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    I seriously hope Bangladesh attacks India for what India did by killing innocent Bangladeshis... Pakistan Army's action was only a response to Mukti Bahini killing East Pakistanis.

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    What a two-faced lying woman. She was giving this interview while she was involved in Conspiracy to attack East Pakistan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalu_miah View Post
    That was not an answer to my question. Here it is again, do you want to deny that there is an extensive RAW operation within Bangladesh?
    How would I know, am just an average guy. You can't just assume these sorta things based on your paranoia. Am sure there are some Indian agents in Bangladesh and Bangladeshi agents in India, but this is not something laymen like you and me will be privy to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalu_miah View Post
    If it is not worth your time, withdraw your embassy then talk.

    That was not an answer to my question. Here it is again, do you want to deny that there is an extensive RAW operation within Bangladesh?
    Every country in this world has an embassy in other nations. Even irrelevant countries like Kenya has embassies.Doest mean that we care enough about Bangladesh to actually utilize our precious RAW resources in your country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neutral_person View Post
    Every country in this world has an embassy in other nations. Even irrelevant countries like Kenya has embassies.Doest mean that we care enough about Bangladesh to actually utilize our precious RAW resources in your country.
    Keep your lies for somebody else, what do you think we are idiots? Your great B Raman says in his book, you have extensive RAW operation in every neighbor country. Did you even read the posts in this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalu_miah View Post
    Keep your lies for somebody else, what do you think we are idiots? Your great B Raman says in his book, you have extensive RAW operation in every neighbor country. Did you even read the posts in this thread?
    Of course, RAW is the best. I dont expect any less from it. It might be a surprise for you, but not for me.

    That being said, as a guy who actually knows a couple people that have worked in RAW, I will tell you that Bangladesh is not even in the top 10 list of countries under RAW watch. Whether you believe it or not is upto you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roybot View Post
    How would I know, am just an average guy. You can't just assume these sorta things based on your paranoia. Am sure there are some Indian agents in Bangladesh and Bangladeshi agents in India, but this is not something laymen like you and me will be privy to.
    Good, at least you are acknowledging that you don't know and that its possible. Now consider this, you have a bigger country, but you only have one RAW, so your RAW budget is bigger than our DGFI budget. Now what do they do with this budget? They try to protect Indian interest in other countries.

    It is a well known fact that Awami League has been involved with RAW since before 1971 and it is also well known to the knowledgeable people in Bangladesh that Awami League is still very close to India and perhaps RAW. People also suspect that India through RAW helps Awami League win election so that when it comes to power it helps India out. Since Hasina came to power ULFA leaders were caught and given to India, although Bangladesh had no extradition treaty. This shows evidence of that assertion. Note that in this instance, personally, I think they did the right thing, but how can they break the law of the land to help India?

    Now if you knew that Congress of India was being funded and controlled by another country, lets say USA, via EU or Italy, would Indian people feel good about this fact, would Indians not try to make a big fuss and try to kick Congress out of power?

    This is what we want to do in Bangladesh. We know for a fact that Awami League closeness with India never went away, it is a symbiotic relationship, and it is harmful to Bangladesh national interest.

    So as long as Awami League is in power in Bangladesh, we will bitcn about India, RAW and Awami League, so our Bangladeshi people are aware of what is going on. It is our small way of informing our populace about facts that they do not know about and inform them about true story of Awami League.

    India has to find a better way of dealing with its neighbors. Just like ISI was poking nose in Nagaland since 1956 and India returned the favor in kind, you will be mistaken to think that we will remain weak forever. Make no mistake, when we get a chance we will also return the favor. So hands off please, that is all we ask. Only then we can start working on our other mutual issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalu_miah View Post
    Good, at least you are acknowledging that you don't know and that its possible. Now consider this, you have a bigger country, but you only have one RAW, so your RAW budget is bigger than our DGFI budget. Now what do they do with this budget? They try to protect Indian interest in other countries.

    It is a well known fact that Awami League has been involved with RAW since before 1971 and it is also well known to the knowledgeable people in Bangladesh that Awami League is still very close to India and perhaps RAW. People also suspect that India through RAW helps Awami League win election so that when it comes to power it helps India out. Since Hasina came to power ULFA leaders were caught and given to India, although Bangladesh had no extradition treaty. This shows evidence of that assertion.

    Now if you knew that Congress of India was being funded and controlled by another country, lets say USA, via EU or Italy, would Indian people feel good about this fact, would Indians not try to make a big deal and try to kick Congress out of power?

    This is what we want to do in Bangladesh. We know for a fact that Awami League closeness with India never went away, it is a symbiotic relationship, and it is harmful to Bangladesh national interest.

    So as long as Awami League is in power in Bangladesh, we will bitcn about India, RAW and Awami League, so our Bangladeshi people are aware of what is going on. It is our small way of informing our populace about facts that they do not know about and inform them about true story of Awami League.

    India has to find a better way of dealing with its neighbors. Just like ISI was poking nose in Nagaland since 1956 and India returned the favor in kind, you will be mistaken to think that we will remain weak forever. Make no mistake, when we get a chance we will also return the favor. So hands off please, that is all we ask. Only then we can start working on our other mutual issues.
    BD people voted for Awami League, so blame and bitc h about BD people if you have to(because according to you they are dumb to not be able to see that AL = RAW). We dont care about what happens in BD. Just keep us out of your conversation topics, and you wont be seeing me here. The moment you start opening your trap about India, you will see me here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neutral_person View Post
    Of course, RAW is the best. I dont expect any less from it. It might be a surprise for you, but not for me.

    That being said, as a guy who actually knows a couple people that have worked in RAW, I will tell you that Bangladesh is not even in the top 10 list of countries under RAW watch. Whether you believe it or not is upto you...
    A country the size of India having economic interest spanning the globe will have many priorities. But RAW operations, as per B Raman is of a different nature in the neighbor countries. Try reading the book please, in the OP. You may be surprised. I have read part of it. After I finish it, I will be able to comment with more details.
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    @ Who says we are weak ? We have broken their necks on the "Padua Operation" in 2000. Eye witness says our BDR killed almost 400 BSF. No ! it was not only BSF even their regular army in BSF dressed.
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    To many conspiracy theories, so many chest-thumping.....

    Present facts with evidence, otherwise your statements are figment of your imagination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neutral_person View Post
    BD people voted for Awami League, so blame and bitc h about BD people if you have to(because according to you they are dumb to not be able to see that AL = RAW). We dont care about what happens in BD. Just keep us out of your conversation topics, and you wont be seeing me here. The moment you start opening your trap about India, you will see me here.
    Oh yeah, then get used to it, because RAWami's and India are tied to the hip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neutral_person View Post
    I do feel bad for the Bihari Muslims. Pre 1947, they probably had the highest literacy and financial status on par with high caste Hindus when they were living in Bihar. After 1947, they chose to migrate to greener pastures in Pakistna, and now they are "Dhobi ka kuttttah, na ghar ka na ghat ka". They are called Muhajirs in Pakistan, hated in Bangladesh, and cant go back to Bihar in India. SO i understand the point of views of poor frustrated Rajakars here in PDF like Al-Zakir
    @ Making "Maskkura" with the ethnic Bihares ? In 1946 once a riot broke in Bihar you killed all most 50,000 muslim Bihares. That was the reason they were forced to evict from Bihar. Once these people were settled in East Pakistan with full grip, you planned and instigate to eliminate them from the Eastern Sector so that it became easiler for you people to implement your grand design, "The Akhand Bharat".
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    Quote Originally Posted by fallstuff View Post
    Nice building.

    This school maybe just too expensIve and full of hot air like the Apollo hospItal.

    Seems like folks with Bihari origin are more willing to entertain the RAW boogyman involvement.
    Any specific poster you are referring to who is of Bihari origin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRAIT View Post
    To many conspiracy theories, so many chest-thumping.....

    Present facts with evidence, otherwise your statements are figment of your imagination.
    This thread is about a RAW involvement in a previous time period before March 25, 1971, for that period I provided sufficient evidence.

    As for the current situation between Awami League and RAW, ULFA leaders capture and handing over is one such evidence. But this is not the topic on this thread.


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