BTW, Egypt has the 4th largest F-16 fleet, yet none of those F-16's are BVR capable. Egypt also has a very large Abrams fleet, but the major components for the Tank are imported from the USA and their armor is downgraded, so yes, JF-17 and Al-Khalid are superior.
I can't really compare to Jordanian Tanks since i don't know their specifications.
Last edited by Desert Fox; 04-07-2012 at 03:33 AM.
For KSA incompetent leadership , this is a correct decision a) what ever USA advises them is complete truth (buy more) - these idiots even have AWACs for heavens sake and b) The spectre of IRAN
Just as an FYI , poor Candians cannot even buy 10 F-35 , please see the brewing scandal below
Auditor General Michael Ferguson reported that the government initially estimated it would cost $25 billion to buy and operate 65 F-35 planes over 20 years. But the Department of National Defence later claimed this would come in at under $15 billion.
During the 2011 election campaign, Harper repeatedly claimed that the program would cost $16 billion, even though the parliamentary budget officer, Kevin Page, had pegged the price at $29 billion.
We both have to agree that 95% of world countries are vulnerable to sanctions, even UK doesn't produce all Eurofighter components. Egypt does manufacture 95% of Abrams A1 A2 and this is from Egyptian military minister:
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Its your problem if you don't know Arabic.
Would appreciate it if you could find me English sources stating that Egypt manufactures 95% of Abrams.
BTW, this is what i posted before but it seems you either didn't read it or you purposely ignored it:
"Under the terms of this first MoU some 40 per cent of the tank's components would be manufactured in Egypt with the remainder being produced in the US and shipped to Egypt for final assembly."
Egyptian production of the United States M1A1 Abrams MBT (Egypt) - Jane's Armour and Artillery
And this is from Janes defence, a reliable and reputable source.
We have access to much superior Military Technologies and Equipment NOW. Later we might not have that pleasure so we better make the best use of it while we can. Making JVs with Pakistan is commendable of course and I am all for it but perhaps after our ToT thrive for the best we can get and the world has to offer. We can offer much better.
You all have to face it KSA is not just a country dripping with oil and money anymore. We have our own engineers and technicians now who are on par with the world's finest and many more are yet to come in what is termed as the "Largest education undertaken in this century".
Soon with the amount of ToT, training and expertise being developed in KSA, Other countries might be the ones who will start begging for JVs with us instead.
Last edited by Malik Alashter; 04-07-2012 at 05:02 AM.
we are happy for u! lets hope these engineers have'nt paid there way through uni's ,tell u wat a student in aeronatics a muslim also got scholar ship in some of ur uni he went happily there hoping he would be able to enjoy the warmth of the muslim bortherhood ,ofcourse we pakistni's his mates warned him of the racism of our arab brethren (the guy was a black guy) after 3 months the guy came runing back after doing umrah bcuz he could'nt stand the arab attitude towards his color unfortunately they could'nt stand his color ,anyways the guy is brilliant at his studies and now he is going for phd in usa where usa is happily accepting him into there society,why tell this long story to tell u why america is still powerfull and u are not bcuz america can accomodate and absorb brilliant minds into their society u can't since u think u r the chosen ppl,all other ur own engineers i can imagine ho wgood they will be ! lets see if they can make a single missile indigenously,pakistanis did that even though we had no money and the whole world was after us unlike the arabian case,no one else but arabs are responsible for polarising the ummah ,so i think we pakistanis would prefer to be in a alliance with china any day rather then arabs who think they ae the chosen ones.huh!
i will ask them sure but when they have freedom of speech,when they ar ein pak or better in west
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