Last edited by BronzePlaque; 04-21-2012 at 06:08 AM.
You got a problem with that i care for the well being of Azerbaijan. I stand for Azerbaijani commoner citizens who are suffering at the hands of Aliyev & Jewish Co. They rule Azerbaijan as a farm.
If Joo has a problem with being himself, he should blame their God/Elohim.
Last edited by BronzePlaque; 04-21-2012 at 01:55 PM. Reason: typo
Israel does perfect things regarding AT missile technologies and Those efforts deserve to be appreciated indeed. In terms of product range, So less countries can come close to Israeli engineers effort in Worldwide Spike series, Lahat.
but Don't forget that Turkey is also on right track and developing similar concepts. For example, Cirit is the first 2.75 Inch missile system to be passed into serial production worldwide.
Spike ER== UMTAS
Spike LR== OMTAS
Spike MR, Javelin == KMTAS
and Roketsan Cirit as well...
Last edited by cabatli_53; 04-21-2012 at 04:21 PM.
The performance of the systems are important indeed and I think Noone have any doubt about quality standarts of Turkey's developed NATO systems but Even If you have the best of the World, You can't sell your toys to a country you don't have good relations. I mean The influence and good relations between states are vital to make defence trades.
In this aspect, There is a visible problems between Turkey and Azerbaijan who calls eachother as "brothers" in the latest years. If a man call another as brother, It means Relations between two are different than usual.
If you ask me, For exm. I always imagine a brother state who support brother's politic standings/defence programs against rivals, choose brother's defence products for own requirements, always give main priority to brother at international tenders, never regret the demands of a brother state which will be benefical for his future as well. All in all, We are the countries who identify ourselves as "two state one nation".
At this prospect, I will list the defence programs Azerbaijan's brother state, Turkey, officially invited brother Azerbaijan to join them for self reliance and clear futures for security of two brotherly states. Many times, Not only undersecretariat of Turkish defence industry, but also Ministery of National defence arranged many visits to Azerbaijan and told the importance of joining those programs. What did they tell to Azerbaijan ?
Equal partnership as brothers, National production and co-production at export markets, additional investments to open new facilities to accelerate the serial production phases...etc
A picture from countless meeting
If you pay attention to images, You can see the officials from Roketsan, Aselsan, MKEK, FNSS...etc.
What are those programs Turkey officially invited Azerbaijan for participation ?
-ALTAY MBT (seekeing for Ukrainian tank)
-T-129 ATAK attack helicopter (Ordering Russian helo)
-Infantry Rifle ( Israeli and Russian rifles)
-Low and Medium Altitude SAM programs (Selected Israel)
-IFV (meeting with Ukraine)
-ANKA MALE UAV (Selected Israel)
-Wheeled armoured vehicles
Unfortunately, All those offers have been rejected by brother Azerbaijan.
Most probably, The main reason of Azerbaijani choices are about urgent need and I am a littile bit wrong and emotional While describing the brotherhood..
Last edited by cabatli_53; 04-21-2012 at 05:08 PM.
Bros, the main problem here is time and geopolitics of Azerbaijan..These Turkish systems are in development phase and will take time..Azeri Turks need specified systems above now..I can understand their sentiment about this issue..And about geopolitics, which country is Azerbaijan`s sworn enemy? Armenia..And which country is Armenia`s ally, best friend in the region? Iran..So my opinion is that Azeri Turks are trying to balance or counter this relation with her new ally, Israel..
Urgent need, geopolitics... However you call it. All in all The programs Turkey offered to Azerbaijan was mid-term solution to imporve industrial capabilities of both country for self reliance.
Anyway, That's what I wanted to see from Turkiye side. Take a look How author is proudly introducing IDEF 2011, How telling Turkish and Azerbaijani weapons as own proud achievements...
Cabatli, Mi-35M order was for Border Troops, not Air Force. So Air Force can still get new attack helicopters.
According to this website, which is a reliable source (Rashad Suleymanov, military journalist) Azerbaijan and Turkey plan to sign a contract for T-129 ATAK in middle of this year.
Last edited by ASQ-1918; 04-21-2012 at 08:00 PM.
As mentioned, Azerbaijan have a need in modern potent weapon systems, Turkey couldn't provide them with such systems.
we can provide everything it needs expect fighter jets , and a few more things which we cant produce , so cant isreal they dnt , we offer joint production aswell dont worry in a few years they will buy more annd more from us they already buy some but who can they trust more than their brother
in the vid the guy said azerbaijan need improve navy and they said they are thinking to buy our navy equipment ships etc thats good , the stronger azerbaijan gets the more happy we will be
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