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    Made-in-China airplanes may undermine sales of Russian high quality jets




    Published 05 July, 2010, 22:52

    Edited 22 July, 2010, 06:29

    Russian and Chinese weapons manufacturers are clashing head on within the international arms market as China’s new fighter jet seems to be a cheaper imitation of the Russian original.

    The argument is threatening to put on hold a multi-billion-dollar engines sale contract between the countries concerning the delivery of some hundreds Russian-made RD-93 engines needed for Chinese-Pakistani fighter jets called the FC-1.


    The deal is facing opposition from Russian aircraft manufacturers, such as Mikhail Pogosyan, the head of the MiG and Sukhoi aviation holding, who said that the FC-1 is extremely close, if not the same, as the Russian-made MiG-29. Pogosyan claimed that FC-1 is a direct competitor to Russia's MiG-29 and the deal would incur losses for the Russian manufacturers.

    A source quoted by the Kommersant newspaper said there are significant price differences keeping the US$10-million Chinese jets much cheaper than a $35-million Russian MiG-29.

    Also, representatives from Russian Defense Export said that there was nothing wrong with re-exporting, which is in accordance with the decision of the Russian government. They added that there is no law that says there should be any agreement with Russian manufacturers citing the example of RD-33 that was re-exported to Egypt and was given permission by the Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation in 2007. These engines are sold to Bangladesh, Algeria and Saudi Arabia.

    Ruslan Pukhov, the member of the Defense Ministry Public Council, disagrees with the officials.

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    Default Re: JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

    Coming soon to your neighborhood, the fighter jet equivalent of the 99 cent store.

    No jet priced over $9,999,999.00
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    Quote Originally Posted by Developereo View Post
    Coming soon to your neighborhood, the fighter jet equivalent of the 99 cent store.

    No jet priced over $9,999,999.00
    The issue here is not the Price but the Capabilities or Price to performance ratio.

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    Default Re: JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

    blackblood,bro would u be able to upload the video on youtube? thanks!

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    Default Re: JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

    maza a gaya
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    Default Re: JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

    Did you guys read his title?

    "......Russian high quality jets...."


    really?


    Such high quality that only other nations can dream of....talk about MIG 21, MIG23, MIG27,MIG29 and SU30 and their deadly crashes.


    Not to mention Sukhoi crashing jets at almost every airshow...

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    Default Re: JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

    Quote Originally Posted by penumbra View Post
    Did you guys read his title?

    "......Russian high quality jets...."


    really?


    Such high quality that only other nations can dream of....talk about MIG 21, MIG23, MIG27,MIG29 and SU30 and their deadly crashes.


    Not to mention Sukhoi crashing jets at almost every airshow...

    Then only JF-17 from its inception is powered by that same age old Junk Russian Engine RD-93.
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    Default Re: JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

    Well we could , help russians if they provide us improved economic , trade , perhaps we could sell JF17 at 30 million dollars / plane close to russian fighters so they are not threatened (for international market)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZADPAKISTAN2009 View Post
    Well we could , help russians if they provide us improved economic , trade , perhaps we could sell JF17 at 30 million dollars / plane close to russian fighters so they are not threatened (for international market)

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    Default Re: JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

    Here is the link to which BB posted.......

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    Default Re: JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

    ^ I liked the part from 4:45 -

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    Default Re: JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

    Patriotism aside but its hard to believe that Thunder is very close to Mig 29.

    JF-17 is a multi role budget aircraft where Mig 29 tends to be more of an air superiority fighter.

    If i am not wrong J-10 competed with Mig 29 for Burma.

    I think that Corporate head was either getting ahead of himself or deliberately making up facts.

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    Default Re: JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

    There are some gaps in logic here...

    We have people who will accept that JF-17 is clearly comparable and "nearly close" to the F-16...but somehow, the F-16's counterpart, the MiG-29, must be above and beyond JF-17. Seriously....???

    I'd say the MiG-35 is clearly superior to current JF-17, but a lot of those gaps will be bridged in the Block-II JF-17 (with HMD/S, 5th gen WVRAAM, higher-thrust engine, potentially AESA radar, etc). It may not end up being as great, but good enough...
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    Default Re: JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan

    ^ Mark I think PAF should acquire the Cobra HMS from S.Africa - what do you suggest?

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    Default Re: JFT is "Extremely close" to MIG-29: Mikhail Pogosyan



    well ppl good for us


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