Things wrong with Pakistan a Pakistani Opinion

[Patriot]

Was just searching internet and came across this blog post..good read.

This past week i have been travelling a bit. I went to Islamabad to spend few days with cousins there and then back to Lahore to spend a day or two with friend and while travelling from Islamabad to Lahore i was seated with this old man he must be between 50 to 55 year old with a short grey/white beard and i thought instead of getting bored why not make small talk with him and i thought politics would get things started and it sure did.

To start with i asked him what did he thought about the current situation of Pakistan and his short answer was “ Everyone was a Thief” i partially agreed with his statement but as you know i am a total Pervez Musharraf supporter and am not afraid to admit it infront of someone who is Mullah minded and i told him that i think Pervez Musharraf and army was better than any of the 3 Top Politicians of our country i.e Benazir Bhutto , Nawaz Sharif, Asif Ali Zardari (Mr 10% ) and that really got the sparks flying he changed his tone at once and said you don’t know nothing Pakistan Army is the most corrupt and he started his long speech how the army has never done anything for Pakistan ! how Army is of no use they are good for nothing ! i kept silent but then he steered Politics towards religion the way its done in Pakistan.

After he steered everything about Pakistan towards religion i knew he was Mullah Minded and held extremist views. He stated how Pervez Musharraf had looted Pakistan for the past 8 years and have made loads of cash ! i replied if he has done all that why don’t his opponents aka Sharif Brothers file court cases against him and his reply was that Pervez Musharraf has friends in courts and that’s not possible but i really struck gold when i said that now the so famed Chief Justice is restored now you don’t have to worry about anything because Nawaz Supports him and still Nawaz Sharif hasnt filed a single court case against him! on that he kept silent.

He came back to the religious point and said how Pervez Musharraf was Qadiani or Mirzai and all his close friends his secretary Tariq Aziz was a Qadiani and how most of the army officers were Qadiani or Mirzais and how father of his wife Sehba Musharraf was a “qadiani molvi” and how Qadianis or Mirazis were at the front of making Pakistan as the first Foreign Minister of Pakistan and by this he meant to show that Qadianis or Ahmadis were at the front of making Pakistan and thats a bad thing ! and he ended his hate speech against Qadinis /Ahmadis by saying that you are too young for this and you must read history ! at this i couldn’t stop laughing in my heart because i knew all about it i knew all about Choudary Muhammad Zafrullah Khan i knew all about Ahmadis or Qadianis ! Why ? because i am one !

Yes i am Ahmadi/ Qadiani / Mirzai whatever you call us ! i thought why not tell him that i am an Ahmadi but then i changed my mind because already our community is being persecuted in Pakistan because of our religion and some TV programs like “Aaalim Online” of GeoTV have already incited murder of our community members !

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Police Erasing Kalima from Ahmadiyya Mosque

I always hear people saying that Ahmadis or Qadianis are not loyal towards Pakistan so here i would like to mention some of the people from Ahmadiyya Community who spent their life serving Pakistan but were forgotten because they were Ahmadis and not to mention those same mullahs who incite hatred against Ahmadis and suggest that Ahmadis are not loyal to Pakistan were the same ones who opposed the creation of Pakistan in the first place.

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Chaudhry Muhammad Zafarullah Khan:

* Represented the Muslims at round table conference.
* Became British India’s representative to the League of Nation.
* His greatest contribution came when he drafted the famous Lahore Resolution.
* On 25th December 1947, Jinnah appointed him the Foreign Minister of Pakistan.
* It was Zafrullah whose efforts materialized into the UN Resolutions on Kashmir.
* First Asian president of the International Court of Justice.
* Also served, briefly, as the President of the UN General Assembly.



Dr. Abdus Salam : The tragedy of our treatment of Dr Abdus Salamdr_abdus_salam

First Pakistani to get a Nobel Prize in 1979.

he refused to give up his Pakistani nationality and acquire another that respected him more.

During the early 1960s Salam played a very significant role in establishing the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) – the atomic research agency of Pakistan – and Space and Upper Atmosphere Research Commission (SUPARCO) – the space research agency of Pakistan, of which he was the founding director.

He was founder and Director of the International Centre for Theoretical Physics (ICTP), Trieste, Italy from 1964 to December 1993 after he was not allowed to establish the center in Pakistan due to his religion. So he opened the center in Italy and even now Pakistani and Muslims students are more welcomed. (The Centre has since been renamed, the Abdus Salam International Centre for Theoretical Physics).

Things Wrong with Pakistan | Ehsan

[Silent observer]

excellent artcle

it is a shame what we had done in the past and what we are doing now a days. this mullah culture is one of the biggest disaster for our country. i dont understand, why we keep on looking other peoples personal matters (like religion etc) and giving judgemnets of their honesty instead of correcting the problems present in our ownselves.

i hope we start learning from our mistakes and take every step to make pakistan a better place, Ameen.

regards

sincerely

[greatsequence]

Cases will be filed soon against Musharaf. At the moment army is trying through Brig Imtiaz to make every one forget about their ex chief but I dont think it is going to fade away. MQM is already threatening by saying nobody has balls to touch Musharaf.
I am not sure but I have heared that army doesnot allow any Qadiyani to be above colonel rank. Lets see what you have to say about this regarding your so much love for Army.

[Patriot]

Don't put Political stuff in this thread please.This is regarding our narrow mindness.Well, if Musharraf father in Law of a brig so if he was in fact qaidini then i don't think there is any such law in army.It would be stupid to implement such law.In fact we also had a qaidini general during 65 war.It was mainly General Zia who messed things up.

[Musalman]

There was discrimination toward Qadyanis during Zia, then there was discrimination towards every sect in Army and in civilian life. BTW the picture in the blog showing police erasing kalima from their mosque is of the time when they were declared non muslims, nearly 36 years ago. Why they were declared non-muslim, coz they do not believe Muhammad (SAW) was the last Prophet. Rest who is Muslim, Allah(SWT) knows best. They are not allowed to show anything Islamic publically but they are allowed built their mosques, but they can not look like mosques of Shia and Sunni Muslims, coz that can create troubles for them more then for the people who are not Qadyanis.
Now about they being anti Pakistani is totally bull ****, since many of our war heros were Qadyanis like the man who commanded the tanks in my Chawinda was a Qadyani .

[Silent observer]

Originally Posted by greatsequence

I am not sure but I have heared that army doesnot allow any Qadiyani to be above colonel rank. Lets see what you have to say about this regarding your so much love for Army.

i do not know about qadiyanis but i know that a christian (minority population group of pakistan--non-muslim) who became maj general in Pak army and retd in late 90s. so i think, this thing is not true about qadiyanis (non-muslims as well) that they can not get promoted beyond col rank.

regards

sincerely

[U-571]

this whole article is a load of BS, there is something wrong with the head of this writer. its good he has exposed he's qadiani, not to mention, ahmed rushdi who wrote satanic verses. quadianis are themselves to be blamed who just like jews have incited hatred against themselves. qadiani was created by colonial british to divide muslims.

the biggest propaganda is, there is a third party and the associated group of writers who write these crappy materials, so that they could some what incite an ideological and identity crises in pakistan. i am sure many qadianis are sold out for that purpose, in UK, america etc.

no one hates qadiani. qadiani were declared non muslims not in zia ul haq's time but in ZA bhutto's time.

musharraf didnt loot the country, but his puppet party PML-Q did all corruption in presence of this man. in musharraf's time we had all sorts of crises, power crises, inflation, security crises, emergency declaration crises, insurgency in capital crises, it all started with musharraf. i think musharraf is liked by this man because he has some agenda not because he admires this man as a perfect ruler. i should say these people like musharraf, ZA bhutto, ayub khan have all made problems for pakistan. we pakistanis have to embrace one and only one direction by which we can proceed forward.

we are still following musharraf's legacy and thats why our country is in a deep sh!t. this was the same musharraf who supported benazir, brought her home and cleared her of all corruption, murder charges, just to feel comfortable in his chair, he didnt even think about his pakistan then.

Originally Posted by Musalman

There was discrimination toward Qadyanis during Zia, then there was discrimination towards every sect in Army and in civilian life. BTW the picture in the blog showing police erasing kalima from their mosque is of the time when they were declared non muslims, nearly 36 years ago. Why they were declared non-muslim, coz they do not believe Muhammad (SAW) was the last Prophet. Rest who is Muslim, Allah(SWT) knows best. They are not allowed to show anything Islamic publically but they are allowed built their mosques, but they can not look like mosques of Shia and Sunni Muslims, coz that can create troubles for them more then for the people who are not Qadyanis.
Now about they being anti Pakistani is totally bull ****, since many of our war heros were Qadyanis like the man who commanded the tanks in my Chawinda was a Qadyani .

p.s there's a news from japan and other country's that these qadiani sc.ums are propagating there false religion with lies under the name of islam and misleading people. they are liars and fitna, these people should be exterminated.

not to forget i wasted fifteen minutes reading this sh!t and typing, regretfull =[

[Meesna]

Originally Posted by U-571

no one hates qadiani.

Originally Posted by U-571

these people should be exterminated.

Hmm....

[U-571]

^ read my lines carefully bro

[Patriot]

Oh before posting big load of crap read my post that no political discussion here please but your bias against Qaidinis can be easily observed from your post.

[naveed qaiser]

Supporter of a devil is also a devil. Some rotten eggs( ever benefited by dictators) supported autocracy for personal agendas. I am no more doubtful that such people are worst enemy of this soil compared to dictator because they are promoter of this autocracy.

Comparing autocracy with democracy, I simply say that one year of democracy is better than thousand years of dictatorship. It was the democracy that saved this country whenever dictatorship tried to destroy this country.
One should not forget the situation of Pakistan just before the advent of a democratic set up and end of darkest period of autocracy. Today Pakistan is thousand times much better than time of a dictator, it is the fruit of democracy and sacrifices of democratic powers.

[Patriot]

Oh for christ sake how many times i have to tell you guys this thread is not about Politics at all.Just ignore the Musharraf part.