TOP ARMED FORCES OF THE WORLD IN 2012!!

[BordoEnes]

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1. Japanese and British economies are also multiple times larger than Turkish economy, and Iranian economy is comparable to Turkish economy despite all embargoes and sanctions from the West.

2. Japan is a world leader in multiple fields while Turkey is a leader in almost nothing important.

3. The simple way of ending this argument is this: Turkey is unable to build a single national engine of its own and you want to claim Turkey is stronger than Britain and Japan which are at the forefront in these sectors. Rolls-Royce engines are used in most top civilian jets in the world, and Japanese industry can churn out destroyers, frigates and other ships much faster than Turkey.

4. Turkey should first develop a national engine, kick out NATO, develop its own SLV, its own fighters, its own ICBM capability, then you can begin to compare with Iran, Britain or Japan.

Good night.

There is nothing Military about this comment at all! Yet again this is a Military forum other issues such as economie should be discussed at another section!

[BordoEnes]

1. Japanese and British economies are also multiple times larger than Turkish economy, and Iranian economy is comparable to Turkish economy despite all embargoes and sanctions from the West.

2. Japan is a world leader in multiple fields while Turkey is a leader in almost nothing important.

3. The simple way of ending this argument is this: Turkey is unable to build a single national engine of its own and you want to claim Turkey is stronger than Britain and Japan which are at the forefront in these sectors. Rolls-Royce engines are used in most top civilian jets in the world, and Japanese industry can churn out destroyers, frigates and other ships much faster than Turkey.

4. Turkey should first develop a national engine, kick out NATO, develop its own SLV, its own fighters, its own ICBM capability, then you can begin to compare with Iran, Britain or Japan.

Good night.

1. Never Claimed Turkey was better in economical mather. Irans economy equal? 1 Dollar is about 16000 Iranian Marks, You really believe that crap

2. Never Claimed Turkey was a Leader in fields, Uncalled Hate comment you hater

3. Never Claimed Turkey was better at any of these factors, Yet again current military statics here!

4. Your Hater openion, No ones gives a crap
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[RedBeard]

What does Bangladesh army have to do with our discussion? The part that you put in bold letters was this:

4. Turkey should first develop a national engine, kick out NATO, develop its own SLV, its own fighters, its own ICBM capability, then you can begin to compare with Iran, Britain or Japan.

So which part of this is wrong? Has Turkey made its own national engine for aircrafts or automobiles? Has Turkey expelled NATO? Has Turkey developed its own SLV? Has Turkey developed its own fighter aircrafts? Does Turkey have its own ICBM capability?


The answers are well known, so there is no room for debate here. If you can provide any information that Turkey has achieved parity with Iran, Britain or Japan, then provide them here. Otherwise, do not waste time by making useless posts. Some Turks are unable to answer simple questions about their UAV programme, and when you are shown the facts about UAE's advanced UAV's most Turks start meaningless abusive posts without any facts or arguments.

Can there even be arguments with such ignorant people who do not know about Emirates Airlines and Etihad Airways but try to brag about their third rate airlines?

Goodbye.

All these are currently under devellopment and who are you to ask us to leave NATO? Silly Bengali u should know your place.

Our TAL are competing against european giant airlines u are just ignorant to compare with Emirates Airlines..

[Banglar Lathial]

Japan built multiple aircraft carriers during World War II, obviously they have the capability to do so, since they had that capability more than 6 decades ago. Here is a test of a British nuclear bomb, now show a test of the Turkish nuclear bomb. Really, why are moderators even allowing these idiotic Turks to ruin the forum? Previously, there was a spate of idiotic Indians, now we have Turks who do not know basic facts and start insulting at the drop of a hat but fail to stitch together a single logical argument.




This is one of 100's of sources proving that Britain was the third
country in the entire world to develop its own nuclear bombs. How can a country like Belgium or Turkey compare with British military power, then? Do not forget that Belgium also stores NATO's nuclear weapons like Turkey.

[Banglar Lathial]

All these are currently under devellopment and who are you to ask us to leave NATO? Silly Bengali u should know your place.

Our TAL are competing against european giant airlines u are just ignorant to compare with Emirates Airlines..

Emirates Airlines and Etihad are trend setters in the world, your TAI are competing in Europe because there are very few/no good airlines in Europe. Silly Turk, know your place.

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Jeez so pathetic, So what your gonna wiezel your way out with this excuse?

Message reported for your personal insults. Show what "FACTS" you have that "prove" Turkey's military is stronger than Japan or Britain?

I have already proven Turkey is far weaker than Britain or Japan.

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Go report it troll you are childish.

You are another Turk in this forum. For some reason Turk is often spelled as tur*s by many people, maybe Europeans also do not like you.

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There is nothing Military about this comment at all! Yet again this is a Military forum other issues such as economie should be discussed at another section!

Read it again! If you still can not see any military related comment, then you can never ever become a military leader of any country, not even a weak country like Turkey (Turkey is a weak country in world level).

1. Japanese and British economies are also multiple times larger than Turkish economy, and Iranian economy is comparable to Turkish economy despite all embargoes and sanctions from the West.

2. Japan is a world leader in multiple fields while Turkey is a leader in almost nothing important.

3. The simple way of ending this argument is this: Turkey is unable to build a single national engine of its own and you want to claim Turkey is stronger than Britain and Japan which are at the forefront in these sectors. Rolls-Royce engines are used in most top civilian jets in the world, and Japanese industry can churn out destroyers, frigates and other ships much faster than Turkey.

4. Turkey should first develop a national engine, kick out NATO, develop its own SLV, its own fighters, its own ICBM capability, then you can begin to compare with Iran, Britain or Japan.

[BordoEnes]

Are all Turks totally stupid here?

Japan built multiple aircraft carriers during World War II, obviously they have the capability to do so, since they had that capability more than 6 decades ago. Here is a test of a British nuclear bomb, now show a test of the Turkish nuclear bomb. Really, why are moderators even allowing these idiotic Turks to ruin the forum? Previously, there was a spate of idiotic Indians, now we have Turks who do not know basic facts and start insulting at the drop of a hat but fail to stitch together a single logical argument.




This is one of 100's of sources proving that Britain was the third
country in the entire world to develop its own nuclear bombs. How can a country like Belgium or Turkey compare with British military power, then? Do not forget that Belgium also stores NATO's nuclear weapons like Turkey.

The Aircraft carriers at that size and technology is as advanced and big as our crappy Perrry Frigates. You think WW2 Technology is going to make a difference? Heck No! The Aircraft carriers these days are not even close to the Ones at WW2! This is simple logical cant believe you havent figured that out yet!

One your British 'own' Nukes Strait from Wiki

The United Kingdom was the third country to test an independently developed nuclear weapon, in October 1952. It is one of the five "Nuclear Weapons States" (NWS) under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which the UK ratified in 1968. The UK is currently thought to retain a weapons stockpile of around 160 operational nuclear warheads and 225 nuclear warheads in total but has refused to declare the exact size of its arsenal.[2]
Since the 1958 US-UK Mutual Defence Agreement, the United States and the United Kingdom have cooperated extensively on nuclear security matters. The special relationship between the two countries has involved the exchange of classified scientific information and nuclear materials such as plutonium. The UK has not run an independent nuclear weapons delivery system development and production programme since the cancellation of the Blue Streak missile in the 1960s, instead it has pursued joint development (for its own use) of US delivery systems, designed and manufactured by Lockheed Martin, and fitting them with warheads designed and manufactured by the UK's Atomic Weapons Research Establishment and its successor the Atomic Weapons Establishment. In 1974 a US proliferation assessment noted that "In many cases [Britain's sensitive technology in nuclear and missile fields] is based on technology received from the US and could not legitimately be passed on without US permission."[3]

[RedBeard]

Your personal insult was uncalled for. I am waiting for the moderators to ban you for your personal insults which are uncalled for. First, expel NATO, then talk about military strength. No strong country joins NATO to seek American military protection.

Listen you bloody troll, Turkiye is OUR country, the country of the TURKS, WE DECIDE what happens in TURKIYE and since you are not a TURK it is not ur damn bussiness to say us what to do! Who do you think you are really? Go fix your own bloody country before critisizing a powerfull country like ours you moron.

By the way UK, France, Germany etc are weak and joined NATO for US protection too?

[RedBeard]

There should be healthy debate and arguments, that's fine. There should be no personal insults, or silly flame-baiting, nor should complete ignoramuses who have no clue about any military or industrial, or scientific or economic, or political matters ruin the thread with their teenager like rants.

I am just eager for any Turk or non Turk to prove what advantage Turkey has over Britain or Japan. Otherwise, I can also claim Bangladesh is stronger than America and Russia and China, without any proof. Silly teenage rants should not be allowed, use some facts and logic for once unless it hurts your brain so much you are afraid you would be brain-dead. In that case, I advise you to go back to read your comic books.

They are only economically stronger and that's just for now. The list is about military, our military without any doubt is one of the strongest in the world this is a fact. Check out our history if you don't understand.

[Banglar Lathial]

A brief summary of Turkish military power

1. No indigenous fighter aircraft
2. No indigenous national engine
3. No ICBM
4. No nuclear weapons
5. No SLV capability
6. No aircraft carrier
7. No LPD yet (no Turkish LPD is operational yet, no rational members should be swindled by these illiterate Turks again).
8. No nuclear powered submarines yet
9. No destroyers for its navy yet
10. An economy smaller than Australia

Turks will only troll and insult, but can not prove with facts. Their best arguments use "Wikipedia". It's not surprising that Turkey's enemy is Greece, which is considered the "sick man of European Union".

Goodbye.

[RedBeard]

A brief summary of Turkish military power

1. No indigenous fighter aircraft
2. No indigenous national engine
3. No ICBM
4. No nuclear weapons
5. No SLV capability
6. No aircraft carrier
7. No LPD yet (no Turkish LPD is operational yet, no rational members should be swindled by these illiterate Turks again).
8. No nuclear powered submarines yet
9. No destroyers for its navy yet
10. An economy smaller than Australia

Turks will only troll and insult, but can not prove with facts. Their best arguments use "Wikipedia". It's not surprising that Turkey's enemy is Greece, which is considered the "sick man of European Union".

Goodbye.

As i stated before, all of them are currently under devellopment. I'm not joking if you care to have a look at our defence section u will know. Now tell us about Bengali projects if you even have an army or economy to begin with.

[Veni]

Guys,Just ignore him(delinin biri kuyuya bi tas atmis,Bin akilli cikartamamis)

[BordoEnes]

A brief summary of Turkish military power

1. No indigenous fighter aircraft
2. No indigenous national engine
3. No ICBM
4. No nuclear weapons
5. No SLV capability
6. No aircraft carrier
7. No LPD yet (no Turkish LPD is operational yet, no rational members should be swindled by these illiterate Turks again).
8. No nuclear powered submarines yet
9. No destroyers for its navy yet
10. An economy smaller than Australia

Turks will only troll and insult, but can not prove with facts. Their best arguments use "Wikipedia". It's not surprising that Turkey's enemy is Greece, which is considered the "sick man of European Union".

Goodbye.

1. Nor does Britain and Japan (EF is Join Venture)
2. 1800Hp Powerpack on its way
3. 2500Km On its way
4. 100 B61 Nukes based at incirlick from US just like Britain, Japan dont have any at all.
5. I dont know what the Hell SLV means
6. Read my early comments there yours answer
7. As i said in earlier comment, RMK Marine with indegenious LHD in the Turkish LHD Tender
8. Nuclears Submarines have special purposes in special areas, The Medditeranian is not the Issue here.
9. Not 'Yet' Indeed. TF-2000 Still not entirly clear what type of Warship as there is already a TF-100 Frigate
10. What the Hell does Australia has to do with this?

Look at this pathetic fool. We have a brotherhood here! Turks, Pakistanis, Iranians and other groups have respect for each other and now your widely insulting Turks for what? Because your ignorance officialy made it to a higher level called jealosy and desperation! Go Find another forum where Trolls are welcome!

[ANTIBODY]

Most of the arguments can very easily be discussed in a civilized manner , i am shocked to find such comments which i generally find in 'pak-india confrontations'

[Veni]

1. Nor does Britain and Japan (EF is Join Venture)
2. 1800Hp Powerpack on its way
3. 2500Km On its way
4. 100 B61 Nukes based at incirlick from US just like Britain, Japan dont have any at all.
5. I dont know what the Hell SLV means
6. Read my early comments there yours answer
7. As i said in earlier comment, RMK Marine with indegenious LHD in the Turkish LHD Tender
8. Nuclears Submarines have special purposes in special areas, The Medditeranian is not the Issue here.
9. Not 'Yet' Indeed. TF-2000 Still not entirly clear what type of Warship as there is already a TF-100 Frigate
10. What the Hell does Australia has to do with this?

Look at this pathetic fool. We have a brotherhood here! Turks, Pakistanis, Iranians and other groups have respect for each other and now your widely insulting Turks for what? Because your ignorance officialy made it to a higher level called jealosy and desperation! Go Find another forum where Trolls are welcome!

Bro,soon he will compare us with Armenia,Qatar or UAE

[RedBeard]

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You are another Turk in this forum. For some reason Turk is often spelled as tur*s by many people, maybe Europeans also do not like you.

Ofcourse they dont like us we have not become their colonial slaves like you LOL!! instead we ruled them!! they have trembled in fear for centuries because of Turkish armies and conquests!