Faulty Indian Radars helped Tigers

[PakSniper]

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Faulty radar helped Tigers?

Wednesday, 28 March 2007 - 6:15 AM SL Time
Speculation is that LTTE aircraft which carried out Monday`s attack on the Katunayake airbase survived some 400 km of flying distance and that too at night due to deficiencies in the SLAF radar.

Initial investigations revealed that the first generation radar installed by India failed to detect the incoming aircraft until the radar at the adjacent Bandaranaike International Airport identified them.

`The detection was made as the aircraft were about 3 kms off the airbase,` a senior defence official said.

Had the SLAF radar spotted the intruders, the outcome of Monday`s encounter would have been different, he said.

Before the detection by BIA radar, the SLAF had received information about the LTTE aircraft crossing the northern-line-of-control through ground based sources. But the intended target was not specified until the BIA radar picked the enemy craft approaching the airbase.

The government on Monday discussed ways and means of meeting the new threat. The Island learns that that the government raised the issue with the Indian High Commission on Monday. Sri Lankan officials are believed to have explained the urgent need to fully activate the existing system.

Although three of the four radars promised by India are in place, there are believed to be operational problems. The fourth is likely to be installed in the northern theatre. Sri Lanka wants India to fully activate the system on a priority basis.

India stepped in with an offer to establish a radar network after President Chandrika Kumaratunga`s government initiated talks with China to acquire a 3D radar system. Former Indian High Commissioner Nirupama Rao, currently New Delhi`s top envoy is believed to have initiated the move on behalf of her government as India had national security concerns.

The Island learns that President Mahinda Rajapakse is likely to seek a meeting with Rao`s successor Alok Prasad in this regard. The unprecedented attack has prompted the government to review the existing counter measures on a priority basis.

President Rajapakse called an urgent meeting with political party leaders to brief them of the current situation.

Although the LTTE scored a huge propaganda victory, LTTE aircraft failed to hit the intended targets-Israeli built Kfirs and Ukrainian MIG 27s. SLAF headquarters said that two of the three bombs dropped by the LTTE exploded causing damages to three buildings.

Pro-LTTE TamilNet quoted unnamed airmen as saying that several SLAF jet bombers were put out of action by fierce fires which broke out in the hangars struck by the LTTE aircraft. Up to 40% of the SLAF`s strike capability has been knocked out, the website reported.

SLAF headquarters yesterday emphasised that the LTTE attack did not dent its strike capability. `All Kfirs and the newly acquired MIG 27s are safe,` an official said. `They missed their targets,` he said, adding, `We would continue to take targets depending on the requirement.`

Kfirs and MIG 27s launched from Katunayake engaged five LTTE targets on Monday afternoon and yesterday.

Aircraft targeted LTTE positions north of Mannar, Mullaitivu, Kanagarayankulam and South of Thoppigala. The SLAF said that an LTTE intelligence base and a Sea Tiger facility were among the targets taken.

A senior government official yesterday contradicted B. Raman, former head of Research and Analysis Wing who claimed that the LTTE air wing had been in existence for nine years without the Sri Lankan intelligence having the least idea about its location and capability.

Raman, a former Additional Secretary of the Cabinet of India made the declaration hours after the terrorist attack. Sri Lankan sources pointed out the absurdity in Raman`s assertion. He conveniently ignored that India installed radars after Sri Lanka sought to deploy an advanced Chinese early warning system.

The sources emphasized that Sri Lanka sought the Chinese help after obtaining credible information about the existence of the LTTE air wing. The sources revealed that Sri Lanka also briefed permanent members of the UN Security Council plus India of the growing threat posed by the LTTE air wing in early 2005. In fact, a comprehensive dossier which included even a short footage obtained by Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) of the `LTTE assets` was made available to the big five-US, Russia, China, UK and France and India. The sources said that this was done at the highest level as Foreign Minister Lakshman Kadirgamar correctly assessed the threat. According to a senior official Sri Lanka`s action was in line with US Security Council Resolution 1373.

In the wake of the 11 September 2001 Al Qaeda attack in the US, the UN Security Council unanimously adopted resolution 1373, which, among its provisions, obliges all States to criminalize assistance for terrorist activities, deny financial support and safe haven to terrorists and share information about groups planning terrorist attacks.

The 15-member Counter-Terrorism Committee (CTC) was established at the same time to monitor implementation of the resolution. While the ultimate aim of the Committee is to increase the ability of States to fight terrorism, it is not a sanctions body nor does it maintain a list of terrorist organizations or individuals.

Sri Lanka believes that LTTE is in pocession of a few aircraft possibly Pilatus PC-7, Pilatus PC-21 and Zlin Z 143. The sources said that India was the first to receive the dossier on the LTTE attempts to build an air wing.

http://www.lankanewspapers.com/news/2007/3/13386.html

India made radars blamed for LTTE air raid

PK Balachandran

Colombo, March 28, 2007|12:05 IST
A leading pro-government Sri Lankan newspaper has blamed Indian-made radars for the non-detection of the LTTE aircraft which bombarded the Air Force's main base at Katunayake, north of Colombo on Monday.

"Initial investigations revealed that the first generation radar installed by India failed to detect the incoming aircraft until the radar at the adjacent Bandranaike International Airport identified them," said The Island daily's defence correspondent Shamindra Ferdinando, in a front page lead story on Wednesday.

The report said that the Indian radars with the Sri Lankan Air Force had operational problems and presumably not functioning at the time of the attack.

By the time the international civil airport picked up the intruders on its radar, it was too late, because the invaders were just 3 kms from the airbase then.

"Had the SLAF radar spotted the intruders, the outcome of Monday's encounter would have been different," the paper quoted an un-named official as saying.

The Island said that the issue of the non-functioning of the Indian radars was taken up with the Indian High Commission in Colombo on Monday itself.

When Chandrika Kumaratunga was President, she had wanted to buy the more advanced 3D radars from China. But the then Indian High Commissioner, Nirupama Rao, had intervened and said that India had security considerations, and therefore India would supply radars for Colombo's defence, the paper said.

And Kumaratunga had no option but to agree.

President Mahinda Rajapaksa would seek a meeting with Nirupama Rao's successor, Alok Prasad, in this regard, the paper said.

"The unprecedented attack (on the airbase)has prompted the government to review the existing counter measures on a priority basis," it added.

Hindustantimes.com

[Awesome]

That's the thing, Indians are screwing the lankans over. There was so much of talk about Pakistani duds beings sold to the lankans before. But I spose only a few of the bombs might have been duds, but here we have an entire radar system incapable of detecting LTTE aircraft.

It's not that Indians can't do it right, it's just that they are purposely not doing it right.

[Adux]

That's the thing, Indians are screwing the lankans over. There was so much of talk about Pakistani duds beings sold to the lankans before. But I spose only a few of the bombs might have been duds, but here we have an entire radar system incapable of detecting LTTE aircraft.

It's not that Indians can't do it right, it's just that they are purposely not doing it right.

There might be something to it, Asim, and I agree it is a possibility.

Two factors plays against it.

1. Sonia Gandhi whose Husband Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by LTTE would never let LTTE go scot free, Indian support has changed.

2. I feel they are trying to cover up their incompetence, just that they never expected it to be LTTE Airforce fighter, I am sure the Radar at a Major International Airport can pick up a Light Aircarft. They just didnt expect to be Harmful.

[Keysersoze]

There might be something to it, Asim, and I agree it is a possibility.

Two factors plays against it.

1. Sonia Gandhi whose Husband Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by LTTE would never let LTTE go scot free, Indian support has changed.

2. I feel they are trying to cover up their incompetence, just that they never expected it to be LTTE Airforce fighter, I am sure the Radar at a Major International Airport can pick up a Light Aircarft. They just didnt expect to be Harmful.

Just as a point of fact commercial radars are pretty much transponders rather than radars in the true sense.

[Goodperson]

But any country buys radar's only if its meets its criteria, all such equipment undergo deployment/acceptance testing, No country buys faulty critical equipments like Radar's even if its given as free as part of Aid package. Also their are periodic checks done every year to check the functioning of equipment.
Here certainly their was a lapse on Sri Lanka's part which was exploited by LTTE.

[Adux]

Just as a point of fact commercial radars are pretty much transponders rather than radars in the true sense.

Yes agreed, The aircraft wasnt any radar evading stealth, it was a Czech LZC

[Adux]

But any country buys radar's only if its meets its criteria, all such equipment undergo deployment/acceptance testing, No country buys faulty critical equipments like Radar's even if its given as free as part of Aid package. Also their are periodic checks done every year to check the functioning of equipment.
Here certainly their was a lapse on Sri Lanka's part which was exploited by LTTE.

I dont know wether it was a lapse, rather an unexpected revlation of the real bad kind,In most countries those kind of planes wouldnt have set of a military alarm, they would think it is some civilian aircarft gone, astray

[Contrarian]

India no longer supports LTTE. I cannot say whether GoI is now actively supporting Sri Lankan govt or not.

[con]

Amazing they themselves say the system is not fully activated and then blame them for not detecting. After the bombing they let the propeller aircraft get away and then look out for a scapegoat...

[zeus]

Srilankan military had informed about movement of aircrafts a 1 hour ago to srilankan air force and they didn't do anything ,either they intercepted the aircraft or did they took information given early for any use and now they are blaming a radar which was not at all functional ,seems like the air base was least protected

[Adux]

Srilankan military had informed about movement of aircrafts a 1 hour ago to srilankan air force and they didn't do anything ,either they intercepted the aircraft or did they took information given early for any use and now they are blaming a radar which was not at all functional ,seems like the air base was least protected

I dont think they expected it.

[PakSniper]

Srilankan military had informed about movement of aircrafts a 1 hour ago to srilankan air force and they didn't do anything ,either they intercepted the aircraft or did they took information given early for any use and now they are blaming a radar which was not at all functional ,seems like the air base was least protected

Can you provide source about this 1 Hr before thing? Cause I would take what you said with a pinch of salt.

[kidwaibhai]

It might not be india's or Sri lanka's falt. I looked at the aircraft or the supposed bomber it was a civilian aircraft they might have thought that it was a civilian plane trying to land. From what i gather it is also a civilian airport that they use for the airforce. Plz let us also take underconsideration that the sri lankans dont have the advanced equipment that India and Pakistan have.

[WebMaster]

But they have the capability deal with it. Defence Ministry and Military Establishments were surpised by this pathetic response.

[Srirangan]

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I wish the Lankans had not turned off the RADARs. Media misinformation at its best.