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    When four Indian naval ships left the Philippines earlier this month headed for South Korea, they received an unexpected message.

    “Welcome to the South China Sea, Foxtrot-47,” buzzed a People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) frigate to the INS Shivalik (F47).

    For the next 12 hours, the Chinese warship would provide an unscheduled escort to the four Indian vessels. The PLAN frigate was aware that the four ships were also going to visit Shanghai later in the month during their month-long tour; yet that they insisted on providing an escort through what India and other countries view as international waters underscored for officials how Beijing increasingly views one of the world’s most important waterways.
    “The tone of the message was welcoming, but was also as though we were entering Chinese waters,” said an official who did not want to be named. The Chinese ship left the Shivalik’s side after 12 hours, revealing that it had been instructed to move away by the PLAN.

    After port calls in Singapore, Vietnam, the Philippines, South Korea and Japan, the four Indian Navy ships arrived here on Wednesday, berthing in the famous Shanghai harbour under the shadow of the distinct skyline of Pudong, the financial district.

    The month-long travels of the four ships, led by the indigenously built guided missile stealth frigate Shivalik, have reflected India’s increasing interest in protecting its maritime interests in the Asia-Pacific, coming amid rising tensions between China and many of its neighbours over the disputed waters and islands of the South China Sea.

    Delayed policy

    “India’s Look East policy was delayed for many years,” acknowledged Vice-Admiral Anil Chopra, Flag Officer Commanding in Chief of the Eastern Naval Command, who came in from India for the port calls in China and Japan, signalling the particular importance of the two countries.

    “We were not here extending our hand of friendship to all the nations, so some years ago we consciously decided that we must participate and cooperate more with all nations to the east of India,” he said, describing the visit as “an attempt to bring peace and stability to the region to our east.”

    Building navy-to-navy ties with China is the focus of the Shanghai stop, which, officials said, marked the biggest-ever such exercise with China. Two ships from the eastern fleet visited the northern port of Qingdao in 2007, but officials viewed the stop in Shanghai, China’s most important port city, as being of greater significance.

    Both countries will this year hold a first-ever maritime dialogue, and have also stepped up coordination in joint anti-piracy exercises in the Gulf of Aden in the Indian Ocean. But renewed tensions in the South China Sea, where Chinese ships are in a stand-off with the Philippines at the Scarborough Shoal and have had run-ins with Vietnamese vessels, have emerged as a new challenge with competing interests over a crucial international waterway.

    With the naval ships making ports of call in Vietnam and the Philippines — two countries with which China has had recent strains — the Vice-Admiral stressed that India’s “relationships are not at the cost of anybody else” and that there were no “specific reasons” for the port calls. India supported “freedom of navigation in all waters in the seven seas,” he said, and believed bilateral issues between nations “should be resolved peacefully as per international law and international maritime law.”

    Over four days, he will have talks with the head of the Chinese eastern fleet and the Shanghai garrison. “It is only by exchange and interaction with each other will we be able to get more cooperation, more trust, more friendship between the two nations and their navies,” he said, adding India welcomed more Chinese vessels to make visits this year following last month’s port of call by the PLAN’s Zheng He in Kochi.

    New carrier next year

    Asked by a Chinese journalist about on-going trials of the new aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya and whether it would be deployed in the Asia-Pacific, the Vice-Admiral said the new carrier “will come by next year.” “For an aircraft carrier, by virtue of its capability, it does not matter at which side it is based because it has a long freedom of action and it can be deployed in any place,” he said.

    Rear Admiral P. Ajit Kumar, Flag Officers Commanding Eastern Fleet (FOCEF), who led the four ships, hoped four days of interactions would be “fruitful” and he had been received warmly by the PLAN. “Interactions will enhance mutual understanding and friendship,” PLAN Rear Admiral Shen Hao told him. “You being here is a friendly statement.”

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    Default Re: In South China Sea, a surprise Chinese escort for Indian ships

    let see how it goes.

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    Default Re: In South China Sea, a surprise Chinese escort for Indian ships

    The news means that the Navy has full aware of what's going on in it's front yard and is glad to be the provider of peace and order in the region.
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    this was some good gesture shown by china.improved relations will be good for both countries and especially india can benefit from china's technological advances in various fields
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    Default Re: In South China Sea, a surprise Chinese escort for Indian ships

    Both side have shown their professional way of dealing with opposite side..
    Lets hope, they come out with something good.
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    Default Re: In South China Sea, a surprise Chinese escort for Indian ships

    INDIA ships are welcomed than USAN

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    indians are feeling so inferior because Chinese warships intercepted them and "escorted" them. Sort of like "offering hospitality" instead of house arrest.

    Indian Navy in South China Sea: Beijing’s unwelcome escort - Indian Express

    According to reports from Shanghai, when the Indian naval squadron led by ‘INS Shivalik’ was on its way to South Korea from the Philippines, the People’s Liberation Army Navy provided an unwanted escort.

    Although the Indian ships were in international waters, a Chinese frigate sent a message “welcoming” the contingent to the South China Sea and sailed along for the next 12 hours.

    Last September, it might be recalled, a caller identifying himself as representing the Chinese navy told the Indian naval squadron sailing off the Vietnamese coast that it was in China’s territorial waters.

    The unwelcome escort this year reflects the PLAN’s hardening attitude to India’s naval presence in South China Sea. Indian navy has been flying the flag in these waters since 2000.

    The PLAN’s challenge to India was presented in a typical and exquisite Chinese style. In ‘welcoming’ and ‘escorting’ the Indian naval unit, the PLAN was showing India its velvet covered fist.

    The message is this: “nice to see you here, but you are in our territorial waters and within them there is no right to ‘freedom of navigation’ for military vessels. You are here at our sufferance.”

    In a well-calibrated escalation, Beijing is testing India’s rhetoric on ‘freedom of navigation’ and the political will in Delhi to defend its proclaimed rights in the South China Sea and sustain a forward naval presence in the Western Pacific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinoChallenger View Post
    indians are feeling so inferior because Chinese warships intercepted them and "escorted" them. Sort of like "offering hospitality" instead of house arrest.

    Indian Navy in South China Sea: Beijing’s unwelcome escort - Indian Express

    According to reports from Shanghai, when the Indian naval squadron led by ‘INS Shivalik’ was on its way to South Korea from the Philippines, the People’s Liberation Army Navy provided an unwanted escort.

    Although the Indian ships were in international waters, a Chinese frigate sent a message “welcoming” the contingent to the South China Sea and sailed along for the next 12 hours.

    Last September, it might be recalled, a caller identifying himself as representing the Chinese navy told the Indian naval squadron sailing off the Vietnamese coast that it was in China’s territorial waters.

    The unwelcome escort this year reflects the PLAN’s hardening attitude to India’s naval presence in South China Sea. Indian navy has been flying the flag in these waters since 2000.

    The PLAN’s challenge to India was presented in a typical and exquisite Chinese style. In ‘welcoming’ and ‘escorting’ the Indian naval unit, the PLAN was showing India its velvet covered fist.

    The message is this: “nice to see you here, but you are in our territorial waters and within them there is no right to ‘freedom of navigation’ for military vessels. You are here at our sufferance.”

    In a well-calibrated escalation, Beijing is testing India’s rhetoric on ‘freedom of navigation’ and the political will in Delhi to defend its proclaimed rights in the South China Sea and sustain a forward naval presence in the Western Pacific.


    lol..they mentioned "welcome to SCS",not "welcome to China or Chinese water or water body governed by China or something like that..".. so,your perception is wrong..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinoChallenger View Post
    indians are feeling so inferior because Chinese warships intercepted them and "escorted" them. Sort of like "offering hospitality" instead of house arrest.

    Indian Navy in South China Sea: Beijing’s unwelcome escort - Indian Express

    According to reports from Shanghai, when the Indian naval squadron led by ‘INS Shivalik’ was on its way to South Korea from the Philippines, the People’s Liberation Army Navy provided an unwanted escort.

    Although the Indian ships were in international waters, a Chinese frigate sent a message “welcoming” the contingent to the South China Sea and sailed along for the next 12 hours.

    Last September, it might be recalled, a caller identifying himself as representing the Chinese navy told the Indian naval squadron sailing off the Vietnamese coast that it was in China’s territorial waters.

    The unwelcome escort this year reflects the PLAN’s hardening attitude to India’s naval presence in South China Sea. Indian navy has been flying the flag in these waters since 2000.

    The PLAN’s challenge to India was presented in a typical and exquisite Chinese style. In ‘welcoming’ and ‘escorting’ the Indian naval unit, the PLAN was showing India its velvet covered fist.

    The message is this: “nice to see you here, but you are in our territorial waters and within them there is no right to ‘freedom of navigation’ for military vessels. You are here at our sufferance.”

    In a well-calibrated escalation, Beijing is testing India’s rhetoric on ‘freedom of navigation’ and the political will in Delhi to defend its proclaimed rights in the South China Sea and sustain a forward naval presence in the Western Pacific.
    Ya comedian... One ship house arresting 4 naval ships... Never heard of such a strategy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajaraja Chola View Post
    Ya comedian... One ship house arresting 4 naval ships... Never heard of such a strategy

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinoChallenger View Post
    indians are feeling so inferior because Chinese warships intercepted them and "escorted" them. Sort of like "offering hospitality" instead of house arrest.

    Indian Navy in South China Sea: Beijing’s unwelcome escort - Indian Express

    According to reports from Shanghai, when the Indian naval squadron led by ‘INS Shivalik’ was on its way to South Korea from the Philippines, the People’s Liberation Army Navy provided an unwanted escort.

    Although the Indian ships were in international waters, a Chinese frigate sent a message “welcoming” the contingent to the South China Sea and sailed along for the next 12 hours.

    Last September, it might be recalled, a caller identifying himself as representing the Chinese navy told the Indian naval squadron sailing off the Vietnamese coast that it was in China’s territorial waters.

    The unwelcome escort this year reflects the PLAN’s hardening attitude to India’s naval presence in South China Sea. Indian navy has been flying the flag in these waters since 2000.

    The PLAN’s challenge to India was presented in a typical and exquisite Chinese style. In ‘welcoming’ and ‘escorting’ the Indian naval unit, the PLAN was showing India its velvet covered fist.

    The message is this: “nice to see you here, but you are in our territorial waters and within them there is no right to ‘freedom of navigation’ for military vessels. You are here at our sufferance.”

    In a well-calibrated escalation, Beijing is testing India’s rhetoric on ‘freedom of navigation’ and the political will in Delhi to defend its proclaimed rights in the South China Sea and sustain a forward naval presence in the Western Pacific.
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    Hope relationships with China improves with time and both sides show maturity and think about future aspects for themselves and the region.

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    India and china both have mature and responsible leaderships and good diplomatic skills. i would be surprised if they ever let it get to a point where an armed conflict is required. both understand its counterproductive and not in their best interest . so while we see posturing on both sides . i doubt it will come to all out war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbgt90 View Post
    India and china both have mature and responsible leaderships and good diplomatic skills. i would be surprised if they ever let it get to a point where an armed conflict is required. both understand its counterproductive and not in their best interest . so while we see posturing on both sides . i doubt it will come to all out war.
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    I really hope there is a healthy if not a very friendly relationship between India and China. These days when individuals do not get along, friction between countries is not uncommon. As long as it does not get out of hand, it's all good.


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