently, many units periodically mobilise under varying conditions.

    In this particular instance in January, mobilisation was being practised under foggy conditions which considerably slow down movement of convoys.

    The Indian Air Force (IAF) was not informed of the move of the para unit, so there was added reason for suspicion, it's been claimed. However, since the para unit was not going into IAF's Hindon airfield or embark the C-130J planes, the need to inform the IAF was not necessary.

    But this bit did add grist for the rumour mill. Together, these two units comprised not more than 1,000 men. Nearly 30,000 troops are stationed in Delhi cantonment and an equally large number come to the capital during the Army Day and Republic Day parades. There was, therefore, no reason to get paranoid on discovering an additional thousand soldiers 'marching' towards Delhi.

    It would appear that there is deep-seated suspicion of the military, harboured by the politico-bureaucratic combine. Intelligence agencies too must be providing periodic inputs on such, otherwise, inconsequential, military movements!

    Members of Parliament summoned the defence secretary and the vice-chief of the Army staff to explain the movement of troops towards the capital without notifying the ministry of defence. Replies of these two senior officials failed to allay fears of the members and at least two from the parliamentary standing committee on defence demanded that the Army chief be summoned before the panel.

    While defence minister AK Antony denied the report that the movement of army personnel towards the capital on the intervening night of January 16-17 was a breach of protocol, the Prime Minister observed that this report was "alarmist" and should not be taken at face value. The man at the centre of the storm, Army chief General VK Singh, has himself termed the report as "absurd". Yet none of them have denied the troop movement.

    Ajit Doval, former Intelligence Bureau director, has said that the agency is mandated to counter coups and "there are government instructions regarding troop movements near Delhi".

    The newspaper report also told us "lookouts" were activated, columns identified and tracked and contingency plans to delay their progress to Delhi put in place.

    The larger issue here is the suspicion that persists from the days of the first Prime Minister that the Indian army could and may stage a military coup and to that end contingency plans have been worked out.

    Why else should there be a protocol for the military to inform the ministry of defence on routine movement of troops towards the National Capital Region, systems of instituting checks to keep an eye on key formations and their commanders, particularly those in the southwestern region, and posting of 'lookouts' and plans to delay the columns.

    Putting barricades to delay army columns, in the event of a real coup, would be like throwing a banana peel to stop a road roller, and the defence secretary (and others) instead of summoning the director of military operations should rather be looking for a place to hide!

    Fortunately, the Indian military is completely apolitical with no ambitions other than to do its duty for the country in the best traditions of soldiering.

    Any one who harbours the fear of a military takeover in India needs early psychiatric help and a
    thorough check-up by a neurosurgeon. Keeping alive this fear and constantly sowing the seeds of suspicion in the minds of the political class, against the military, suits the bureaucracy and is one way to stifle the military.

    Such baseless stories do create suspicion and disaffection in the minds of the public against the military, which can create a different set of dangers.

    The unflinching loyalty of the military apart, no military coup is possible in a country of India's size where there would be no public support for such an act. It could be argued that the public is fed up with the all-pervasive and soul-destroying corruption along with the uncaring and inefficient government functioning.

    To this if socio-economic churning and people's rising (and unfulfilled) expectations are added, according to this theory, a revolution could be in the making - of which the military could take advantage.

    But the truth is much less dramatic: Indians have come to accept a certain level of corruption, crime and misgovernance, and that does not stop them from participating in electoral democracy.
    The Indian military is patriotic and inexorably loyal to the Constitution. So harbouring any suspicion of its loyalty and intentions is completely unjustified and reflective of a biased and mischievous mind.

    A country aspiring to be a great economic and military power, exert its influence in the region and globally and draw large investments from abroad cannot portray itself as living under the constant fear of a military coup.

    India is no banana republic where a military coup can manifest itself any time. The politico-bureaucratic mind needs to disabuse itself of the fear of a military coup and instead focus on strengthening the national security set-up.


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    Never say never - Some politicians are actually pushing their luck by treating the services the way they are....

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    Quote Originally Posted by COLDHEARTED AVIATOR View Post
    Fortunately, the Indian military is completely apolitical with no ambitions other than to do its duty for the country in the best traditions of soldiering.

    Any one who harbours the fear of a military takeover in India needs early psychiatric help and a thorough check-up by a neurosurgeon. Keeping alive this fear and constantly sowing the seeds of suspicion in the minds of the political class, against the military, suits the bureaucracy and is one way to stifle the military.


    The Indian military is patriotic and inexorably loyal to the Constitution. So harbouring any suspicion of its loyalty and intentions is completely unjustified and reflective of a biased and mischievous mind.


    India is no banana republic where a military coup can manifest itself any time. The politico-bureaucratic mind needs to disabuse itself of the fear of a military coup and instead focus on strengthening the national security set-up.

    Some meaningful lines comming from a soldier which should be kept in mind.
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    It is highly,highly, highly improbable- it could require the agreement of all 6 geographical command commanders as well as the IN and IAF Cheifs. the fact the Indian military takes an oath to uphold the Indian constitioun and protect the government and its institions- an oath they don't take lightly.
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    can someone pls answer my query as to how exactly a military coup takes place & why technically it is not possible in India or say other big countries like China, US etc.??

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    Quote Originally Posted by arp2041 View Post
    can someone pls answer my query as to how exactly a military coup takes place & why technically it is not possible in India or say other big countries like China, US etc.??
    Its got nothing to do with size It's not impossible in India, nothing is ever impossible but it is highly, highly, highly improbable due to the very nature of India and her armed forces. The fact is the Indian armed forces are notoriously apolitical and swear an oath to uphold the Indian democracy, their government and protect the constitution at all costs, this is a duty they take very seriously and would die before infringing. I'd say it was similar in the US- both are proffesional and motivated militaries, I can't really say the same about China to be honest.
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    actually a military coup is easier in a smaller country as they armed forces can take over and effectively control the workings of govt .
    but in a country of our size it would be next to impossible for them to so do , due to the sheer landmass they would have to control ,not to mention the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbgt90 View Post
    actually a military coup is easier in a smaller country as they armed forces can take over and effectively control the workings of govt .
    but in a country of our size it would be next to impossible for them to so do , due to the sheer landmass they would have to control ,not to mention the people.
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    n the Indian context what would need to happen in order for a coup to succes would be for military action to take control of NCR and oust incumbent civil administration. And simultaneously for the Army commands in the rest of the country to conduct shows of force in CBDs and state government centres (this is why all 6 regional commanders would need to be onboard). Thus it requires the cooperation of a vast amount of people who are true patriots to participate- which is highly unlikely IMO.

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    not impossible but highly unlikely...we do not have commander-in-chief(President is supreme commander but our grandma pratibhaji can't do it)...all three parts of military have equal power....

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    It is as much possible as it is in USA or UK.

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    Military coup is impossible in India considering the diversity of cultures. A COAS from one ethnicity or area might not be accepted by the people from other area.

    Heck I dont think even the Rajputs for example will accept a Jat COAS ruling them..

    India survives only because of democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abingdonboy View Post
    It is highly,highly, highly improbable- it could require the agreement of all 6 geographical command commanders as well as the IN and IAF Cheifs. the fact the Indian military takes an oath to uphold the Indian constitioun and protect the government and its institions- an oath they don't take lightly.
    I agree that it would require a broad approval from all six commands, but if the army do decide to stage a coup, the IAF and IN has virtually no role to play in it. Even if they don't agree, they do not command enough manpower to protect assets and conduct operations against the army. After all, you need boots on the ground to stage a coup, not ships or fighter jets.

    Quote Originally Posted by kingkobra View Post
    not impossible but highly unlikely...we do not have commander-in-chief(President is supreme commander but our grandma pratibhaji can't do it)...all three parts of military have equal power....
    Don't tell me you are taking the whole commander-in-chief thingy seriously. She has to take permission from 7 race course to take a fart, let alone command an army

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    anything is possible within a failed state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S_O_C_O_M View Post
    anything is possible within a failed state.
    yup tru, thats what happened in 1999 in a state that is pretty much failed right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S_O_C_O_M View Post
    anything is possible within a failed state.
    You are funny..why you making fun of your own country in an Indian thread..its uncalled for mate.


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