UN report leaves Zardari as the most logical suspect in the Benazir murder case?

[Omar1984]

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Why does everyone care about a woman who stole over 1 billion dollars from Pakistanis? Are people really that narrow minded?

Its not only her, but her husband as well who is now the President of Pakistan and Nawaz Sharif who wants to rule the country again.


Pakistan is never going to improve if we keep electing leaders like them.


Even a PPP minister publically said on national television that corruption is his right. Why do people elect these people? Why oh Why?

[Awesome]

On a related note, I saw Fatima Bhutto being interviewed on TV about her new book Songs of blood and Sword. In it she said, when my Father was assassinated (and later said Asif Ali Zardari was responsible) I asked Benazir, why did the police wash away the crime scene?

Benazir's reply "Fati this is not the movies, there is no conspiracy here, the police has a different way of investigating things".

She then said that now benazir's been killed the same way and her crime scene was washed away, my father's killer was Asif Ali Zardari, you can guess who might be behind Benazirs.

[Vassnti]

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Rehman Malik and Babar Awan forced the driver of the Mercedes to leave immediately.

Does it seem strange to anyone else that they managed to chose just the worst moment to lead the security away. If i saw two people suddenly take off and moments later a bomb went off i would want them to nbe the first people interviewed.

[AstanoshKhan]

A very good and mind boggling read in support of Bhutto.

A Bhutto is a Bhutto

By: Sheikh Imran Nazar Hosein
Imranhosein.org

The Anglo-American-Israeli triple alliance which now rules the world from London, Washington and Jerusalem, and which wages unjust war on Islam and Muslims on behalf of the Euro-Jewish State of Israel, has lost in the assassination of Benazir Bhutto one who proclaimed herself to be their dearest friend and supporter. She walked the extra mile, and talked even more than that, to convince them that she was a sincere friend and ally. She did so because she understood perfectly well that Pakistan, like Saudi Arabia, was different from most other countries in the world in the sense that the ruling Jewish-Christian alliance that had created the world-order would never tolerate the survival of any regime in either country unless it was subservient to them. While this was also true of nearly all of the rest of the world of Islam, it was emphatically so in respect of Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Even so, I believe that they suspected Benazir's sincerity, and that they must be quietly relieved that she is no more. After all, they knew what they did to her father, and she knew it as well; and the possibility existed that there must have burned in a daughter's heart a deeply held desire to avenge the gruesome and humiliating assassination/hanging death of a father she adored.

It would be rash for anyone to dismiss the possibility that the events we now recall were in some way related to her assassination. Indeed a summary dismissal of our arguments will raise more questions, rather than resolve the problems posed by the essay.

When Israel launched her pre-emptive war on the Arabs and Muslims in 1967, that country succeeded in wresting military control over Jerusalem and over Masjid al-Aqsa. This Masjid, which was originally built by Prophet Solomon ('alaihi al-Salaam), was universally recognized as the third of the three holiest Masajid in Islam, - the other two being the Masjid al-Haram (Ka'aba) built by Father Abraham ('alaihi al-Salaam) in Makkah, and the Masjid al-Nabi in Madina which was built by Prophet Muhammad himself (peace and blessings of Allah Most High be upon him). The loss of Jerusalem and of Masjid al-Aqsa affected Saudi Arabia's King Faisal so traumatically that he took courageous steps to terminate that country's client-state relationship with the Jewish-Christian alliance that ruled the world.

Faisal took carefully prepared steps to mend his relationship with Egypt's Gamal Abdel Nasser and to put an end to the proxy war that their two countries had been waging in Yemen. When Nasser died in 1970 Faisal then continued his efforts to forge a Saudi-Egyptian alliance with Nasser's successor, Anwar Sadat. Those efforts bore fruit, and by October 1973 Egypt felt herself ready to avenge the humiliating defeat at the hands of Israel in 1967. Simultaneous with the launch of war on Israel in October 1973 - an attack that caught Israel completely by surprise and could have resulted in an Israeli defeat had it not been for massive American military intervention in the war - Faisal unveiled his master plan. He imposed an Arab oil boycott on the US. The US dollar, which had been floating at US$40 per ounce of gold, suddenly sank by 400% to US$160 per ounce of gold, and American motorists were queuing in lines a mile long to buy gas for their motor cars.

The political genius of Pakistan's Prime Minister, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto recognized the unique opportunity that had emerged with the dramatic successes of the war and the oil boycott and grasped that opportunity to forge a Pakistani-Saudi anti-systemic alliance. Bhutto's political acumen, when combined with the moral and spiritual authority of Faisal's sincere faith, would now function as the foundation for launching an effort to restore political and economic independence to the world of Islam. Within an amazingly short period of less than four months, Bhutto succeeded in hosting the Lahore Islamic Summit Conference that brought together the largest and most representative gathering of Muslim leaders since the collapse of the Islamic Caliphate in 1924.

The US administration vigorously opposed that Islamic Summit. Henry Kissinger warned Bhutto of dire consequences of hosting such a summit. Prime Minister Kosygin of the USSR did the same. The Shah of Iran was used to try to obstruct the convening of the Summit. However, nothing could stand in Bhutto's way. He courageously defied the Anglo-American-Israeli alliance and the Summit was successfully held in Lahore in February 1974. Bhutto set modest and realistic political and economic goals that he sought to achieve in the Summit, and he was successful in achieving those goals.

Bhutto the actor also brought drama to the Summit when he reconciled with Bangladesh's Mujibur Rahman and cleverly used the platform of the Summit to extend political recognition to a Bangladesh that had emerged from a truncated Pakistan.

Two months after the Summit, in April 1974, India launched her first nuclear explosion and entered into the nuclear club. It is quite likely that the timing of the Indian nuclear explosion represented a carefully calculated Indian political and military warning against the emergence of an Islamic bloc that would be independent of the Anglo-American-Israeli embrace. India was resolutely opposed to the emergence of an Islamic bloc, indeed so opposed that the Indians had courted public humiliation in 1970 when the Indian delegation was thrown out of the Rabat Islamic Summit Conference.
Bhutto's response to the Indian nuclear explosion confirmed beyond any doubt that he was committed to an independent Pakistan that would be free from American and Indian hegemony. He emotionally and publicly launched Pakistan on a do-or-die national effort to achieve a Pakistani nuclear response (to India's entry into the nuclear club) and announced that the effort must be pursued "even if it were to take a thousand years and even if we have to eat grass". However, money did not really constitute a problem since, so long as the Saudi-Pakistani alliance remained intact, it would always be possible for Saudi Arabia to fund that Pakistani effort. In fact, it took just a few years for Bhutto's dream to be realized and for Pakistan to dramatically succeed in entering the nuclear club.

This essay is primarily concerned, however, with the consequences that emerged for Faisal and Bhutto for having dared to defy the Jewish-Christian alliance.

In August 1975, one year after the Lahore Summit and less than two years after the oil boycott on the US, Faisal was assassinated. Those who planned the assassination demonstrated their evil genius (even before 9/11) when they succeeded in drugging, brainwashing and hypnotizing one of Faisal's nephews, then a student at an American university, to return to Saudi Arabia and to shoot his uncle to death. The Saudi royal family understood perfectly who was responsible for the assassination, why it had occurred, and what was the message with which it came, and decided to abandon Faisal's independent foreign policy and to return to the American embrace as a client state.

The score then read "one has gone - one more must go". Bhutto's turn was next.

Faisal's death was quick. It took just a moment and it was over. Not so Bhutto, - they made a truly horrible example of him and he suffered worse than a dog before he was assassinated/hanged to death. In 1976, Bhutto's Pakistan People's Party completed its five-year term of office and general elections were due. The Anglo-American-Israeli alliance intervened so dramatically in those elections that Pakistanis resident in USA were sent back home with briefcases packed with millions of dollars. One such money-mule confessed to such to this writer himself. Pakistani intelligence discovered evidence of massive intervention and corruption of the electoral process. Bhutto counter-attacked by rigging the election. His enemies then responded by financing such violent street demonstrations and riots that it was Iran in 1952 all over again. The CIA had brought down Dr Mossadiq's nationalist Iranian government in 1952 while using the same strategy. The fact that Bhutto had made many enemies made the task easier for them this time around.

Street demonstrations and riots eventually created political conditions that could be used to justify a pre-planned military coup-d'etat. Predictably, the military coup d'etat installed a pro-American military dictator. Bhutto was arrested and spent more than a year in jail (in humiliating conditions that he described to be worse than that of a dog) before he was assassinated/hanged to death as an accomplice to murder.
The message to the world was now clear: Both were gone - and so too would any other Pakistani or Saudi Muslim leader who chose to follow them! Indeed the military dictator who had deposed Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto himself had a change of heart and subsequently attempted to take Pakistan out of the Jewish-Christian embrace. But Ziaul Haq paid the price that Panama's Omar Torrejo and many others beside had paid. His airplane fell out of the sky and he too, died in yet another political assassination planned and executed by the greatest terrorists mankind will ever know. Consider the following:

Former US ambassador says Mossad may have knocked off Pakistani President in '88 over nukes

A curious report in the Nation by Barbara Crossette who tantalizingly speaks of the role of "an Israeli lobby" (gosh, dear, what's that!?) in the destruction of former ambassador Chas Freeman's career, and says the lesson is underlined by a forthcoming memoir, Danger Zones, by 82-year old former ambassador to India, and child of Holocaust survivors, John Gunther Dean:

It was in the midst of this Soviet endgame in Afghanistan that Dean fell afoul of the State Department for the last time. After the death of [Pakistani President] General Zia in August 1988, in a plane crash that also killed the American ambassador in Pakistan, Arnold Raphel, Dean was told in New Delhi by high-ranking officials that Mossad was a possible instigator of the accident, in which the plane's pilot and co-pilot were apparently disabled or otherwise lost control. There was also some suspicion that elements of India's Research and Analysis Wing, its equivalent of the CIA, may have played a part. India and Israel were alarmed by Pakistan's work on a nuclear weapon--the "Islamic bomb." Dean was so concerned about these reports, and the attempt by the State Department to block a full FBI investigation of the crash in Pakistan, that he decided to return to Washington for direct consultations. Instead of the meetings he was promised, he was told his service in India was over. He was sent into virtual house arrest in Switzerland at a home belonging to the family of his French wife, Martine Duphenieux. Six weeks later, he was allowed to return to New Delhi to pack his belongings and return to Washington, where he resigned.

Benazir did her very best during her two brief terms as Prime Minister of Pakistan to convince them that she was not her father's daughter, but in the end, it appears to me, they decided that a Bhutto was a Bhutto, and they could not chance another Bhutto! And so on both occasions that she became Prime Minister, she was deposed. However, on this post 9/11 occasion when Israel is so close to achieving a messianic destiny of ruling the world, and Benazir's electoral victory was only two weeks away, they had to put her away.

[Lilo]

Karzai offered Benazir security hours before her murder

Friday, April 16, 2010
By By Rauf Klasra
ISLAMABAD: Hours before her assassination, Afghan President Hamid Karzai had offered Benazir Bhutto that Afghan intelligence agency could provide her security unofficially within Pakistan, as he had information she might be killed soon.

Sources said Karzai wanted Benazir Bhutto to use the expertise of the Afghan intelligence and guards who, despite several attacks on him by the Taliban, had saved his life. This secret has been shared with The News hours before the release of the UN inquiry report about the assassination of Benazir Bhutto.

The sources said President Zardari had given Karzai’s name to the UN Commission so that it could ask him as to how he knew about Benazir’s assassination to the extent that he had even told his intelligence chief to provide security cover to Benazir Bhutto.

Sources privy to the discussions revealed about a meeting in Islamabad on Dec 27, 2007, taking place on an urgent request of Hamid Karzai, as he wanted to convey to Benazir that she was heading for a possible deadly attack and he, as the president of Afghanistan, wanted his intelligence chief to make arrangements to provide her a security cover.

The sources said the Afghan intelligence chief was accompanying Hamid Karzai when Benazir was warned about looming threats to her life. Sources said Benazir was, however, not shaken by the warning, as she told him she had already been warned by some other reliable sources about threats to her life.

Sources said much to the surprise of the participants of the meeting, Karzai was very disturbed and he, again and again, advised Benazir Bhutto to be very careful. He said his intelligence agency had intercepted some calls and got information from their sources that Benazir Bhutto was facing serious threats to her life.

The sources said Karzai was so disturbed by poor security arrangements for Benazir in Pakistan that without seeking her permission, he asked his intelligence chief to make a plan to protect her within Pakistan. Sources said this offer to provide security cover by a foreign head of state to Benazir was something very big and an unusual offer.

Sources said it was not known how the Afghan intelligence chief could have provided security cover and what might have been the reaction of the Pakistani intelligence agencies to the presence of Afghan intelligence personnel protecting Benazir Bhutto inside Pakistan. Sources said actually these arrangements were to be put in place without the knowledge of the then military government of General Musharraf.

Goes on to show that Karzai who is demonized in Pak at the drop of a hat actually knew what was ultimately good for Pak , his country and the AF-P A K region as a whole -- i.e need for civilian power (as symbolized by BB) to prevail over military power (as symbolised by the "establishment" who watched her burn).

[TaimiKhan]

Well if Karzai had so much concrete info, then it atleast clears this thing that the conspiracy was hatched in Afghanistan or the perpetrators were in Afghanistan.

Hope, Karzai also does reveals, that from whom this intelligence was coming, meaning which was the group which was active & conspiring. If taliban, then which one.

And two important questions, why did Malik & Babar Awan sped away ?? And both of them are now at top positions, one is the interior Czar, and the other Law minister, and given the highest civilian award for doing nothing by none other then Zardari himself. And Zardari, who was nothing till BB's death, overnight became the most powerful person in Pakistan. Coincidence ?? Don't think so.

And having survived one assassination attempt on her return from abroad, why did BB knowing the dangers, exposed herself out of the vehicle and let herself become an easy prey. If she hadn't exposed herself, things might have been different, but that is fate.

She got the same treatment which she gave to Zia, her party came to power and Zia's plane crash mystery never solved nor properly investigated.

She died, her own party came to power, she was buried without a postmortem (thanks to Zardari) denying people to know the real cause of her death, more then 2 years of her party, not a single FIR registered, with all the intelligence setup under Zardari & Malik, they did not order a single investigation to find out the truth.

Very thoughtful questions, which are full of conspiracy suggesting within country role and some from outside.

I personally believe, Musharaf had nothing to do with it, he was the one who made a deal with her, he was the one who had warned her even when she was abroad, and in the end he himself was the loser.

But those who gained the most, they definitely are the ones who have a hand in this fiasco, and God willing they will come to their end too one day.

[MZUBAIR]

I think PPP was themselves were responsible for that, especially BB security chief. Number of those who should be considered her murderer are on very high posts IN Pakistan Cabnit now.










Dont forget this man, he was guiding murders....Chief Security officer of BB.
One of imp man of Mr Zardari


And now the main player

[courageneverdies]

What was to be expected from this commission when they started investigation nearly year after the incident happened. With the so-called evidence provided to them, this can only be the outcome of such a report.

Now will PPP hold Musharaf responsible for BB's assasination? Will he be trailed?

Secondly, BB had her own security plan and her own security incharge; Rehman Malik, will he be questioned also????

No, this report will rest in peace with reports on Assassination of Liaqat Ali Khan etc...

Millions of dollars of Pakistani nation ruined.

KIT Over

[Lilo]

Well if Karzai had so much concrete info, then it atleast clears this thing that the conspiracy was hatched in Afghanistan or the perpetrators were in Afghanistan.

That is a completely baseless assumption. Its like accusing some one who tried to stop some one from killing you by warning you, that he is complicit in the plan just because he knew it. IMO Karzai had his heart in the right place and tried to protect BB to the best of his ability by trying to convince her of the imminent danger from the powers that be in Pak. Afghanistan is the neighbor to Pak and its intelligence agencies are bound to be focussed on intelligence gathering inside Pak with some success. That is karzai's probable source.

Hope, Karzai also does reveals, that from whom this intelligence was coming, meaning which was the group which was active & conspiring. If taliban, then which one.

Karzai did actually cooperate with the UN investigating body as acknowledged in their report unlike the "security establishment" of Pak which was openly castigated by Heraldo Munoz in his press conference at the eve of the report presentation.

And two important questions, why did Malik & Babar Awan sped away ??

Simple answer - they are cowards.

And both of them are now at top positions, one is the interior Czar, and the other Law minister, and given the highest civilian award for doing nothing by none other then Zardari himself.

Again this is due to zardari's need for political expediency. Zardari already has quite a few opponents in pak - no need for him to make new ones in his own party.

And Zardari, who was nothing till BB's death, overnight became the most powerful person in Pakistan. Coincidence ?? Don't think so.

But that's what you want to believe no ?

And having survived one assassination attempt on her return from abroad, why did BB knowing the dangers, exposed herself out of the vehicle and let herself become an easy prey. If she hadn't exposed herself, things might have been different, but that is fate.

She is brave and thats a fact.

She got the same treatment which she gave to Zia, her party came to power and Zia's plane crash mystery never solved nor properly investigated.

The "security establishment" of pak has been the paramount from the post ZAB times. It is even now . Do you think they would have allowed BB to meddle in their internal politics (which might be the reason Zia was dispatched in the first place) with an investigation ?
She was not even allowed access to the strategic aspects of Pak security (like nukes etc) in 1990 s.

she was buried without a postmortem (thanks to Zardari) denying people to know the real cause of her death, more then 2 years of her party, not a single FIR registered,

The punjab police (governed by PML-N and dominated by the "security establishment") hosed down the site within hours. Zardari had no power to do anything about it. Isnt it the reason he went to UN in the first place ? - because he is powerless against the "security establishement" of Pak which has as declared by Heraldo Munoz impeded UN investigation at every step.

with all the intelligence setup under Zardari & Malik, they did not order a single investigation to find out the truth.

Pak Intelligence setup under zardari ??

But those who gained the most, they definitely are the ones who have a hand in this fiasco, and God willing they will come to their end too one day.

Those who gained the most are the cabal represented by the "Security establishment" of Pakistan.

[Luftwaffe]

Omar1984..that ppp minister who said corruption is their right was held in Islamabad in a midnight raid caught in a house with chinese prostitutes along with other men..the footage is online.

[courageneverdies]

Omar1984..that ppp minister who said corruption is their right was held in Islamabad in a midnight raid caught in a house with chinese prostitutes along with other men..the footage is online.

Isn't he the state Minister for Defence Production???

KIT Over

[TaimiKhan]

That is a completely baseless assumption. Its like accusing some one who tried to stop some one from killing you by warning you, that he is complicit in the plan just because he knew it. IMO Karzai had his heart in the right place and tried to protect BB to the best of his ability by trying to convince her of the imminent danger from the powers that be in Pak. Afghanistan is the neighbor to Pak and its intelligence agencies are bound to be focussed on intelligence gathering inside Pak with some success. That is karzai's probable source.

Read carefully, i did not said he was involved, i said if he by sitting in Afghanistan is having intelligence reports, it means the perpetrators had connections inside Afghanistan too, as well as Pakistan. If his intelligence guys are even in Pakistan, they are involved with the taliban or AQ groups, thus he should have told also that from which group the intel was coming, who were planning the thing, was it AQ, Taliban or some other group. Main persons involved.

Karzai did actually cooperate with the UN investigating body as acknowledged in their report unlike the "security establishment" of Pak which was openly castigated by Heraldo Munoz in his press conference at the eve of the report presentation.

Yes he did, but do remember, Karzai's name came up in the end, initially he was not interviewed, nor did he came up with the facts.

Simple answer - they are cowards.

This is not cowardliness, this is something else.

Again this is due to zardari's need for political expediency. Zardari already has quite a few opponents in pak - no need for him to make new ones in his own party.

PPP is not his party, he was in the party due to his wife, even though she kept him miles away from the party affairs, that is why when he came into power, he threw out all the old BB and PPP loyalists and promoted people whom we even did not knew and got them into the govt.

But that's what you want to believe no ?

well you give me something else to believe, as i don't see anything else other then that. And its not me, whole Pakistan knows this. Do let us know, how a person with no say in PPPs affairs, who was kept far away from politics of Pakistan, overnight became its most powerful person.

She is brave and thats a fact.

Bravery doesn't means you stand right in the middle of a highway full of high speeding cars and then think you will be safe, that is called stupidity. She had done her jalsaa, she had waved to thousands of people in the gathering, there was no further need to do to a few dozen who had already seen her, especially knowing she is unprotected in the open.

The "security establishment" of pak has been the paramount from the post ZAB times. It is even now . Do you think they would have allowed BB to meddle in their internal politics (which might be the reason Zia was dispatched in the first place) with an investigation ?
She was not even allowed access to the strategic aspects of Pak security (like nukes etc) in 1990 s.

Well then they shouldn't complain about who killed her and who did not, if they can't even do one small investigation. And these oligarchs of ours are themselves a security threat for us, as they care more for money compared to country. If she wasn't let in to the strategic aspects, that was due to some reason.

The punjab police (governed by PML-N and dominated by the "security establishment") hosed down the site within hours. Zardari had no power to do anything about it. Isnt it the reason he went to UN in the first place ? - because he is powerless against the "security establishement" of Pak which has as declared by Heraldo Munoz impeded UN investigation at every step.

Punjab has a coalition govt, with PPP having good number of seats. And he went to UN after pressure was put onto him, he was not in favor of going to UN, and he is such hopeless that he can't even register an FIR ?? That is ridiculous. Read the report, if security establishment was so much in power, then the ISI chief would not have went to her on 27th Dec and told her once again that there was threat and she should keep her profile low. Read the report, you will see, how many times this same security establishment warned her to have a low profile and other stuff. Even the Saudi Govt, UAE govt and Afghan Karzai warned her, i believe that is sufficient to say, that the local security was not involved, otherwise these 3 govts would not have been warning her.

Pak Intelligence setup under zardari ??

The IB, FIA and other civilian stuff is under the govt. And as for your , can;t help you, but read the report of the UN.

Those who gained the most are the cabal represented by the "Security establishment" of Pakistan.

That is for you to believe in, as for ground realities the reality is different.

[xenia]

this is the report for which pakistani tax-payers spent millions of dollars..
the rport says that ppp govt. should go for an investigation..now, why the hell we spent this money??they arent even sure thet she got a bullet or was it because of the handle of her car(no autopsy done, WHY)..initially when musharraf said that it was because of the handle, toyota company threatened to sue him for the statement..condoliza rice dint want to give the interview..zardari not involved as no evidence against him..is this really an INVESTIGATION report??applause for those who did this excellent job
itne paisay muj daite to me iss se achi report likh deti!!

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

i just dont get it , why the Fk they just portray one sided view..! Not knowing who the real players were . Zardari and company sold her in the lust of power ..! why the hel Zardari's cheif body guard was assasinated rit after ppp came to power .

[Lilo]

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Read carefully, i did not said he was involved,

Your clarification is fair enough.

i said if he by sitting in Afghanistan is having intelligence reports, it means the perpetrators had connections inside Afghanistan too

Base less - might be an operation completely planned and funded inside Pak like the assassination attempt on Musharraf.

If his intelligence guys are even in Pakistan, they are involved with the taliban or AQ groups, thus he should have told also that from which group the intel was coming, who were planning the thing, was it AQ, Taliban or some other group. Main persons involved.

The plethora of suicide cells /assasins for money/terror groups and their splinter cells are hard to be kept track off even by the americans.
So it makes sense that the agencies of afghanistan with their limited resources had access to a few within the "security establishment" who probably relayed that a "supari" has been put out by the higher ups with the name of BB on it . Its not the terror groups that are important here its who used them as the catpaw to dispatch BB.

"There was little to no focus placed on investigating those further up the hierarchy in the planning, the financing and the execution of the assassination," Chile's UN ambassador, Heraldo Munoz, who chaired the commission, said at a news conference".

Yes he did, but do remember, Karzai's name came up in the end, initially he was not interviewed, nor did he came up with the facts.

How does it matter when or where karzai's name came in the report ? and what are the "facts" ?

This is not cowardliness, this is something else.

PPP is not his party, he was in the party due to his wife, even though she kept him miles away from the party affairs, that is why when he came into power, he threw out all the old BB and PPP loyalists and promoted people whom we even did not knew and got them into the govt.

well you give me something else to believe, as i don't see anything else other then that. And its not me, whole Pakistan knows this. Do let us know, how a person with no say in PPPs affairs, who was kept far away from politics of Pakistan, overnight became its most powerful person.

Facts are important not beliefs.This is what Heraldo munez said regarding the conspiracy theories on zardari.Hope this answer is sufficient irrespective of what you and i think or the pakistani on the street was made to think.

Conspiracy theories involving Mr. Zardari "simply had no basis, no evidence to be treated as credible hypotheses," said Heraldo Muñoz ...

Contrastingly in case of the security establishment he said this.

"Ms. Bhutto faced serious threats in Pakistan from a number of sources; these included Al-Qaida, the Taliban and local ****** groups, and potentially from elements in the Pakistani Establishment," Munoz said. "Notwithstanding these threats,...

Bravery doesn't means you stand right in the middle of a highway full of high speeding cars and then think you will be safe, that is called stupidity. She had done her jalsaa, she had waved to thousands of people in the gathering, there was no further need to do to a few dozen who had already seen her, especially knowing she is unprotected in the open.

If BB didnt take out any rallies after she returned to pak she PPP wouldnt have a chance of winning the upcoming election.
Unless she knew that the bomber/assasin was going to hit her in that rally ,which she didnt she is well justified in taking her rally out.
In a country like pakistan where few leaders had the mass base rivaling that of BB among the poor as opposed to the middleclass and the elite mass base of PML-N direct contact is the only way of reaching her supporters what ever might be the risks.

Well then they shouldn't complain about who killed her and who did not, if they can't even do one small investigation. And these oligarchs of ours are themselves a security threat for us, as they care more for money compared to country. If she wasn't let in to the strategic aspects, that was due to some reason.

Why shouldnt they complain ? who controlled the security establishment of pak in 1990 as well as in 2007 ? was it ever under the control of PPP ?

Punjab has a coalition govt, with PPP having good number of seats. And he went to UN after pressure was put onto him, he was not in favor of going to UN, and he is such hopeless that he can't even register an FIR ?? That is ridiculous. Read the report, if security establishment was so much in power, then the ISI chief would not have went to her on 27th Dec and told her once again that there was threat and she should keep her profile low. Read the report, you will see, how many times this same security establishment warned her to have a low profile and other stuff. Even the Saudi Govt, UAE govt and Afghan Karzai warned her, i believe that is sufficient to say, that the local security was not involved, otherwise these 3 govts would not have been warning her.

I read the report and all the time the "security establishment" warned her not to take out rallies with her supporters but never did it provide enough security to her in the first place. Why ? because as i said earlier PPP is a party with mass base and musharaaf knew that PML-Q etc will have a better chance vis-a-vis PPP if BB is confined in her house (i.e cut off from reaching her base) using security threats etc and this should have been obvious to BB too. so she went ahead anyway.

The IB, FIA and other civilian stuff is under the govt. And as for your , can;t help you, but read the report of the UN.

Do you seriously believe that intelligence agencies are under zardari ?? well let me quote our chilean diplomat again.

"This pervasive involvement of intelligence agencies in diverse spheres, which is an open secret, has undermined the rule of law, distorted civilian-military relations and weakened some political and law enforcement institutions," it states....

That is for you to believe in, as for ground realities the reality is different.

You meant to say the ground beliefs ?