JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[RaptorRX707]

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I think the testing is already underway, There was a pic of JFT with modified nose undergoing testing at CFTE. Current nose of JFT is 640MM approx.

would appreciate if you provide pictures of modifying nose in JF-17 links.

[krash]

^^^^ Further adding to that, in reply to Mr.Waqas, the figure of 36 has already reportedly been increased to over 50, as per eagle hannan or pshamim (I think it was EagleHannan though im not sure but it was definitely one of these two) and even this is not going to be the final number of FC-20s that the PAF is going to acquire. The numbers will surely increase.

[WAQAS119]

Hi Mr. WAQAS119, any redesign is possible, but the issue is cost. If you read the artcile on the F-16XL it was dropped for the following reasons:

- Complex changes to the airframe, requiring the fuselage to become longer.
- Cost of changes required.
- Time necessary to implement and test all these changes into production.

The US Air Force chose the F-15E over the F-16XL, because less changes and money were required to modify an F-15D to the F-15E version.

Pakisan cannot afford these type of changes to the JF-17, rather it should buy the J-10S or the JF-7B. Moroever, it should concentrate on inducting more JF-17s.

JF-17 cannot be further modified for Delta configuration - Agreed. But but just 36 J-10 then? Do you guys think it would be enough of strike power?

[ANG]

Hi Mr. WAQAS119, getting more J-10s is always better, but there is the issue of money and paying for them. The initial number I have read has been 36, sometimes 58, 36 will be good for 2 solid squadrons. Remember, it takes a lot of time and money to train aircrews, train ground crews, set up a new logistics system for a new platform. As such, getting 36 initially is probably the safest approach.

[krash]

JF-17 cannot be further modified for Delta configuration - Agreed. But but just 36 J-10 then? Do you guys think it would be enough of strike power?

Please read:

^^^^ Further adding to that, in reply to Mr.Waqas, the figure of 36 has already reportedly been increased to over 50, as per eagle hannan or pshamim (I think it was EagleHannan though im not sure but it was definitely one of these two) and even this is not going to be the final number of FC-20s that the PAF is going to acquire. The numbers will surely increase.

The aircraft are to be ordered in batches. The first batch now is of 58.

[abaseen99]

China Gives Pakistan 50 Fighter Jets
By JANE PERLEZ
Published: May 19, 2011
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/20/wo...stan.html?_r=1
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — China has agreed to immediately provide 50 JF-17 fighter jets to Pakistan, a major outcome of a visit by Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani to Beijing this week, Pakistani officials said Thursday.
China and Pakistan have jointly produced the JF-17 aircraft, but the new planes would be equipped with more sophisticated avionics, the officials said. The latest jet fighters would be paid for by China, they said.

The announcement came as Pakistan’s already tense relations with the United States soured further after the killing of Osama bin Laden deep inside Pakistan on May 2.

Last week, Pakistan’s spy chief denounced the United States in a rare briefing before Parliament in which he condemned the American raid for breaching Pakistan’s sovereignty. Parliament, in turn, called for the government to revisit relations with the United States.

Mr. Gilani’s visit to Beijing served as a pointed reminder of Pakistani suggestions that the government might seek to recalibrate relations with the United States, using China to offset what many here view as an overdependence on Washington.

The United States has provided Pakistan with some $20 billion in aid, mostly military, for its cooperation in fighting terrorism since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Much of that aid has come in the form of reimbursements for Pakistani counterterrorism operations.

Both the aid and the effectiveness of Pakistan’s cooperation have been called into question by the discovery that Bin Laden had lived for years in a large compound adjacent to a top military academy in the city of Abbottabad, a two-hour drive from the capital, Islamabad.

While the Obama administration would still like Pakistan’s cooperation to wind down the war in Afghanistan and to root out terrorist groups, some American lawmakers are now calling for aid to Pakistan to be cut or suspended.

For their part, Pakistani officials were incensed that the Obama administration gave them no notice of the raid until helicopters bearing a Navy Seal team had already left the country.

Mr. Gilani’s four-day visit to China may help Pakistan as it tries to regain leverage with the United States. During his visit, Mr. Gilani met with Premier Wen Jiabao of China, who bolstered Pakistan by saying the United States should respect Pakistan’s sovereignty.

The news about the JF-17 aircraft is clearly a signal that Pakistan is shopping for alternatives to Washington, though the value of the deal may be more symbolic than decisive in terms of Pakistan’s military capacity.

Pakistani military officials have consistently complained that American aid, which they would nonetheless like to keep flowing, falls short on many essential military items that the Americans have been reluctant to offer.

The United States provides Pakistan with F-16 fighter jets to help the country match the air power of its archrival India, but Pakistani military officials have complained that their F-16 fleet is aging.

The deal is another sign that Pakistan’s relations with China are frequently far less encumbered than those with the United States, and that in many ways the interests of Pakistan and China coincide more easily.

The United States may be Pakistan’s largest benefactor, but China is Pakistan’s largest trading partner, and for years the Chinese have heavily invested in building a deep-water port in the Pakistani city of Gwadar.

China is often referred to as Pakistan’s “all-weather friend,” a contrast to the common depiction of its up-and-down relationship with the United States, which is deeply unpopular here.

The United States has invested in a special relationship with India. Both China and Pakistan, on the other hand, view India as a rival. They share an interest in containing India’s regional influence, particularly as the United States draws down its forces in Afghanistan, a process the Obama administration says it will start this summer.

At a landmark meeting on April 16 in the Afghan capital, Kabul, top Pakistani officials suggested to Afghan leaders that they, too, needed to look to China, an ascendant power, rather than align themselves closely with the United States, according to Afghan officials.

“You couldn’t tell exactly what they meant, whether China could possibly be an alternative to the United States, but they were saying it could help both countries,” an Afghan official said afterward. so i think that is the reasons that pakistan are increasing j 10b and more advance weapons of chanies

[hasnain0099]

would appreciate if you provide pictures of modifying nose in JF-17 links.

Here you go.............

[mafiya]

Here you go.............

Photoshope, as usual! but it does give idea how JF-17 will look like with diamond shape nose

[houshanghai]

Photoshope, as usual! but it does give idea how JF-17 will look like with diamond shape nose

the pic is not photoshop .
bcz it come from a very reliable person Mr.G in cdf.
i think that the pic is real




This JFT's sketch was painted by Mr.G too.

[mafiya]

the pic is not photoshop .
bcz it come from a very reliable person Mr.G in cdf.
i think that the pic is real




This JFT's sketch was painted by Mr.G too.

I'm still not seeing IRST on it, and what's written on Nose in chinese?

[houshanghai]

I'm still not seeing IRST on it, and what's written on Nose in chinese?

At the present time，there is little infs about the V-head jft in cdf.
I think it is still a hign-secret project now and not openly acknowledged .Maybe PAF didn't choose to have it known???
but many big boss have confirmed its existence in cdf .
It is reported by them that something new wil be tested in the new JFT PT
Only time can tell the full secret about the rumored JFT variant PT .

[siegecrossbow]

Am I the only person who thinks that the mystery plane is nothing more than a J-7 hiding under a tarp?

[houshanghai]

Am I the only person who thinks that the mystery plane is nothing more than a J-7 hiding under a tarp?

lol,you know goneless(most famous " climbing wall party"in yangliang)???. This picture was taken by him.he said that there is a V-head JFT PT in yanliang.

[Luftwaffe]

Am I the only person who thinks that the mystery plane is nothing more than a J-7 hiding under a tarp?

Or it could be JL-9 hiding. All speculations until we have a confirmed authentic photograph.

[mughaljee]

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Please share both pictures of J-17 Side by side ,
Before & After modifying nose.