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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    It is just talk. The ENTIRE Indian nuclear arsenal is only about 1 megaton in total.

    Whereas even ONE single Chinese nuke is already 3-4 megatons by itself.
    When you know you have a bigger arsenal of nukes then its but obvious for your neighbours to be worried about. No country with such a large arsenal can be tagged as a peaceful or 'Not AGressive country'. Thus China shouldnt cry foul if it is blamed to be a threat to the peace in the region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    It is just talk. The ENTIRE Indian nuclear arsenal is only about 1 megaton in total.
    Whereas even ONE single Chinese nuclear warhead, is already 3-4 megatons by itself.
    Kudos for that! But minimum credible deterrance for causing unacceptable damage in second strike? That statement should allow you to guess what we hold. Analyse what is your limit of acceptable damage (how much hit can China take) add roughly 50% damage to it and estimate what is the nuclear yield required to achieve it and calculate the number of sub-kiloton and kiloton warheads required to achieve it. That shall be your answer for our stock holdings as of date. And remember you have to cater for Pakistan too at the same time because our calculations take into account intervention of China and Pakistan simultaneously with no backing for India from any quarter.

    Quote Originally Posted by roshangjha View Post
    Also, we could NUKE Burma, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and many other countries day and night without any fear of retaliation.
    Really? Interesting thought there from you. Any logic to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellfire View Post
    And remember you have to cater for Pakistan too at the same time because our calculations take into account intervention of China and Pakistan simultaneously with no backing for India from any quarter.
    Pakistan alone has a larger and faster growing nuclear arsenal than India does.

    And even worse for India, in the scenario of a nuclear war between India and Pakistan... India will have to hold at least 50% of it's nukes back, as an additional deterrent. Otherwise the PLA could simply roll down the Himalayas into a defenceless India.

    Pakistan on the other hand can simply fire all of their nukes at India without having to worry about witholding any at all.

    It doesn't help that the India-Pakistan border has the highest risk of nuclear war on the planet. As the Economist said, it is the "most dangerous border in the world."
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellfire View Post
    Really? Interesting thought there from you. Any logic to that?
    Yaar, please read the post properly. It is a reply to make the quoted person understand that just because WE CAN, its not necessary that WE WILL. In the same way, just because USA can, its not necessary that USA WILL.

    As for the logic, these countries simply do not have nukes and hence, we do not have to worry of their Nuclear Retaliation.

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    Default Re: US appreciates India closing missile gap with China

    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    Pakistan alone has a larger and faster growing nuclear arsenal than India does.

    And even worse for India, in the scenario of a nuclear war between India and Pakistan... India will have to hold at least 50% of it's nukes back as an additional deterrent. Otherwise the PLA could simply roll down the Himalayas into a now defenceless India.

    Pakistan on the other hand can simply fire all of their nukes at India without having to worry about witholding any at all.

    It doesn't help that the India-Pakistan border has the highest risk of nuclear war on the planet. As the Economist said, it is the "most dangerous border in the world."
    CD in any case i guess CPC is not been run by bunch of fools. In any case they arent going come running down the himalayas in any case for Pakistan. India has enough capabilities to cripple the economic structure of china. The gains post running down for PLA are far more short in comparison to sitting ducks.
    secondly with major international investments into india globally from nigeria to US no one would like their money go down the drain. not even the chinese themselves.

    such qualities are only in pakistanis not in chinese as we call in hindi doosre k fate main taang adana aka putting ur leg in someone else crap

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    Default Re: US appreciates India closing missile gap with China

    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    Pakistan alone has a larger and faster growing nuclear arsenal than India does.

    And even worse for India, in the scenario of a nuclear war between India and Pakistan... India will have to hold at least 50% of it's nukes back, as an additional deterrent. Otherwise the PLA could simply roll down the Himalayas into a defenceless India.

    Pakistan on the other hand can simply fire all of their nukes at India without having to worry about witholding any at all.

    It doesn't help that the India-Pakistan border has the highest risk of nuclear war on the planet. As the Economist said, it is the "most dangerous border in the world."
    And do you really think the world will enjoy having India ROLLED over. Do you really think that if China attacks India, we do not have any allies who will retaliate?

    Also, did you hear of the news where India has confirmed 49000 tonnes of high quality Uranium reserves? If not, go through the following link.

    49,000 tonnes uranium deposit in Andhra; may rise threefold - Economic Times



    Here's another interesting thought for you.

    India does not even need to fire half of its arsenal. Pakistan is too small to be bombed with 40-50 nuclear bombs. WE can turn the whole country to ASH in less than 10 bombs. The remaining can easily be used to deter China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    Pakistan alone has a larger and faster growing nuclear arsenal than India does.

    And even worse for India, in the scenario of a nuclear war between India and Pakistan... India will have to hold at least 50% of it's nukes back, as an additional deterrent. Otherwise the PLA could simply roll down the Himalayas into a defenceless India.

    Pakistan on the other hand can simply fire all of their nukes at India without having to worry about witholding any at all.

    It doesn't help that the India-Pakistan border has the highest risk of nuclear war on the planet. As the Economist said, it is the "most dangerous border in the world."
    Wrong ..5% nukes will destroy entire Pakistan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    Pakistan alone has a larger and faster growing nuclear arsenal than India does.
    Which tells you what? The inherent insecurity in a nation is being underlined by this fact. The fact that Pakistan is the only country in the world which professes a first strike publicly should leave no doubt about anything. The fact that India does not have that great an arsenal and neither is interested in same also shows that India has reached the level required for a two front employment!!! Try to understand what is being implied here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    And even worse for India, in the scenario of a nuclear war between India and Pakistan... India will have to hold at least 50% of it's nukes back, as an additional deterrent. Otherwise the PLA could simply roll down the Himalayas into a defenceless India.
    Again wrong. I am again telling you we(India) are formulated on a two front war and we have no doubts about it. And one that shall escalate into a nuclear war easily. On both fronts. And yet we are 'slow' in our increment of nuclear weapons stocks. What does that tell you? If you think we are daft enough to be slow after appreciation of this fact then I am happy. You are already underestimating us.

    The Indian nuclear weapons are actually under no one. The control is with civil per se but the building up is by team dedicated for it and integration is by SFC. So dont think we are even bothered. We have a credible holding for 'second strike' in scenario as exemplified above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    Pakistan on the other hand can simply fire all of their nukes at India without having to worry about witholding any at all.
    We expect employment of the same by Pakistan the moment we cross IB. Conventionally speaking Pakistan is no match so their nuclear threshold will be crossed in first few hours of war. We are very clear about it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese-Dragon View Post
    It doesn't help that the India-Pakistan border has the highest risk of nuclear war on the planet. As the Economist said, it is the "most dangerous border in the world."
    Dont worry the way you guys are going in Tibet we shall have Sino-Indian border being that now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roshangjha View Post
    And do you really think the world will enjoy having India ROLLED over.
    They didn't even intervene back in the 1960's when China was 100% Communist and alienated from the global system, and when we had both the USA and the USSR as our sworn enemies. Not to mention back then, when we were extremely weak as well.

    India pleaded for US help against China in 1962 - Times Of India

    If they wouldn't intervene against a weak 1960's China (despite being sworn enemies), why would they do so today?

    Today we are a strategic partner of Russia (we co-founded the SCO with them, and double-veto with them in the UNSC)... as well as being the number one trading partner and banker of America, the same America who proposed forming a "G-2" with us.

    We are now a big part of the global system, and sit on the global high table (P5). If they didn't want to do it back then, what chance do you have of being rescued now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roshangjha View Post
    As for the logic, these countries simply do not have nukes and hence, we do not have to worry of their Nuclear Retaliation.
    What about the prevailing wind patterns?

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    Default Re: US appreciates India closing missile gap with China

    I thought Obama just sent a letter to MMS to start bombing Shanghai. The same old TOI. MUHAHAHAH

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    Quote Originally Posted by iajdani View Post
    I thought Obama just sent a letter to MMS to start bombing Shanghai. The same old TOI. MUHAHAHAH
    ehh, obama will send mms to MMS, no letters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Sachin View Post
    Wrong ..5% nukes will destroy entire Pakistan...
    whats 5%? any number? how did you calculate it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Great Sachin View Post
    Wrong ..5% nukes will destroy entire Pakistan...
    You will need at least five of your 20kt fission bombs to even destroy a large city.

    Check the detonation radius of a 20kt fission bomb, and then check the radius of any medium or large city in the world. The difference is massive.

    Like I said, one single Chinese nuke is 3-4 megatons, more than the entire Indian arsenal combined.


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