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    Selam every human being

    I would love to exchange spiritual quotes if you have any.

    That could be Mevlana Jelaleddini Rumi, Farrudidini Attar, Omar Hayyam or whole different person.

    I spend lots of time reading old turkish poems effected by the sufism thinking so I admire the love to human beings and Allah cella celalu.

    How about people in here? Some spiritual or Sufi quotes you like ?

    "Raise your words, not voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder." Mevlana
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    There is a language divide though. There are many quotes in Urdu(by Pakistani scholars), and their translation seems to remove much of the depth and subtlety.

    The idioms and metaphors of one language do not directly map onto another.

    That being said, I'm a big fan of Allama Iqbal's poetry, much of which is in Farsi and Urdu. I'll quote one that seems to fit the situation the Muslim world is facing:
    Dunya koh hai phir Maarka-e-Rooh-o-Badn paish
    The world faces again the fight between the spiritual and the bodily

    Tehzeeb nay phir apnay darindoon koh ubhaara
    Culture has again revealed it's vultures

    Hai Allah ko pa'amardey-e-Momin par bharosa
    Allah has faith in the consistency of the Momin

    Iblees ko Europe ki machinoon ka sahara
    Satan is supported by the machines of Europe
    It's not an exact translation so I don't know how much depth is lost... It does seem to fit so perfectly on Afghanistan. They have no airforce, no navy to fight those aircraft carriers deployed against them. After 9/11 all they requested was that the US present the evidence in an international court of law before attacking their country. I remember how arrogant the western media was, bragging about how effective the US war machine was and how ill-equipped the Afghans were compared to the US, how their satellites could see the color of your eyes from outer space, and how the Afghans would be overwhelmed within a few weeks. Now, eleven years later, the US is confined to urban "green zones", and when Pakistan blocked US supplies after the US killed 24 Pak soldiers, it was revealed that the military in Afghanistan had PAMPER shortages and had difficulty fighting without them.

    So despite the unbelievable material disparity, these guys won. And the misra/stanza beautifully describes that.
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    “I sent my soul through the invisible,
    some letter of that afterlife to spell;
    and by and by my soul returned to me,
    and answered, "I myself am Heav'n and Hell"”

    Omar Khayyam

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    Here are some of spiritual quotes of Kabir das. Sadly there meaning might get lost in translation

    "Kabeera sohi peer hai, jo jhane par peer
    jho par peer na janahi so kaphir be peer"

    Translation: - The poet Kabeer is saying one who knows about others trouble is only (Peer ) the saint. Who doesn’t know about others trouble is a person without master.

    Meaning: - Everyone should be polite and humble for others troubles

    "Dhurlabh maanush janam hai, dena baarambaar
    taruwar jo patta jhadai, bahuri na laagai daar."

    Translation: - Human life is rare give again and again a leaf that a tree dropped never attached to tree again.

    Meaning: - Human life is rare so do not waste it

    "Jyon nainan me putali, tyon maalik ghat ke maahin
    Moorakh log na jaanahin, baahar dhundhan jahin"

    Translation:-Like the pupil in our eyes the Lord resides inside us
    Ignorant do not know this truth they search Him outside in the world.

    Meaning: - The God resides inside every person one need not wonder outside in search of him.

    "Nahaaye dhoye kya bhala jo mann ka mail na jaay
    Meen sada jal mein rahe par tan ki baans na jay."

    Translation: - What happens if you have taken bath if there is dirt in your soul. A fish always live in water but the sting of the body doesn’t removes doesn’t go away.

    Meaning: -This is a very strong remark on the orthodox people in general. Who think they are better than other just because they have taken bath few times everyday and go to the temple or mosque or church to pray and follow rituals for the sake of following. Kabir Das compares these people with the fish (meen) who is always submerged in water. So she should be very clean by default. Yet, as we know, fish are one of the stingiest creatures. So the gist of this doha is that we should follow rules and regulations but not just for the sake of following. We should ultimately come to the point where they lead us, namely, love of God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qasibr View Post
    There is a language divide though. There are many quotes in Urdu(by Pakistani scholars), and their translation seems to remove much of the depth and subtlety.

    The idioms and metaphors of one language do not directly map onto another.

    That being said, I'm a big fan of Allama Iqbal's poetry, much of which is in Farsi and Urdu. I'll quote one that seems to fit the situation the Muslim world is facing:


    It's not an exact translation so I don't know how much depth is lost... It does seem to fit so perfectly on Afghanistan. They have no airforce, no navy to fight those aircraft carriers deployed against them. After 9/11 all they requested was that the US present the evidence in an international court of law before attacking their country. I remember how arrogant the western media was, bragging about how effective the US war machine was and how ill-equipped the Afghans were compared to the US, how their satellites could see the color of your eyes from outer space, and how the Afghans would be overwhelmed within a few weeks. Now, eleven years later, the US is confined to urban "green zones", and when Pakistan blocked US supplies after the US killed 24 Pak soldiers, it was revealed that the military in Afghanistan had PAMPER shortages and had difficulty fighting without them.

    So despite the unbelievable material disparity, these guys won. And the misra/stanza beautifully describes that.
    Your stupid quote ruined it. Grow up.
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    "The sun never says to the earth,
    'You owe me.'

    Look what happens with a love like that.
    It lights up the whole sky."
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    ''I am a bird, and this body was my cage''
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    "Far better it is to have a stout heart always and suffer one's share of evils, than to be ever fearing what may happen."
    (Herodotus; the Greek historian)

    "If a man does not know to what port he is sailing, no wind is favourable."
    (Lucius Annaeus Seneca; the Roman Stoic philosopher, statesman, dramatist, & humorist)
    Last edited by p(-)0ENiX; 07-07-2012 at 05:10 AM. Reason: I removed 2 proverbs because they weren't spiritual.
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    Does anybody read this person?

    Saadi (poet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    He is really good.

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    "Zindagi Amed Barai Bandagi, Zindagi Bebandagi Sharmindigi".

    Think this is Hafez but not sure, we learnt it in school. "Life is made to serve/help humanity, a life without doing this is a life of shame".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levvame View Post
    Does anybody read this person?

    Saadi (poet) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    He is really good.
    Yes, a terrible Bengali translation of Gulistan and Bostan. Gulistan is available online for free.

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    The function of prayer is not to influence God, but rather to change the nature of
    the one who prays. -Soren Kierkegaard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skallagrim View Post
    Yes, a terrible Bengali translation of Gulistan and Bostan. Gulistan is available online for free.
    Oh really? i did not knew that he was that poppular. I truly admire his closeness to Allah Cella Celalu.

    Søren Kirkegård is from Denmark a very good existentialist. No doubt he is worth listening to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levvame View Post
    Oh really? i did not knew that he was that poppular.
    Shouldn't say popular because majority of people are simply ignorant of their works. As Madrassah education has been taught to look down upon (rightly or wrongly), anything of Arab or Persian origin is simply not 'in vogue'. Many people even make fun of certain Arabic, Urdu or Persian names and words and those who have those names or use those words are pitied upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skallagrim View Post
    Shouldn't say popular because majority of people are simply ignorant of their works. As Madrassah education has been taught to look down upon (rightly or wrongly), anything of Arab or Persian origin is simply not 'in vogue'. Many people even make fun of certain Arabic, Urdu or Persian names and words and those who have those names or use those words are pitied upon.
    Well thats a shame, if only they new how wonderful the arabic and persian literature is. Specially poems.
    Its difficult to find that kind of writers these days. Girls took Allahs place in poems.
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