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    Post U.S. Military May Deploy F-35 Before Formal IOC



    U.S. Military May Deploy F-35 Before Formal IOC

    The U.S. military may deploy the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) before the tri-service fighter is formally declared Initial Operational Capable (IOC), top uniformed officials told Congress on May 24.

    While the U.S. Marine Corps has always maintained that it would declare IOC with interim Block 2B software, the U.S. Air Force and U.S. Navy require that the aircraft be fielded with Block 3 software before the jet is formally declared operational.

    However, in testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee, leaders from both services said they would consider deploying the fifth-generation stealth fighter into combat zones with interim Block 2B software provided that there were no safety concerns.

    "If the combatant commander said, 'bring me this capability,' then we clearly would provide it," said Air Force Lt. Gen. Herbert Carlisle, the service's deputy chief of staff for operations, plans and requirements.

    The Navy's director of warfare integration, Rear Adm. David Philman, who was also testifying, concurred.

    "I don't see any reason we wouldn't be able to be told to go into theater, assuming all the safety considerations have been taken care of," he said.

    Both the Navy and the Air Force would have some number of the aircraft prior to any IOC date, but the specifics of how many planes would be available is not yet known.

    "We will have a number, probably on the order of a 100, airplanes delivered to operational units before we declare Initial Operational Capability," Carlisle said. "Clearly, although we may not declare IOC, we'll be training, we'll be doing the tactics, training and procedures with the Block 2."

    The maintenance and logistical systems would also be built during that period, he said.

    Philman said the Navy would have some aircraft available but not as many as the Air Force.

    Marine Lt. Gen. Terry Robling, that service's deputy commandant for aviation, who was testifying alongside Carlisle and Philman, said that his service still plans to declare IOC with the interim Block 2B software and would have about 50 F-35s available near that time. He said IOC for the Marines is now estimated to fall between 2014 and 2015, which is a two-year slip.

    Even with the interim software, the F-35 would be vastly more capable than existing warplanes, they said.

    "There is a lot of capability even in the Block 2 airplanes that look very impressive," Carlisle said.

    However, the Air Force and the Navy will both insist upon Block 3 hardware and software for their formal IOC declarations, both Carlisle and Philman said.

    Insisting on the Block 3 configuration allows the Pentagon to keep the pressure on Lockheed Martin, the contractor that builds the F-35.

    "I'll be perfectly frank: In a lot of cases, if you delay an IOC, you can maintain pressure on a contractor," Carlisle said.

    IOC for the Air Force and Navy, like the Marines, will slip by about two years from 2016, Carlisle and Philman said. None of the three services has set a fixed IOC date, but Philman said the 2016 date is no longer valid.



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    Default Re: U.S. Military May Deploy F-35 Before Formal IOC

    How assuring would it be for the potential buyers I wonder?

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    Default Re: U.S. Military May Deploy F-35 Before Formal IOC

    Quote Originally Posted by Obambam View Post
    How assuring would it be for the potential buyers I wonder?
    It will actually boost the buyers confidence, they are going to deploy it even before it gets IOC! I fail to see your logic.

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    Default Re: U.S. Military May Deploy F-35 Before Formal IOC

    Quote Originally Posted by roy_gourav View Post
    It will actually boost the buyers confidence, they are going to deploy it even before it gets IOC! I fail to see your logic.
    That.. or they are pushing an incomplete system into service, which may be a potential disaster..
    In any case, the A model would never be effected, its the B model that needed to be kicked.

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    Default Re: U.S. Military May Deploy F-35 Before Formal IOC

    As the USAF said , Block 2B F35 will still be far better than any 4th/4.5 gen fighter available today , and might even trump J20
    What feel is that US might be planning to field this fighter before PLAAF field the J20
    They might even use the 150 odd F35 which they will have before IOC , in combat against Countries Like Libya or IRAN

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    Default Re: U.S. Military May Deploy F-35 Before Formal IOC



    Quote Originally Posted by roy_gourav View Post
    It will actually boost the buyers confidence, they are going to deploy it even before it gets IOC! I fail to see your logic.
    The F-35 Lightning II strike fighter has previously undisclosed problems with its handling, avionics, afterburner and helmet-mounted display, according to a report by the Pentagon’s Director of Operational Test and Evaluation.

    Both the U.S. Air Force F-35A variant and U.S. Marine Corps’ F-35B model experienced “transonic wing roll-off, [and] greater than expected sideslip during medium angle-of-attack testing,” the report said.

    The report also says that various components are not as reliable as expected.
    and you are talking about how it will boost buyers confidence by having them prior to IOC? I simply see poor man desperate for some money. I hope buyers see some sense before purchase. At least wait until America have several hundreds in service before writing out a cheque
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