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    By By Afshain Afzal
    Quite recently, it was reported that Chinese Navy ships visited Indian port of Cochin to impress upon Indian strategists that New Delhi is no match to Chinese military might. Many Indian strategists and analysts consider that Chinese presence in the Indian Ocean is a warning to Indian Navy that Chinese can show their presence every where.

    It is being feared that with seven destinations to support China including in Maldives, Bangladesh, Burma, Sri Lanka, Indonesia and Pakistan, India stands no where. Indian Chief of the Naval Staff, Admiral Nirmal Kumar Verma is also scheduled to visit Sri Lanka shortly to improve defence ties and keep China off Sri Lanka. It is one record that Indian former Defence Minister, George Fernandez claimed that India’s Enemy No.1 was China and not Pakistan. If we link the presence of Chinese Navy in Indian Ocean, the claim of George Fernandez seems true but is it so? The western powers are furnishing intelligence input to New Delhi that China is planning to wage a war and destabilize India to gain supremacy in Asia. The fears and apprehensions need to be analyzed in its true perspective.

    It is interesting to note that Commander in Chief of Israeli Navy, Vice Admiral Elizer Marom, who visited India in January this year and US Navy Admiral Gary Roughead, Chief of Naval Operations (CNO) who visited India in April this year before the annual Indo-U.S Malabar exercise, warned New Delhi about Chinese designs against India.

    It is true that China is much superior militarily as compared to India but it does not mean that Peking intends invading India or disintegrating it into smaller independent states. A recent article on Dragon’s plan to split India in many parts appeared in the media.

    There was a lot of hue and cry in the Indian political and intellectual circles about the Chinese intensions but should we take media articles so seriously? It is a bitter fact that there is a dispute between India and China over Arunachal Pradesh and part of Jammu and Kashmir state that Pakistan gifted China in 1962 but things are not so serious. India must realize the fact that China is a mature country and would not get instigated on western provocation. It is responsibility of the Indian politicians and other pressure groups not to push China to an extant that there is no option but to get hostile.

    Former Indian Army Chief and other senior officer of Indian Armed Forces claimed to be capable to tackle both China and Pakistan at the same time. However, the fact cannot be denied that Indian Navy and the Air Force are two institutions that require much attention. It was Jawaharlal Nehru who said, “If you wish to be secure on land, you should have supremacy on the sea” but probably there is a strong lobby in India who is bent upon failing the desire of Jawaharlal Nehru to come true.

    The corruption in Indian navy and Indian Air Force has made many Indian to think that India can never become Navy and Air power in the region. The kickback and percentage has become pet words for the Indian Defence, Naval and Air Attaches posted at various Indian Embassies throughout the world. Former Indian Navy Chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta has been quoted to have said, “In military terms, both conventionally and unconventionally, we can neither have the capability nor the intention to match China.

    He said that it is foolhardy to say India is equal to China militarily. India is no match for China whether it is Air Force, Navy or Army.

    Indian interference in Xiang province and Tibet is what western countries openly projects but the fact cannot be denied that US Presidents including President Barack Hussain Obama had been holding confidential meetings with Dalai Lama and citizens of Xiang. There is also no truth in the claim that China is aiding Maoist to destabilize India. Both India and China need to realize that there is a western plot to destabilize Asia region by creating difference between the major powers in this region. China is a big country but there is no naval built-up against India or any other country in the region.

    However, Indian military built-up near the Line of Actual Control (LAC) and Line of Control (LoC), on the instigation of western powers might turn into matter of concern. Western nations including US, Britain and Israel are furnishing wrong information through third countries to Beijing, New Delhi and Islamabad to make them suspicious against each other. It is understood that once tension is heightened, the chances of full fledge war would automatically increase.

    It is in the interest of all the countries of the region, especially China, India and Pakistan to shun their difference and work with perfect harmony for joint defence of Indian Ocean as well as land and sky. Once this is achieved, no one would be able to stop development and peace from reigning in the region.


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    It is not a threat in the sense that China will attack and destroy India. But it is a threat in almost every other sense.
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    Indian interference in Xiang province and Tibet is what western countries openly projects but the fact cannot be denied that US Presidents including President Barack Hussain Obama had been holding confidential meetings with Dalai Lama and citizens of Xiang. There is also no truth in the claim that China is aiding Maoist to destabilize India. Both India and China need to realize that there is a western plot to destabilize Asia region by creating difference between the major powers in this region. China is a big country but there is no naval built-up against India or any other country in the region.
    How is India interfering in issues of Tibet and Xiang ?

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    However, Indian military built-up near the Line of Actual Control (LAC) and Line of Control (LoC), on the instigation of western powers might turn into matter of concern.
    The article itself says that Indian forces can be no match to Chinese forces so why the fuss when India develops its defense.

    anybody who knows how India's NE border can tell

    1. Construction of roads is to increase mobility. We had not even constructed roads there lol (So much for planning our aggression on China)

    2. Raising 4-5 mountain divisions ?
    I don't think that will worry 2.5 million strong Chinese army.

    3. Deployment of Su 30 ?
    When India has 150 odd Su 30 eventually it has to reach all the border bases whats the point in having Su 30 and not deploying it!
    Western nations including US, Britain and Israel are furnishing wrong information through third countries to Beijing, New Delhi and Islamabad to make them suspicious against each other. It is understood that once tension is heightened, the chances of full fledge war would automatically increase
    I just remember India's policy on this issue "Trust but verify" the only lesson learnt again and again from 1962- 1999

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    Do you think that's air you're breathing now? Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBI Munshi View Post
    By By Afshain Afzal

    Quite recently, it was reported that Chinese Navy ships visited Indian port of Cochin to impress upon Indian strategists that New Delhi is no match to Chinese military might.

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    Which Chinese ship visited Cochin? Shenzhen (DDG–167)? That let India to to think that they are 'no match' for PRC?

    The whole article is exaggerating about PRC. China is this, China is that, a deliberate effort by Pakistan!!! But the reality is in some expects IN is better and in some expects PLAN is better. We have better technologies and quality equipments while PLAN has greater number of vessels.

    New Delhi is no match to Chinese military might.

    Chinese can show their presence every where.

    It is true that China is much superior militarily as compared to India.

    Dragon’s plan to split India in many parts appeared in the media.

    China is a mature country

    not to push China to an extant that there is no option but to get hostile.

    it is foolhardy to say India is equal to China militarily.

    India is no match for China whether it is Air Force, Navy or Army.

    China is a big country.

    China is a big country but there is no naval built-up against India or any other country in the region.
    Good choice of words.
    Last edited by Kinetic; 06-19-2010 at 08:43 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechLahore View Post
    It is not a threat in the sense that China will attack and destroy India. But it is a threat in almost every other sense.
    China cannot attack and destroy India because we have the capability to do same. In every other sense means what? India and US controls Indian Ocean and except Pakistan no country will give a naval base to China. As of now Pakistan also didn't allowed China for a base, because US is already there in Pakistan. Also there is serious implications for China to set up a naval base next to India.

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    India can't match China's military force: Navy Chief

    New Delhi: Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta has set off a storm by saying India cannot match China military force. Is it a warning from India's military that the government needs to hear?

    "In military terms, both conventional and non-conventional, we neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force," said Admiral Sureesh Mehta.

    For a nuclear-armed military representing the interests of a billion-plus people, the lack of confidence is quite striking. India's military leadership has made a stunning confession that New Delhi doesn't have the stomach for a fight, if push came to shove on the disputed Sino-Indian boundary.

    "Whether in terms of GDP, defence spend or any other parameter, the gap between the two is too wide to bridge and is getting wider by the day," he said.

    Is Mehta expressing frustration at the slow pace of India's military modernisation? While India spends about billion annually on defence, China spends at least thrice as much, although some estimates go up to $ 200 billion.

    Its military is twice as large as India and its nuclear arsenal far well proven.

    "The eco penalties resulting from military conflict would have grave consequences for both nations. It would therefore be in both our interests to cooperate with reach other," he said.

    The question is, does China want nothing but cooperation with India, as Mehta would want? It continues to proliferate missile and nuclear technology to Pakistan. Its growing footprint in the Indian Ocean challenges India's pre-eminence.

    Its presence in ports ranging from Sittwe in Myanmar to Hambantotta in Lanka and Gwadar in Pakistan suggests a plan for the strategic encirclement of India. The Navy Chief's dramatic statement may have been a desperate cry to counter the Dragon.
    India can't match China's military force: Navy Chief - India News - IBNLive

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    I don't think there is going to be any large scale war between nations any time soon.

    Why should India be competing China? I don't understand the reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by contender View Post
    India can't match China's military force: Navy Chief

    New Delhi: Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta has set off a storm by saying India cannot match China military force. Is it a warning from India's military that the government needs to hear?

    "In military terms, both conventional and non-conventional, we neither have the capability nor the intention to match China force for force," said Admiral Sureesh Mehta.

    For a nuclear-armed military representing the interests of a billion-plus people, the lack of confidence is quite striking. India's military leadership has made a stunning confession that New Delhi doesn't have the stomach for a fight, if push came to shove on the disputed Sino-Indian boundary.

    "Whether in terms of GDP, defence spend or any other parameter, the gap between the two is too wide to bridge and is getting wider by the day," he said.

    Is Mehta expressing frustration at the slow pace of India's military modernisation? While India spends about billion annually on defence, China spends at least thrice as much, although some estimates go up to $ 200 billion.

    Its military is twice as large as India and its nuclear arsenal far well proven.

    "The eco penalties resulting from military conflict would have grave consequences for both nations. It would therefore be in both our interests to cooperate with reach other," he said.

    The question is, does China want nothing but cooperation with India, as Mehta would want? It continues to proliferate missile and nuclear technology to Pakistan. Its growing footprint in the Indian Ocean challenges India's pre-eminence.

    Its presence in ports ranging from Sittwe in Myanmar to Hambantotta in Lanka and Gwadar in Pakistan suggests a plan for the strategic encirclement of India. The Navy Chief's dramatic statement may have been a desperate cry to counter the Dragon.
    India can't match China's military force: Navy Chief - India News - IBNLive
    You choice of words, hatred towards India and love towards China makes it clear that you are a Pakistani!

    BTW why you post that old article?
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    threat? absolutely the threat is threat
    risk though is very low thats all

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    But one thing is true India-China border is more peaceful than India-Pak or India-BD borders. Though media tried to make it an issue, GoI clearly said some instances of intrusion by Chinese troops are common and accidental as Indian troops also does the mistakes sometimes in those unmarked terrain. In any type of war both India and China has nothing to gain. And author of the article Munsi posted is an idiot. China is powerful and they does not bother any small build up in Indian side.
    BTW, we are actually hiding our Sukhoi fighters in Assam from Mighty PAF and missiles of Pakistan as they are third in world in missile technology.
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    we wont be seeing a war between china & india any time soon, because china's real goal is to surpass U.S power, and waging a war with india will only take their military 10 years back though they will probably win.

    peace.......
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