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India considers tandem MMRCA radar competition
The Indian Air Force (IAF) may run a separate radar competition in tandem with its Medium-Multirole Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) programme, Russian industry sources have...
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Which are the things going to hamper full TOT with SH and Viper.
One of them is Radar- Apg 79 or Apg 80 both will not come with TOT.
I dont think americans and russians will be willing for TOT...
Only Rafale or Typhoon are offering...
that to the offer from Typhoon seems more attractive as they are offering partnership in the program.
PS: It is important to note that some companies might provide so called "full ToT" but that has no use for IAF!!! It might help DRDO but why should IAF care about DRDO? Shouldn't they go for the best platform of the lot?!
Frankly, I don't think IAF requires technology for AESA. DRDO is already working on a domestic fighter AESA system (with modules being imported ofcourse as we do not have a fab for the same - RFI has been sent). What IAF requires is the source codes for future integration of weapons independent of the americans. That's where the problem (and maybe the solution) lies! So I am afraid, "full" ToT may not be interpreted here in the right context!
We have been partner....
Russians are providing engines to chineese companies who are fitting rissuan engines into JF17.
This shows they consider India have been just a buyer to their technology.
this is the reason why india have opened doors for other technology providers.
India is the only country which have access to all major technologies in the world including Americans Russians French and Israil.
this makes Indian Military unique and adaptable...
well Indian can chose
Rafael and f18
typhoon and f18
order should be in two companies not to a single one
Why is every one underestimating the Mig-35??????????
Look what all sort of problems we faced when Mig29 arrived firstly.
Our engines got down after every 2-3 sortie bcoz FOD foreign object damage and guess what they had to be sent back to russia .
Bcoz we didnt have related tot to take up engine repair or manufacturing in india itself.
Similar thing we faced in earlier su30k also ,
do you remember same thing said by US col after Red flag interview , video which created controversy and was removed later on.
He said same thing abt engine problems and being sent to russia, bcoz till then su30 were not 100% built in india. FOD ws the factor envolved
Suppose US dosent provide us tot of Engines - what will happen then ;whole fleet will be under danger once any problem erupts and we would have to sent parts to either Australia/US for repair. It dosent matter what was said in req/or Boeing is meeting all req as per Rfp
IAF dosent want that situation thats why req in RFP on first priority will be full TOT.
Regarding Radar - Just bcoz Aesa dont have Moving Antenae dosent mean they wont get damaged and what then???????.
For just changing LRU-replacable units which is a matter of hours sending to US will consume weeks.
And i dont buy the fact that Europens wont be able to build Radar upto US level,
I personally oppose Europe bcoz they wont get in time and price is a question otherwise if given money and time till 2013-2014 they would definately deliver Aesa Equivalent to US level.
I mean a 1200 micro array AESA not a 600 mmic what Russia / Us is offering.
Last edited by KEETARP; 03-05-2010 at 03:47 PM.
My assertion is that all that matters is for the vendors to fulfill the "requirements". If downgraded equipment does that, there is nothing wrong with it! Ofcourse, it is for the IAF to decide what they should go for. But more often than not, Americans come up with very good technologies at their disposal and the end result is well known. Case to point include P-8I (which is different from the P-8A) but still trumped russian and European systems!
Mig 35 for example offers only ToT of the upg RD 33 that HAL already produces and knows and compared to western engines, the Russians aren't on par anyway. The only useful ToT from them imo, would be AESA radar and from OLS, but that alone doesn't equalise all its disadvantages.
That is why they now searching for a foreign partner for a JV. Even the MMR wasn't developed alone, so I guess that's makes clear that we are still far away from catching up China, Russia or western nations and why we need any ToT, JV, or co-development we can get to improve ourself.
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