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    YouTube - PAKISTAN AIR FORCE WORLD RECORD.FIVE INDIAN A/C DESTROYED
    KOI DETAIL BATAYE GA SABRE OR HUNTERS KI

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    Another good amateur PAF video:

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    Quote Originally Posted by HASANITALIA View Post

    try to buy this book "DEFENDERS OF PAKISTAN" by John Fricker. it is the most authentic narrative of PAF combat action during the 65 war.

    there is a detailed comparison of the F-86 Sabre and the Hawker Hunter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatman17 View Post
    try to buy this book "DEFENDERS OF PAKISTAN" by John Fricker. it is the most authentic narrative of PAF combat action during the 65 war.

    there is a detailed comparison of the F-86 Sabre and the Hawker Hunter.
    sorry i made an error
    the name of the book is BATTLE FOR PAKISTAN.
    another very good book on the PAF is called FIZAYA - the psyche of the PAF by Pushpindar Singh who gives a grudging admiration for the PAF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatman17 View Post
    try to buy this book "DEFENDERS OF PAKISTAN" by John Fricker. it is the most authentic narrative of PAF combat action during the 65 war.

    there is a detailed comparison of the F-86 Sabre and the Hawker Hunter.
    Or get another more up-to-date and recent book titled "Air warfare in the missile age" by Lon Nordeen. An excellent resource for contemporary air combat covering all of the recent campaigns including Indo-Pakistan and others like Iran-Iraq, Afghan War etc.
    Amazon.com: Air Warfare in the Missile Age: Books: Lon O. Nordeen
    The author treats all of the campaigns in an unbiased and factual basis.

    I found this to be an excellent buy and a welcome alternate to the oft quoted John Fricker book (the book is not about PAF and IAF only, amazing detail and coverage from the Korean war to the Gulf War and Kosovo campaigns and all that in between).
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    blain2

    u may be right but it depends on one's interest. PAF v. IAF for me is a top read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatman17 View Post
    blain2

    u may be right but it depends on one's interest. PAF v. IAF for me is a top read.
    Understood, but you do not see any more recent books exclusively on the topic of your interest. The book I recommended is a recent one and actually has some of those interesting details like the # of AAMs expended during the war and sortie rates etc.

    I just thought it was a bit more refreshing than the older books that's all.

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    If you want to compare Hawker Hunter and F-86 Sabre, please follow the link below:

    militaryfactory com

    and if you are interested in M.M. Alam then read below

    M. M. Alam
    Former Pakistan Airforce Pilot & the only ace in the Soth Asian region.

    M.M.Alam or Muhammad Mahmood Alam was from East Pakistan (Now Bangladesh). He joined PAF & was drafted to fly PAF's 2nd mainstay mass attack fighters F-86 Sabres. He was stationed at Sargodah in West Pakistan rather than in his home wing of East Pakistan.

    In 1965 India declared war over Pakistan. During the war the IAF thought the end to the Sargodah airfield will bring end to the continious & successful PAF attacks over IAF airfields. In order to do so IAF sent its fighters Sargodah. M.M.Alam on of the 1st pilots to respond to the warnings of these IAF intruders took to the skies, very little he knew that the battle he is about to fight will leave a mark on military aviation history in the region.

    M.M.Alam came across 5 IAF & shot them down in less than one minuite, a record time by any ACE.

    In 1971 East & West Pakistan went to bloody civil war. Even though he was East Pakistan/Bengali he pledged his loyalty to Pakistan rather than the newly formed country Bangladesh. In 1971 war he managed to shot down 2 IAF fighter jets. After the war he settled in Pakistan.

    His over all kill is recorded as 9 IAF fighter jets. M.M.Alam retired as Air Marshal & currently is living in Dubai & owns a house in Karachi in Pakistan.

    Thanks to Nationmaster's Encyclopedia

    I want to send URL but system is blocking the supported URL
    Salam
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    Thank you for sharing!

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    M. M. Alam
    Former Pakistan Airforce Pilot & the only ace in the Soth Asian region.


    Saad Hatmi was the second Ace in the South Asian region. Infact tyring to acquire more confirmation ... I have found out that we had 3 aces .. Their Cecil Chaudry too ..

    http://jpgleize.club.fr/aces/ww2jeta.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by israrali View Post
    If you want to compare Hawker Hunter and F-86 Sabre, please follow the link below:

    militaryfactory com

    and if you are interested in M.M. Alam then read below

    M. M. Alam
    Former Pakistan Airforce Pilot & the only ace in the Soth Asian region.

    M.M.Alam or Muhammad Mahmood Alam was from East Pakistan (Now Bangladesh). He joined PAF & was drafted to fly PAF's 2nd mainstay mass attack fighters F-86 Sabres. He was stationed at Sargodah in West Pakistan rather than in his home wing of East Pakistan.

    In 1965 India declared war over Pakistan. During the war the IAF thought the end to the Sargodah airfield will bring end to the continious & successful PAF attacks over IAF airfields. In order to do so IAF sent its fighters Sargodah. M.M.Alam on of the 1st pilots to respond to the warnings of these IAF intruders took to the skies, very little he knew that the battle he is about to fight will leave a mark on military aviation history in the region.

    M.M.Alam came across 5 IAF & shot them down in less than one minuite, a record time by any ACE.

    In 1971 East & West Pakistan went to bloody civil war. Even though he was East Pakistan/Bengali he pledged his loyalty to Pakistan rather than the newly formed country Bangladesh. In 1971 war he managed to shot down 2 IAF fighter jets. After the war he settled in Pakistan.

    His over all kill is recorded as 9 IAF fighter jets. M.M.Alam retired as Air Marshal & currently is living in Dubai & owns a house in Karachi in Pakistan.

    Thanks to Nationmaster's Encyclopedia

    I want to send URL but system is blocking the supported URL
    Salam
    MM Alam did not retire as a Air-Marshal.

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    M.M.Alam or Muhammad Mahmood Alam was from East Pakistan (Now Bangladesh)
    are you ok or sick

    mm ALAM's faimly migrent from bihar to west pakistan.he is not bengali or east pakistani.

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    MM ALAM still rules the skie of soth east asia becoz we have more MM ALAMS now be aware indians

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatman17 View Post
    MM Alam did not retire as a Air-Marshal.
    Thanks for the correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by imran khan View Post
    are you ok or sick

    mm ALAM's faimly migrent from bihar to west pakistan.he is not bengali or east pakistani.
    First you better learn how to speak in this forum.
    Second:
    He was born July 6, 1935 in Calcutta, British India. He is popularly known as "M.M. Alam" and nicknamed little dragon.
    Alam was the first commanding officer of the first squadron of Dassault Mirage III fighters procured by the PAF. However he was not very popular with the top management of the PAF and was shortly removed from command, on the excuse that he was not "literate enough"[4]

    During the Indo-Pakistan War of 1971, all personnel who were of Bengali origins or were born in Bengal were grounded to prevent any defections. Thus, Alam was posted on a staff job and did not fly in combat. M.M. Alam retired in 1982 as an Air Commodore and currently resides in Karachi. One of the roads of Gulberg in Lahore is named after him as M. M. Alam road. His brother M. Shahid Alam is an Economist and a professor at Northeastern University, Boston. His brother M. Sajjad Alam is a particle physicist at SUNY Albany and is responsible for discovering over a dozen particles. More notably, his son, Nadeem played 3 Test Matches for Pakistan in 1989.
    By the way Calcutta is a capital of Bengal.

    Courtesy: wikipedia org

    Regards,
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