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    ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with China for the export of JF-17 aircraft, a joint Pak-China venture, Senate’s Standing Committee on Defence Production was informed on Wednesday.
    The committee’s in-camera meeting, chaired by Mushahid Hussain Syed, reviewed the functions and performance of the Ministry of Defence Production and its sub-departments. Later, the committee’s chairman had a media talk.
    In its briefing to senators, Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT) disowned the defective APC used in Lyari operation. Later, Senator Faisal Abidi explained to media persons that armour-piercing bullets were fired on that APC, killing a number of police officers in Karachi. These steel bullets were under the use of Nato forces engaged in war against terrorism in Afghanistan. He said there was a possibility that outlaws got hands on these steel bullets while plundering the Nato containers. The exterior of the controversial or flawed APC cannot withstand these steel bullets, he said.
    The committee has passed two separate resolutions which will be presented in Senate.
    Mover of the first resolution, Senator Faratullah Babar informed the media that the committee would pursue the government to give financial and administrative autonomy to Pakistan Ordnance Factories (POF) and Heavy Industries Taxila and other defence institutions which comes under the Ministry of Defence Productions in accordance with their ordinances.
    The rules would be amended to add a private member in their boards. To improve the efficiency of defence production, it was necessary that they would be run on public-private partnership basis. “If we want to run these defence institutions on commercial basis, we have to give them financial autonomy,” Senator Babar said.
    The committee observed that the public and private shipping companies had not been contacting Karachi Shipyard and Engineering Works for buying any ship. Under the law, it is binding for every shipping company to get ‘First Right of Refusal’ from KSEW which is not being implemented in letter and spirit.
    The committee was informed that HIT export stood $31.7 million during last fiscal year. Domestic supply reached worth Rs5.8 billion. The profit of HIT stood at Rs585 million. However, HIT is anticipating a reduction in profit and estimating it will be around Rs340 million during current fiscal year.
    Reacting to recent statement by US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta, published in international media, regarding launching operation in North Waziristan Agency, Chairman Committee said that government will not take dictation from anyone on internal matters.

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    Default Re: MoU signed with China for JF-17 export, Senate body told

    good news for pakistan

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    Default Re: MoU signed with China for JF-17 export, Senate body told

    its good and encouraging news hopes are high.

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    Default Re: MoU signed with China for JF-17 export, Senate body told

    Do the export versions carry the same config as the once that fly with Pakistani colours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joekrish View Post
    Do the export versions carry the same config as the once that fly with Pakistani colours?
    no it will be the FC-1.
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    Default Re: MoU signed with China for JF-17 export, Senate body told

    These planes should be marketed in Latin and South America. Cuba, Argentina, and Venezuela come to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingMamba93 View Post
    These planes should be marketed in Latin and South America. Cuba, Argentina, and Venezuela come to mind.
    whomever is interested will get a sales pitch, this i can guarantee you.

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    Default Re: MoU signed with China for JF-17 export, Senate body told

    Quote Originally Posted by fatman17 View Post
    whomever is interested will get a sales pitch, this i can guarantee you.
    What countries do you think will be most interested?

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    Default Re: MoU signed with China for JF-17 export, Senate body told

    Steel bullets can not pierce armor of an APC. The armor-peircing bullets (APB's) the honorable minister is referring to are made using powder metallurgy and are mostly Tungsten Carbide (W2C). When fired into an armor they generate immense heat (due to two different elements coming together - instantaneous contact) and the armor around it literally explodes. Another alternative to these bullets is to use depleted uranium, but that for obvious reasons you can not use in small arms.


    BTW, regarding the MoU, any lead on potential buyers for JF-17? They must've signed the contract, knowing someone was definitely out there with some sort of firm order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingMamba93 View Post
    These planes should be marketed in Latin and South America. Cuba, Argentina, and Venezuela come to mind.
    Argentina won't be the customer not in the near future they have relations with israel. You don't want FC-1 being evaluated Tested like migs & sukhois ended up in israel. israel has upgraded majority of their Aircrafts.

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    Default Re: MoU signed with China for JF-17 export, Senate body told

    There was this rumor that Egypt was looking at the JF-17 as an alternative to an American offer of outdated Block 30s.This was before the revolution.Maybe now, the deal might occur?

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    Default Re: MoU signed with China for JF-17 export, Senate body told

    We should just sell them secretly, at a price and qty to cover the development cost, and if possible to build ourselves one for free at the price of each sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha View Post
    We should just sell them secretly, at a price and qty to cover the development cost, and if possible to build ourselves one for free at the price of each sale.
    This may not be the best option as it might allow on of the airframes to fall into the wrong hands.If this happens,we won't be able to reclaim it as it would have been sold secretly from the start.

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    Default Re: MoU signed with China for JF-17 export, Senate body told

    I see the news related to this out of China, end or June: ¡°èÉÁú¡±/JF-17¶þÅú50¼Ü·É»úµÄÄÚóºÏͬǩ¶©_Èý¾üÂÛ̳_¾üÊÂÂÛ̳_ÐÂÀ ËÍø

    On June 30, the AVIC into fly, with CATIC company in Chengdu, Chengdu signed "OWL" Dragon/JF-17 II, batches of 50 aircraft of domestic contracts. AVIC CAC General Manager Wang Guangya, Director Ji Xiaoguang and CATIC of the Chengdu Ma Zhiping, General Manager of the company signed the contract on behalf of three parties, and expressed the hope that the third party in "Dragon OWL" aircraft on the market development of foreign trade, based on the principle of good faith, win-win, increase strength, solidarity and cooperation, create brilliant foreign trade.
    Also news reports on the attack at Kamra also had this spnipet Taliban claim attack on Minhas base; nine militants killed | DAWN.COM

    All Chinese and others foreign engineers and technicians involved in co-production of Chinese and Pakistan JF-17 Thunder aircraft project were shifted to a high profile secure location, sources told Dawn.com, adding that the engineers were not present near the attack area.
    Could they already be training technical people from customers? … … Or are they Russians, Brazilians, etc helping to integrate weapons and engines?

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    If extortionists/terrorists have armor piercing bullets, its a big worry for national security agencies.


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