Turkey vs. Iran: The Battle for Influence

[somebozo]

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Assalam alaikum

Yes i m sure most of the bangladeshies dont know well ahmedinezad they r just liking him coz he talks against u.s ( just talk ) and looks humble.

TARIQ

Bangladesh is a sunni muslim country ... But Ahmedinezad is the most popular leader.. Every other day i find bangla Blogs on his life style, speeches and hundred shares of those in facebook with positive comments .....

Thats because Bangladeshi are naive rural people who are easily taken by propoganda for their simplicity..this tactic helped a lot during 1971. Thanks for confirming..

Brothers , it pains me when Muslims fight with each other. We should cooperate with each other and form European Union type Economic Zone. What if Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan and the 6 Muslim Republics from former Soviet Union form an Economic Zone with Common Currency and Defence. Ten Nations acting as one Economic Block:

1. Turkey
2. Iran
3. Pakistan
4. Afghanistan
5. Kazakhstan
6. Uzbekistan
7. Turkmenistan
8. Krgyzstan
9. Tajikistan
10. Azerbaijan

It will be a Great Union ( Almost 500 million strong Market , so we can take advantage of Economies of Scale ). Our Combined Industrial might will rival all the Production Powerhouses. Seven of these countries are landlocked and this would give them access to Warm Waters of Turkey , Iran and Pakistan. It will also facilitate the energy resources of many of these countries to find access to local and overseas markets. Something to think about.

You put Iranian people in the mix without their stupid clergy and it will work wonders...Iranian people are very good..their clergy is corrupt and treacherous!

nobody hate iran for being shia, shia did obtain high jobs during abbsiyad era till now in sunni countries , no problem with that

TARIQ

And you know what happend to them at the hands of their own vizer Ibn Alqami??

plus our president Mr. Ghaddari is shia too, enjoying everything from the pplz tax money....:cheesy

oh! come on man now...if U wanna take the lead go ahead we will leave it for u guyz.....I guess Iran, Turkey can leave their place for u guyz....don't be so much disappointed.....

Zardari religion is only money...

[patna_ke_presley]

My point was not insult zoroastrianism, but just to point out it's silly to say my people will become a super power if we change our religion.

Zoroastrians are very intelligent and hardworking people. Even in small number, they helped building the economy of Mumbai city. Many big business houses like Tata, Wadia, Godrej are Zoroastrians. Father of India's nuclear program was also a Zoroastrian named Homi Jehangir Bhabha. Sam Manekshaw who led India as army general in 1971 war with Pakistan was also a Zoroastrian. There are many more in Bollywood and civil societies.

[mikkix]

there is no comparison Turkey is way ahead with Iran,
I dont understand why the debate is turned into persian/Arab/turkish one.
it was all about Iran vs Turkey which i think is waste of time.

[kobiraaz]

Thats because Bangladeshi are naive rural people who are easily taken by propoganda for their simplicity..this tactic helped a lot during 1971. Thanks for confirming..

YOUR POST IS FULL OF IGNORANCE!

naive rural people

i was not talking about rural people. I was talking about young new generations who use Facebook Blogs and have access to world politics and history!

easily taken by propoganda

Again reality is quite opposite. Propaganda?? Yes, Sure. Wahhabis spends lots of money building madrasa in every corner of Bangladesh, trying to spread their ideology! No presence of Iran or anything else in the country. That proves how simple we are! we take propaganda!

this tactic helped a lot during 1971.

again ignorance! propaganda in 1971?? excuse me! the war took place in Bangladesh! Hell was unleashed upon them, they experienced the war, unlike you common West Pakistanis who had no idea what was happening there! And again mass people joined the war after April-May! The bulk of the muktis formed during June-July! They only joined the war after watching genocide against minorities and secular people during march-April period!

[agentny17]

Well, in general Turkey is more liked than Iran in most Arab countries, but Iran is still apperciated in countries like Algeria, Iraq, Palestaine, Lebanon, Bahrain, and some what in Egypt. But most people trust Turkey more than Iran because Iran is a Shii country in my opinion. Also, the hate toward Iran increased a lot since Iraq war.

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Well, in general Turkey is more liked than Iran in most Arab countries, but Iran is still apperciated in countries like Algeria, Iraq, Palestaine, Lebanon, Bahrain, and some what in Egypt. But most people trust Turkey more than Iran because Iran is a Shii country in my opinion. Also, the hate toward Iran increased a lot since Iraq war.

and now the hate has doubled due to iran's support to syrian regime as i notice
Iraqi sunnies r completely against iran and i know few shias also, palestinians don't like iran only hamas and aljehad taking help from iran and few more.

TARIQ

[patna_ke_presley]

Well, in general Turkey is more liked than Iran in most Arab countries, but Iran is still apperciated in countries like Algeria, Iraq, Palestaine, Lebanon, Bahrain, and some what in Egypt. But most people trust Turkey more than Iran because Iran is a Shii country in my opinion. Also, the hate toward Iran increased a lot since Iraq war.

Are you talking about 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war or second gulf war. If it is Second Gulf war, then what Iran has to do with it.

[Abii]

Well, in general Turkey is more liked than Iran in most Arab countries, but Iran is still apperciated in countries like Algeria, Iraq, Palestaine, Lebanon, Bahrain, and some what in Egypt. But most people trust Turkey more than Iran because Iran is a Shii country in my opinion. Also, the hate toward Iran increased a lot since Iraq war.

I summed it up in page 4 already
Iranians are fully aware of the fact that any relationship between Iran and the Arab world will always be between Iran and the SHIA Arab world. As you said, Iran has a strong presence in Iraq (pretty much controls the politics in Iraq) and Lebanon and huge support in countries with Shia minorities/majorities. Turkey has the respect of the sunni world. Both countries (Iran and Turkey) want different things and both are getting what they want out of the Arab world. That's all that matters.

This pic for example was taken in Lebanon last year. He (Nejad) probably gets more support in Leb than he does in Iran.

[agentny17]

and now the hate has doubled due to iran's support to syrian regime as i notice
Iraqi sunnies r completely against iran and i know few shias also, palestinians don't like iran only hamas and aljehad taking help from iran and few more.

TARIQ

Gulf Arabs are the one who really hate Iran, and Iranians hate them too as i can see from some posts on here. Arabs in general like Iran stand against the US and Israel(Even if just some talk), and that is the same reason they started to like Turkey since Erdogan came to power, before they used to like Turkey because Turkish girls are gorgeous, lol..... Both countries don't have that much effect on the Arab world as the respected members think. Both countries don't have the influence of counries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, or even Qatar in my opinion.

[agentny17]

I summed it up in page 4 already
Iranians are fully aware of the fact that any relationship between Iran and the Arab world will always be between Iran and the SHIA Arab world. As you said, Iran has a strong presence in Iraq (pretty much controls the politics in Iraq) and Lebanon and huge support in countries with Shia minorities/majorities. Turkey has the respect of the sunni world. Both countries (Iran and Turkey) want different things and both are getting what they want out of the Arab world. That's all that matters.

This pic for example was taken in Lebanon last year. He (Nejad) probably gets more support in Leb than he does in Iran.

LOL at he gets more support in Lebanon than in Iran, hahaaha.... Now, why do you think that you guys can only have good relations with Shii Arabs ? "Arabs" of North Africa don't even worry if you guys are Sunni or Shii. A lot of Egyptians apperciate Iran and Turkey a lot. I know Algerians do too.

[patna_ke_presley]

Gulf Arabs are the one who really hate Iran, and Iranians hate them too as i can see from some posts on here. Arabs in general like Iran stand against the US and Israel(Even if just some talk), and that is the same reason they started to like Turkey since Erdogan came to power, before they used to like Turkey because Turkish girls are gorgeous, lol..... Both countries don't have that much effect on the Arab world as the respected members think. Both countries don't have the influence of counries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, or even Qatar in my opinion.

Can you clarify what Arab world think about Turkey being a part of NATO. I really don't know about that aspect. Also Turkey is trying to join EU.

[agentny17]

Are you talking about 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war or second gulf war. If it is Second Gulf war, then what Iran has to do with it.

Hate toward Iran in the gulf region started during Iran-Iraq war which is crazy since Iraq started the war. But since the Second gulf war the hate was doubled because some people blame the Iraqi shiis for all the mess in Iraq after Sadam. They think Iraqii shiis are Iranians pupets. It is all relgious in my opinion, wahabi Suadi Arabia against Twelvers Iran, and they are messing up the entire region with them, good for them they have oil to help in spreading their ideolgy.

[Mike2011]

Iran has balls. Turkey has no match.

[agentny17]

Can you clarify what Arab world think about Turkey being a part of NATO. I really don't know about that aspect. Also Turkey is trying to join EU.

People don't really care, that is atleast what i think. People look at Turkey as a role model that Arab countries have should follow. Freedom, democracy, moderate Islam, support for Palestine, Islamic party winning elections, all that stuff.

[NeutralCitizen]

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Hate toward Iran in the gulf region started during Iran-Iraq war which is crazy since Iraq started the war. But since the Second gulf war the hate was doubled because some people blame the Iraqi shiis for all the mess in Iraq after Sadam. They think Iraqii shiis are Iranians pupets. It is all relgious in my opinion, wahabi Suadi Arabia against Twelvers Iran, and they are messing up the entire region with them, good for them they have oil to help in spreading their ideolgy.

UAE, Bahrain, Oman, Qatar, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia should recognize Israel and forget the Palestine move all the Palestinians to gaza and dump phosphorous on them end of story. they would likely do that.