JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 4]

[siegecrossbow]

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two jf-17 caught on google earth at kamra ..

Did you find that hataf? You must've been a real FC-1 fan if you took time hunting them down on Google Earth!

[hataf]

Did you find that hataf? You must've been a real FC-1 fan if you took time hunting them down on Google Earth!

i am not a fan but lover of JF-17 . . . . .

and i think every pakistani is . . . . ..

and thanks to Chinese brother that this dream becomes reality . . . . .

[Arsalan]

@ hataf,
more intrestinngly i think these are actually three different air crafts in two images.
if you closely observe the first one, both the planes seem to be in PAF camo of grey color.
in the second pic, it appears that this is the JF-17 that first roared in the Pak Skies on 23 March prade, the one with the Pakistan and Chines falg color scheam.
it appears to be green in shade.

regards!

[DANGER-ZONE]

@ hataf,
more intrestinngly i think these are actually three different air crafts in two images.
if you closely observe the first one, both the planes seem to be in PAF camo of grey color.
in the second pic, it appears that this is the JF-17 that first roared in the Pak Skies on 23 March prade, the one with the Pakistan and Chines falg color scheam.
it appears to be green in shade.

regards!

heya bro, its Not 101. It is Jf-17 10-111 the first bird made by PAC.
rest of all three are having same camouflage.

[F86 Saber]

Aren't these sensitive locations off limits for google earth?

[Aeronaut]

JF-17 TWR is over 1.1 confirmed from a JFT pilot yesterday

[siegecrossbow]

Aren't these sensitive locations off limits for google earth?

Nope, not even the infamous Area 51 is off limits. I don't know how old the pictures are, however, and I'm 100 % sure that you won't see any alien ships/advanced prototype fighters lying around .

I think it would be wise for countries to start setting up mockups so they could fool satellites. You don't want your average Bob or Joe ruining a military operation because he was messing around on Google Earth!

[WAQAS119]

JF-17 TWR is over 1.1 confirmed from a JFT pilot yesterday

It has already been confirmed by Sir PShamim, I guess!

[Aeronaut]

It has already been confirmed by Sir PShamim, I guess!

Lets call it Reconfirmation then

[Hindustan Fighter]

JF-17 TWR is over 1.1 confirmed from a JFT pilot yesterday

If it is so then prove it by calculation. TWR calculations are very simple.


Refer below the Official specifications given by PAC Karma.
Now Lets calculate the TWR with given figures.

-TWR with Full afterburner= Max Combat Thrust/ (Empty weight + Internal Fuel)
= 19200/ (14520 +5100)
= 0.987 TWR

-TWR with Max Dry Thrust= Max Dry Thrust / (Empty weight + Internal Fuel)
= 11100/ (14520 + 5100)
= 0.565 TWR

[Jazzbot]

If it is so then prove it by calculation. TWR calculations are very simple.


Refer below the Official specifications given by PAC Karma.
Now Lets calculate the TWR with given figures.

-TWR with Full afterburner= Max Combat Thrust/ (Empty weight + Internal Fuel)
= 19200/ (14520 +5100)
= 0.987 TWR

-TWR with Max Dry Thrust= Max Dry Thrust / (Empty weight + Internal Fuel)
= 11100/ (14520 + 5100)
= 0.565 TWR

And why do you think that we have to prove something to you? If its that painful to accept above claim then feel free and go ahead to ignore it..

[Aeronaut]

If it is so then prove it by calculation. TWR calculations are very simple.


Refer below the Official specifications given by PAC Karma.
Now Lets calculate the TWR with given figures.

-TWR with Full afterburner= Max Combat Thrust/ (Empty weight + Internal Fuel)
= 19200/ (14520 +5100)
= 0.987 TWR

-TWR with Max Dry Thrust= Max Dry Thrust / (Empty weight + Internal Fuel)
= 11100/ (14520 + 5100)
= 0.565 TWR

We have discussed it a 100 times before , the PAC wesbite has not been updated for many years it even does not contain info about DSI.

The Weight has been reduced and composite materials are being used in the production models & the info you have is outdated and is of the first prototype.

I have personally spoken to a friend of mine who has been flying JFT and he confirmed it too before that TempsetII spoken to a pilot in Farnborough who said the same thing and is also confirmed by sir Pshmim.

[Hindustan Fighter]

And why do you think that we have to prove something to you? If its that painful to accept above claim then feel free and go ahead to ignore it..

Your wish, just wanted to understand technical bases for the claim.

[Ping]

He is right. TWR of 1.1 is not accurate. There has to be a limit where one can lie. I have posted a response here if anyone is interested. JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

[Hindustan Fighter]

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We have discussed it a 100 times before , the PAC wesbite has not been updated for many years it even does not contain info about DSI.

The Weight has been reduced and composite materials are being used in the production models & the info you have is outdated and is of the first prototype.

I have personally spoken to a friend of mine who has been flying JFT and he confirmed it too before that TempsetII spoken to a pilot in Farnborough who said the same thing and is also confirmed by sir Pshmim.

Yes I do agree with you, since the aircraft is in continuous development the specification may have changed/ improved.
However it is not just about the PAC website, but no other official source have mentioned about the new details.
So it is just my opinion that until the details are out publicly it doesn't look fair to confirm it.