Hafiz Saeed vows jihad against India will continue

[Kesang]

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The status of Jammu and Kashmir has been in dispute between India and Pakistan since their independence in 1947. In bringing it to the U.N., India declared that it would abide by the verdict of the people of the territory on whether they would accede to India or to Pakistan. The U.N. set up a commission which negotiated with both parties and obtained their written acceptance of a peace plan consisting of (a) cease*fire (b) demilitarization of the State and (c) a plebiscite under the control of a U.N. -appointed Administrator. The cease*fire took effect accordingly but the demilitarization process, which would mean a synchronized withdrawal of the forces of the two sides, was obstructed when India did not accept any of the various plans submitted by successive U.N. Representatives.


The stalemate would not have persisted if, under cold-war conditions, India had not obtained the support of the Soviet Union.


The United Nations considers Kashmir a "disputed territory." The state is located between India and Pakistan. Since the end of colonial rule and British withdrawal, India and Pakistan have exercised control over parts of the state. In 1948, and again in 1949, the United Nations examined the region's status and passed two resolutions: Kashmir's final status was to be determined by a national plebiscite, a position that was supported by both India and Pakistan as well as by Canada.


Calling Kashmir as "integral part" of its territory, India summarily and illegally annexed that portion of the region then under its control. Pakistan continued to hold its portion "in trust." The status of "disputed territory" for Kashmir is still maintained today by the United Nations
http://www.kashmiri-cc.ca/misc/UNRESOLV.htm

can you give a source which says about kashmir is disputed or not rather than source is disputed or not?

[Kalyugi Mirza]

His entire goal is to free Kashmir, since India has proven.... that despite being a "shining democracy"... they are still refusing to let the Kashmiris have the referendum that was promised to them.

Kashmir issue have been totally manipulated by both sides(govt) now...
but problem is that Pakistan is trying to prove that the bad situation in Kashmir is all due to India( but truth is that Some Pakistani have also have hand in this.)

[asad71]

1. A Muslim population living in a Dar ul Harb must resort to Jihad to attain Dar u; Islam. Allah SWT has clearly ordained that a Muslim does not rest till he has slaughtered the occupants of his house to free it.

2. There is, however, a prerequisite for calling for Jihad. There must be a reasonable chance of success. I believe it is there. Kashmiris would have been freed by now but for the traitors, who, holding authority in Pakistan, rather acted as the agents of Satan. Zardari, Mushi, Benazir and ZA Bhutto sabotaged all freedom movements in J&K from the inside. May they rot in hell.

3. When a Jihad has become necessary, and the call to jihad has been made, it is obligatory for all Muslims to participate and pledge life and property.

4. Kashmiris have sacrificed many lives, shed much flood, and withstood so much of barbaric atrocities. No power on earth can keep them under the boot.

[Kesang]

1. A Muslim population living in a Dar ul Harb must resort to Jihad to attain Dar u; Islam. Allah SWT has clearly ordained that a Muslim does not rest till he has slaughtered the occupants of his house to free it.

2. There is, however, a prerequisite for calling for Jihad. There must be a reasonable chance of success. I believe it is there. Kashmiris would have been freed by now but for the traitors, who, holding authority in Pakistan, rather acted as the agents of Satan. Zardari, Mushi, Benazir and ZA Bhutto sabotaged all freedom movements in J&K from the inside. May they rot in hell.

3. When a Jihad has become necessary, and the call to jihad has been made, it is obligatory for all Muslims to participate and pledge life and property.

4. Kashmiris have sacrificed many lives, shed much flood, and withstood so much of barbaric atrocities. No power on earth can keep them under the boot.

Look like a indian Muslim. Are you? LOL

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I think same is applied for Uighurs of Xinjiang. But all we see Pakistanis concerns more about J-10 and J-17 instead of plights of Muslims Uighurs who are never allowed to fast during Ramadan, restricted from visiting Mecca, killings and ethnic cleansing. Why Hypocrites Jamaat don't talk about Jihad against China.

The topic is abt india not china.... as for fast nobody else can break it or force you not to fast! BS again...

As for ethnic cleansing and other BS... dont spread BS propoganda and come backon topic.

[jbgt90]

The topic is abt india not china.... as for fast nobody else can break it or force you not to fast! BS again...

As for ethnic cleansing and other BS... dont spread BS propoganda and come backon topic.

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fine lets deal with India then . come over and see the Kashmir which is a part of us . then go see azad kashmir and compare the two in terms of education and standard of living . most of Kashmir is at the moment a lot safer than some of your triable areas mate.
if you cant even provide a safe place for your own citizens , why look towards others , with a myopic view that just because they are Muslims they need to be with us. who made you the guardians of the Islamic people?

[Black Widow]

1. A Muslim population living in a Dar ul Harb must resort to Jihad to attain Dar u; Islam. Allah SWT has clearly ordained that a Muslim does not rest till he has slaughtered the occupants of his house to free it.

2. There is, however, a prerequisite for calling for Jihad. There must be a reasonable chance of success. I believe it is there. Kashmiris would have been freed by now but for the traitors, who, holding authority in Pakistan, rather acted as the agents of Satan. Zardari, Mushi, Benazir and ZA Bhutto sabotaged all freedom movements in J&K from the inside. May they rot in hell.

3. When a Jihad has become necessary, and the call to jihad has been made, it is obligatory for all Muslims to participate and pledge life and property.

4. Kashmiris have sacrificed many lives, shed much flood, and withstood so much of barbaric atrocities. No power on earth can keep them under the boot.

If it is Sarcasm then fine, else it is very bad description of Islam by a ill-educated member. I have many BD friends who don't share the same mental behavior what you are showing. Infact I will ask any Indian or Pakistani Muslim brother to rebuck your statement.

You are representing wrong Islam. As like other Indian Muslim (including BD and Pakistani) ancestors your forfather too converted to islam by the influence of Sufism, I don't see your mentality fitting in Sufi culture.

I will take this as your personal view rather than of an Indian Muslim's (Including Paksitani and BD' Muslim).

The topic is abt india not china.... as for fast nobody else can break it or force you not to fast! BS again...
As for ethnic cleansing and other BS... dont spread BS propoganda and come backon topic.

Why double standard??? Are Chinese Muslims are lesser Muslim??? When you talk bout Muslim oppression you must talk globally. When France ban Burka, you cry. When china ban Burka you keep mum! When jew kill Plaestanian Muslim you cry, When general Zia-ul-Haq killed Palestanian Muslim you keep mum!

My brother: India is the only nation where each sect of Islam has full right to practice Islam without any fear or condition.

@Kashmir: Pakistan has nothing to do with Kashmiri Awam, You just want control over water and access route to China...

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fine lets deal with India then . come over and see the Kashmir which is a part of us . then go see azad kashmir and compare the two in terms of education and standard of living . most of Kashmir is at the moment a lot safer than some of your triable areas mate.
if you cant even provide a safe place for your own citizens , why look towards others , with a myopic view that just because they are Muslims they need to be with us. who made you the guardians of the Islamic people?

Your BS deserve a reply.


Sri Nagar Indian OCCUPIED Kashmir:


Picture speaks a thousand words.

[DESERT FIGHTER]

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Turkey doesnt support terrorism in xinjiang either.. nor suicide attacks nor use of force by militants in xinjiang... we have one of the largest population of uighurs outside China... also xinjiang is not a disputed territory like IOK!

[53fd]

And Pakistan's inability to conform to UN resolutions on terrorism continues..

The UN also claimed that Iraq non-compliance with the WMDs they had (there were no WMDs in Iraq), & India has failed to conform to the UN resolutions on Kashmir as well. Just like India has a different stance on Kashmir from the UN resolutions, Pakistan has a different stance on Hafiz Saeed.

[DESERT FIGHTER]

a few lunatics do not constitute the majority of sentiments mate.
would you like me to post a few from Baluchistan?

Few? LOL...Its been 64 years and still they dont call themselves indians.. the case is in UN.. world recognizes them as a disputed territory... as for few go view Kashmir forum and its threads for more info fanboy!

Also is tht the best you can do after getting bogged down? first divert to Xinjiang now baluchistan? sunny im frm baluchistan we have alot of baluch forum members on PDF... who would rip your BS propoganda apart...


Also your a failed troll without any capacity to argue on any topic... better go take a nap or watch some bollywood movie copied frm hollywood and music by some Pakistani singer.

[BLUE_ Pheonix]

Few? LOL...Its been 64 years and still they dont call themselves indians.. the case is in UN.. world recognizes them as a disputed territory... as for few go view Kashmir forum and its threads for more info fanboy!

Also is tht the best you can do after getting bogged down? first divert to Xinjiang now baluchistan? sunny im frm baluchistan we have alot of baluch forum members on PDF... who would rip your BS propoganda apart...


Also your a failed troll without any capacity to argue on any topic... better go take a nap or watch some bollywood movie copied frm hollywood and music by some Pakistani singer.

top trolling award goes to you

[patna_ke_presley]

Few? LOL...Its been 64 years and still they dont call themselves indians.. the case is in UN.. world recognizes them as a disputed territory... as for few go view Kashmir forum and its threads for more info fanboy!

Also is tht the best you can do after getting bogged down? first divert to Xinjiang now baluchistan? sunny im frm baluchistan we have alot of baluch forum members on PDF... who would rip your BS propoganda apart...


Also your a failed troll without any capacity to argue on any topic... better go take a nap or watch some bollywood movie copied frm hollywood and music by some Pakistani singer.

Yes, turkey don't support terrorism. But they do show concerns about Police brutality against Turkic people Uighurs and their ethnic cleansing. Chinese were 4% in Xinjiang in 1949 and now they are officially 50% and other unregistered migrants are not counted. They are already in minority in most of the big cities of Xinjiang including Capital city Urumqi. A uighur can't enter mosque before 18 yrs age. Restriction on fasting during Ramadan but Pakistanis simply don't care for their Muslim brothers.

In the above video, the Baloch girl openly on Pakistani news channel is saying that "You told me to speak less then I will speak less, we don't want autonomy , we want freedom because we are not Pakistanis. And other girl is saying when our women are raped in detention cells, when we receive dead bodies of our father and brothers then nothing happens to Pakistani heart but when I took name of Kashmir your face become red with Anger."

[IND151]

to all Indian members > calm down

Hafiz saeed has right to speak anything......even if its against India

its not like Kashmir is gonna slip through our hands just because Hafiz saeed wants free Kashmir

Indian grip on Kashmir is way firm and GOI is working hard for well being of Kashmiris

but my question is why Pakistanis think that they will get IAK?

last 64 years Pak tried everything to get Kashmir-including proxy war

Pak was successful in harassing India but Indian grip on Kashmir remained firm

but obsession with whole Kashmir has drained Pakistan's resources and PAK is unable to progress with enough speed

on other hand India has survived all problems created by its neighbors and has emerged as emerging global power

there are many sane people in Pakistan who realize status quo will the answer for Kashmir problem

hope Pakistanis soon realize this

[The enlightened]

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The UN also claimed that Iraq non-compliance with the WMDs they had (there were no WMDs in Iraq), & India has failed to conform to the UN resolutions on Kashmir as well. Just like India has a different stance on Kashmir from the UN resolutions, Pakistan has a different stance on Hafiz Saeed.

Few? LOL...Its been 64 years and still they dont call themselves indians.. the case is in UN.. world recognizes them as a disputed territory... as for few go view Kashmir forum and its threads for more info fanboy!

Also is tht the best you can do after getting bogged down? first divert to Xinjiang now baluchistan? sunny im frm baluchistan we have alot of baluch forum members on PDF... who would rip your BS propoganda apart...


Also your a failed troll without any capacity to argue on any topic... better go take a nap or watch some bollywood movie copied frm hollywood and music by some Pakistani singer.

why dont you guys first abandon all parts of kashmir
and then come talk to us about UN