PAF B-52 Bomber, F14/F15/F18 Super Hornet (Any Chance)

[desiman]

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MZUBAIR - you said F18 only offered to its best allies.

USA are offering F18 with 50% tot TO india. Does this make india close ally.

ie much closer than Pakistan ???/

India is not an Ally but more of a partner. Pakistan's proximity to the US is based on its commitment to the WOT but India closeness is based on its economy and similar democratic ideals. India is also of strategic importance to keep China in check for the US.

[ptldM3]

Already mentioned but the F-14's production line is closed, so the idea itself is silly.

[TOPGUN]

India is not an Ally but more of a partner. Pakistan's proximity to the US is based on its commitment to the WOT but India closeness is based on its economy and similar democratic ideals. India is also of strategic importance to keep China in check for the US.

Keep China in check plzz refer to these words and change them China is not in check by anyone... infact last time the world knew China is checking everyone these days. in all asspects.

[Skywalker]

Kindly im not much into PAF but much into US Aircraft carrier Super hornet etc so kindly telme if anyone knowz or thing better about PAF. Any chance Pakistan will get B-52 atlesat 2-3 B52 bomber and F14 Tomcat or F15 or F18 super hornet ?

US govt. has recently outsourced the supply and PAF can actually order them through ebay or directly from Toyr r us.

[Super Falcon]

hahaha even free paf wont take them because F 14 is retired and F 18 no one rated it as a air to air fighting machine B 52 nothing more just a sitting duck for a war in south east asia and yes F 15 can be possibility but not for now atleast

[keebler]

You all might like this. A reporter video recorded himself while he rides in the back seat of a US Navy Blue Angels' FA-18.

It's a good laugh.

http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/ajc/swf/bl...blueangels.swf

Enjoy.

[Super Falcon]

well F 18 is a junl for me i hate this jet

[MZUBAIR]

MZUBAIR - you said F18 only offered to its best allies.

USA are offering F18 with 50% tot TO india. Does this make india close ally.

ie much closer than Pakistan ???/

US needs India............Its some thing else....
US already spending 800+ Billion on its defence.......Now 10+ Billion MRCA deal is not imp...............
One thing more US dont want war of India / Pakistan thats y they are saying that India Pakistan are not enemies from last few years............not only that US also wants to resolve bone of conflict (Kashmir) between both countries.
Now if US wants peace in the region then Y US making strong India

One more point........US allowed F-16's to PAF and many other latest weapons, when those were very new..... these days were of USSR , Afgan war. At that time US policies for Pakistan were same as in these days with India.

Enough for wise man

[MZUBAIR]

India is not an Ally but more of a partner. Pakistan's proximity to the US is based on its commitment to the WOT but India closeness is based on its economy and similar democratic ideals.

They have no intrest in ur economy, I suggest u to study their war deplomacies.......U will find more then 100's of wars in which US directly or indireclty involved in last 2 centuries!!!!
And u will find some similar strategies which US playing these days.......But it clearly loooks that wise India is like jelly fish for US

India is also of strategic importance to keep China in check for the US.

Yes, thats the main reason and main intrest of US.

Any ways we are going off the topic

[Super Falcon]

well and india will also suffer from usa when the usa get what it is looking from india

[ptldM3]

well F 18 is a junl for me i hate this jet

The F-18 is just as capable in A2A as any other legacy fighter.

[hasnain0099]

I agree as i have said before we need a bomber!!!!!

We have seen US using these "bomb warehouses" where they have already cleared most of the air threats and air defence.But looking in PAF prospective this is not the case as PAF will basically attempt to freeze the IAF FoBs unlike USAF which swept the enemyAF out entirely to ensure blue skies for their bombers.While a bomber like B-2 derives some advantage from its stealth B-52 does not.And now given the development of SAM systems, B-52 will be an easy prey to any good SAM system or fighter AC unlike a multirole fighter which can deploy a decent (yet much lesser) bombs load but can do the job quickly and can defend it self.So this might be the reason IMHO why PAF never thought about dedicated bombers.

[TOPGUN]

We have seen US using these "bomb warehouses" where they have already cleared most of the air threats and air defence.But looking in PAF prospective this is not the case as PAF will basically attempt to freeze the IAF FoBs unlike USAF which swept the enemyAF out entirely to ensure blue skies for their bombers.While a bomber like B-2 derives some advantage from its stealth B-52 does not.And now given the development of SAM systems, B-52 will be an easy prey to any good SAM system or fighter AC unlike a multirole fighter which can deploy a decent (yet much lesser) bombs load but can do the job quickly and can defend it self.So this might be the reason IMHO why PAF never thought about dedicated bombers.

Dude i can't understand what you wrote nor what you mean lolz ...

[hasnain0099]

Dude i can't understand what you wrote nor what you mean lolz ...

I meant that it is better for PAF to have more multiroles than dedicated bombers as PAF will neither be able to achieve complete air superiority nor complete Indian SAM elimination for the safety of their bombers from IAF and Indian SAMs

[☪☪☪☪]

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Unless we can buy B2 or provide huge ******* escort to bomber it will be most likely shot down.Bomber is too big of a target to protect.Bomber would be more a liability then asset.