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    Default JF-17 to get a new engine - RD-93MA with 9300kgf thrust



    According to UEC General Designer Alexander Ivakh speaking at the Engines 2012 salon in April, about 70 engines of the RD-33 family were made in Russia last year. Their production is run now by the Chernyshev Mashine-Building Enterprise in Moscow. Previously, the RD-33 Series 2 had been in production with the Baranov OMO enterprise in Omsk (at present, an affiliate of the Salut Gas Turbine Research and Production Centre), but the fact that customers order now RD-33 Series 3 and RD-33MK engines only has left Omsk-based plant with repairing and overhauling Baranov-made engines, while the production of new engines has moved to Moscow.



    Chernyshev’s near-term production programme is determined by its current orderbook for the second batch of 29 MiG-29K/KUB carrierborne fighters to India (the first batch of 16 aircraft powered by Chernyshev-built RD-33MKs was delivered during 2009–2011) and the recent Russian Defence Ministry order for 24 fighters of the type. In addition, the plant supplied RD-33MK turbofans to fit the first two MiG-29M/M2 fighter prototypes.

    The first MiG-29K/KUB jets are due to the Russian Navy’s air arm as soon as 2013, but the RD-33MK first has to pass its official bench tests for compliance with peculiar requirements of the Russian Armed Forces. Klimov JSC kicked off the tests on 28 January 2012.

    An important position in Chernyshev’s production plans is also occupied by the deliveries of RD-33 Series 3 knockdown kits to India under the January 2007 contract on licence production of 120 engines of the type there. The programme is about half-complete.

    Finally, the RD-93, a RD-33 derivative with the low-mounted accessory gearbox, is exported to China to fit FC-1 (JF-17) light single-engine fighters. The deal for 100 RD-93s with an option for 400 more was clinched in April 2005. The first 15 engines were assembled by Klimov, and Chernyshev has handled the rest of the deliveries since 2006. The contract is half-complete, and the deliveries shall resume as soon as the customer submits its request.

    At the same time with the full-rate production in Moscow, Klimov JSC in St. Petersburg continues to refine the RD-33MK and RD-93. According to Klimov, the company’s jet engine priorities are the development of the modified RD-93MA with the thrust enhanced to 9,300 kgf for a foreign customer and the development of the upgraded RD-33MKM with a thrust of 9,500 kgf for the MiG corporation.

    Take-off Magazine : RD-33: output on the rise

    From 8,300kgf to 9,300kgf. That's a 1 tonne thrust increase. Would do wonders for JF-17's thrust to weight ratio. Enjoy the extra thrust PAF fans!
    9,300kgf is equal to 20502lbf if my calculations are right.

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    Default Re: JF-17 to get a new engine - RD-93MA with 9300kgf thrust

    Could be for projects of China.....
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    Default Re: JF-17 to get a new engine - RD-93MA with 9300kgf thrust

    it doesnt say which country dear might as well be isreal or syria or china or martinians
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    Default Re: JF-17 to get a new engine - RD-93MA with 9300kgf thrust

    Quote Originally Posted by МиГ-29 View Post
    At the same time with the full-rate production in Moscow, Klimov JSC in St. Petersburg continues to refine the RD-33MK and RD-93. According to Klimov, the company’s jet engine priorities are the development of the modified RD-93MA with the thrust enhanced to 9,300 kgf for a foreign customer and the development of the upgraded RD-33MKM with a thrust of 9,500 kgf for the MiG corporation.



    This poster is for all those who said it was fake and no RD-93 will be upgraded

    Quote Originally Posted by A.Muqeet khan View Post
    it doesnt say which country dear might as well be isreal or syria or china or martinians
    Quote Originally Posted by mjnaushad View Post
    Could be for projects of China.....
    rightly said, this upgraded RD-93 is for Chinese FC-1. It's availability to PAF is doubtful depending upon funds.
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    China Takes An Expensive Hit

    old and biased news..
    But says china has difficulties in mass producing own engine and heavily relying on russian engines..
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    Default Re: JF-17 to get a new engine - RD-93MA with 9300kgf thrust

    As Jf-17 is the only aircraft to be powered by RD-93 engine so we can conclude that the new variant RD-93MA is for Jf-17
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    Default Re: JF-17 to get a new engine - RD-93MA with 9300kgf thrust

    So it can hit mach 2 now?
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    Default Re: JF-17 to get a new engine - RD-93MA with 9300kgf thrust

    That is around 91.2 KN with Afterburner
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    Default Re: JF-17 to get a new engine - RD-93MA with 9300kgf thrust

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Jaguar View Post
    So it can hit mach 2 now?
    Yes! it shold be able to hit mach 2 now.........
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    Default Re: JF-17 to get a new engine - RD-93MA with 9300kgf thrust

    so block II isnt a myth after all?
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    Default Re: JF-17 to get a new engine - RD-93MA with 9300kgf thrust

    Quote Originally Posted by Safriz View Post
    so block II isnt a myth after all?
    FC-1 is not a myth afterall?
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    Quote Originally Posted by INDIAISM View Post
    That is around 91.2 KN with Afterburner
    Its more than the current thrust produced by the "Volvo Aero RM 12" engine used by gripen c/d
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    Quote Originally Posted by mafiya View Post
    FC-1 is not a myth afterall?
    I think FC-1 Will use ws-10 not rd-93
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    Default Re: JF-17 to get a new engine - RD-93MA with 9300kgf thrust

    Quote Originally Posted by Mani2020 View Post
    Its more than the current thrust produced by the "Volvo Aero RM 12" engine used by gripen c/d
    wasn't it 98 KN got gripen c/d?

    Quote Originally Posted by Safriz View Post
    I think FC-1 Will use ws-10 not rd-93
    it's WS-13 and as they say, it's not a mature engine and still need couple of years, might be some FC-1 use upgraded RD-93 as stop gap measure?

    WS-13 testing on FC-1 started in march 2010. It's 2 years now and i think it still 2-3 years more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mafiya View Post
    wasn't it 98 KN?
    no its for gripen NG with the proposed engine F414G
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