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    F-18, Mirage 2000-V on IAF radar

    20 October 2005: Without anything definite, the Indian Air Force is still seriously considering a mix of Boeing F-18s and Dassault Mirage 2000-Vs to meet its projected requirement of one-hundred-and-twenty-six fighter aircraft to replace its ageing fleet of MiG-21s, although the request for proposal has gone to these companies, as well as to Sweden’s Saab for Gripen and Russia’s MiG.

    The F-18 in a naval role would fit the Gorshkov deal, because the US carrier-based aircraft fought very well in Afghanistan in late 2001, and Boeing has offered to outsource its spares’ production in India, which can also be exported to other users, and France is ready for transferring Mirage 2000-V technology in addition to buying spares license-produced here.

    The Russian defence minister, Sergei Ivanov, who was a guest of honour at the recent Indo-Russian joint military exercises, offered to produce a new generation of MiGs in India, but the IAF is cool to the idea of an aircraft that does not even exist, and the defence establishment is looking for warplanes which could at least partly fulfill some of this country’s power projection needs.

    Sources said that the US is not very readily offering the F-18, but could bend if India pressures, assuming it is satisfied that they won’t be ever sanctioned, while France has stated clearly that Mirage 2000-V is unsanctionable, and that if the entire spares are outsourced here, this country would hold a whip hand, but in looking at the US and France together, this country is leveraging relations with them simultaneously.

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    Now they are unsatisfied with F-18s and expect U.S to transfer its technology to them. Mixing Mirages and F-18 would be most horrible thing IAF would have done. The maintainance of different fighters will be higher than buying just one aircraft.

    However, the advantages are on weaponry, they will be getting high tech American technology i think AESA will be provided with F-18 since it is a requirement of Super Hornet, with Mirage they will also be getting latest French technology which are also in Rafale.

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    Oh mighty might! Awake awake from your slumber! Awake! Awake! Awake!

    :-) Just found it funny to reactivate one of the first threads in Indian section of PDF!
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    haha guests could post back then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acetophenol View Post
    Oh mighty might! Awake awake from your slumber! Awake! Awake! Awake!

    :-) Just found it funny to reactivate one of the first threads in Indian section of PDF!
    this thread is 5-6 years old dude !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by king cobra View Post
    this thread is 5-6 years old dude !!!
    Thread opened in 2005.

    Today is 2013.

    This thread is 5-6 years old ?!

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    got my breath back, thought this is one of those "MMRCA deal not going anywhere" thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koovie View Post
    Thread opened in 2005.

    Today is 2013.

    This thread is 5-6 years old ?!
    8 years dude.

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    so finally US bent for Indian Pressure .

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    Close obsolete thread ffs.

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    so finally US bent for Indian Pressure .
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldfire2005 View Post
    F-18, Mirage 2000-V on IAF radar

    20 October 2005: Without anything definite, the Indian Air Force is still seriously considering a mix of Boeing F-18s and Dassault Mirage 2000-Vs to meet its projected requirement of one-hundred-and-twenty-six fighter aircraft to replace its ageing fleet of MiG-21s, although the request for proposal has gone to these companies, as well as to Sweden’s Saab for Gripen and Russia’s MiG.

    The F-18 in a naval role would fit the Gorshkov deal, because the US carrier-based aircraft fought very well in Afghanistan in late 2001, and Boeing has offered to outsource its spares’ production in India, which can also be exported to other users, and France is ready for transferring Mirage 2000-V technology in addition to buying spares license-produced here.

    The Russian defence minister, Sergei Ivanov, who was a guest of honour at the recent Indo-Russian joint military exercises, offered to produce a new generation of MiGs in India, but the IAF is cool to the idea of an aircraft that does not even exist, and the defence establishment is looking for warplanes which could at least partly fulfill some of this country’s power projection needs.

    Sources said that the US is not very readily offering the F-18, but could bend if India pressures, assuming it is satisfied that they won’t be ever sanctioned, while France has stated clearly that Mirage 2000-V is unsanctionable, and that if the entire spares are outsourced here, this country would hold a whip hand, but in looking at the US and France together, this country is leveraging relations with them simultaneously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tvsram1992 View Post
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    And your conclusion is that the US bent? Even though no sale took place? "Could bend" became "bent", even though the sale in question did not happen, as we know now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by janon View Post
    And your conclusion is that the US bent? Even though no sale took place? "Could bend" became "bent", even though the sale in question did not happen, as we know now?

    I have the proper source for my words ie this thread , if you had read it properly instead of searching for your images , you could have perhaps understood that it uses the word 'bent' for US offering the F18 itself , not India buying the plane .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvsram1992 View Post
    I have the proper source for my words ie this thread , if you had read it properly instead of searching for your images , you could have perhaps understood that it uses the word 'bent' for US offering the F18 itself , not India buying the plane .
    Yep. USA bent, India emerged victorious. Good for you.


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