Iran Eying Manufacture of Vertical Climb Aircraft

[Crive]

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about those who talking about iran should make a 4 or 4.5 generation first
i have a simple question?
why a country that have limited resources waste money on mass production of something that cant stand today technologies

thats what we do you see,research and spending money defiantly is cheaper than making 4th generation
so you should look at iran perspective to undrestand why we doing this
we have enough stuff to stop US from attacking us in other hand we can not wait and see them in our backyard for another 20years so hear is the thing we upgrade our current weapon meanwhile not wasting money on something we don't understand just buying for reverse engineering ,our viewpoint is to become a superpower if want to be something like that you should make your own latest generation aircraft and etc,
so all im saying is that there is a point in fact that we dont waste money on 4th generation production and it does not means that we dont have the technologies iran invested lots of money 10 years ago on turbofan and from lots i mean more than 4 or 5bilion.

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What abilities?

ability to move your home from where you live to Cyprus

[somebozo]

Iran due to sanctions imposed by the world cannot procure high end engineering software and equipment easily..so this serves only as propoganda!

[Banglar Lathial]

It could be a bluff by Iranian minister (low probability), or it could be the reality (high probability). My doubt is not on whether Iranian researchers can develop such platforms, but whether Iran would actually develop them, mass-produce and then induct them into its airforces. This entire process is long and costly too. That's why I have my doubts on whether any such planes will be inducted but it is certainly possible that Iran is researching them.

Before Iran sent satellites to space on its own rockets, I never read any Western ignorant media report that Iran could do it. Before Iran downed RQ-170 Sentinel, no Western media suggested Iran could do it. And when Iran is under intense sanctions and negatively portrayed in Western media (because of "Islamic" regime in place, not because it is Shia/etc, so any "Sunni" that aligns with the West should check his own head), Iran happens to be the fastest growing scientific power in the world.

[anon45]

Sounds like domestic consumption

- its just studies

-this is the sort of project that takes at least a decade from the point of studying, a decade in which the fate of Iran is decided one way or another with regard to the nuclear issue. This won't play any role in that, aside from perhaps siphoning off a bit of money from short term goals.

- related to the point above, there are surely more effective uses for the money spent on these studies than this considering Iran's current geopolitical situation... unless they are banking on no conflict for at least a decade?

In anycase this seems to be chest thumping, not actual capability building.

[regular]

about those who talking about iran should make a 4 or 4.5 generation first
i have a simple question?
why a country that have limited resources waste money on mass production of something that cant stand today technologies

thats what we do you see,research and spending money defiantly is cheaper than making 4th generation
so you should look at iran perspective to undrestand why we doing this
we have enough stuff to stop US from attacking us in other hand we can not wait and see them in our backyard for another 20years so hear is the thing we upgrade our current weapon meanwhile not wasting money on something we don't understand just buying for reverse engineering ,our viewpoint is to become a superpower if want to be something like that you should make your own latest generation aircraft and etc,
so all im saying is that there is a point in fact that we dont waste money on 4th generation production and it does not means that we dont have the technologies iran invested lots of money 10 years ago on turbofan and from lots i mean more than 4 or 5bilion.
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The problem is that without mastering the 4rth generation technology its impossible to build 5th generation aircrafts cuz the 5th generation aircrafts are built on the principles/basics of 4rth generation aircrafts......

[illuminatidinesh]

i didnt say that this is a VTOL one.also we dont need a VTOL fighter.
oops maybe i dont know the meaning of the VTOL!?is it Vertical Taking Off and Landing?

Ofcourse.....

[IndoUS]

i didnt say that this is a VTOL one.also we dont need a VTOL fighter.
oops maybe i dont know the meaning of the VTOL!?is it Vertical Taking Off and Landing?

Is Iran going for a Jet, or is it something like V-22 Osprey type aircraft. Because if its VTOL like the Harriers, then Iran might run into some trouble in management of the directional thrust and the control of thrust output while the the aircraft is doing VTOL. No offense not saying that Iran will not achieve, but it will take a lot of time.

[Harry_Thomason]

-this is the sort of project that takes at least a decade from the point of studying, a decade in which the fate of Iran is decided one way or another with regard to the nuclear issue. This won't play any role in that, aside from perhaps siphoning off a bit of money from short term goals.

Thats the thing, for Iran nuclear issue isnt the end-all be-all. There are a lot of projects who have nothing to do with either nuclear program, or possible war. Country would actually harm itself focusing on these two, so its normal to evaluate VTOL, etc. for the future.

[kollang]

Is Iran going for a Jet, or is it something like V-22 Osprey type aircraft. Because if its VTOL like the Harriers, then Iran might run into some trouble in management of the directional thrust and the control of thrust output while the the aircraft is doing VTOL. No offense not saying that Iran will not achieve, but it will take a lot of time.

that must be a fighter not a sth like v-22.
by the way i think we need a iranian 4.5 or 5 st gen fighter soon and we have to buy some su-30 too.

[Al Bhatti]

it will be 5th gen fighter.im sure

Come on leak the news, tell the world you are working on 6th generation fighter AC.

No harm in leaking the news.

[Loki]

Just buy an used Harrier off the market and reverse engineer it.

I don't think they can do that.

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

If anyone can do it in Asia , Iran can do it no doubt

a) Highest Research and Development in Asia
b) PHD , and engineering minded people

Iranians are Germany of Asia , I mean they are they just have the Genetics to Engineer stuff .. better then most

Vertical Liftoff is nothing but , control and redirect of the jet stream from behind to bottom of plane , and while maintaining balance (via software)

If USA can do it with Immigrant Chinese engineers I am sure Iran can also achieve it



They already have mastered vertical take off via rocket .....

If you have enough engineers you can certainly create a vertical liftoff plane

[IndoUS]

If anyone can do it in Asia , Iran can do it no doubt

a) Highest Research and Development in Asia
b) PHD , and engineering minded people

Iranians are Germany of Asia , I mean they are they just have the Genetics to Engineer stuff .. better then most

Not really the Germany of Asia, but sure they are going in the right direction. I consider countries like Japan, China and South Korea as the Germany of Asia. The thing is there is a huge problem of boasting in these parts of the world (South Asia) look at the west, they test their equipment before making it public. It would be better for countries to actually make the things first and then make it public other wise it makes a laughing stock. Best examples are some of the projects of DRDO.

[Loki]

Not really the Germany of Asia, but sure they are going in the right direction. I consider countries like Japan, China and South Korea as the Germany of Asia. The thing is there is a huge problem of boasting in these parts of the world (South Asia) look at the west, they test their equipment before making it public. It would be better for countries to actually make the things first and then make it public other wise it makes a laughing stock. Best examples are some of the projects of DRDO.

Germany of the Islamic World to be precise.

[PERSIAN GOD KING]

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Lets just wait and see, they are working on another fighter program anyway.