The avionics Of Mirage ROSE Upgrade!!!

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The project "ROSE" (Retrofit of Strike Element") was set up to reclaim as many airplanes as possible and to upgrade them with latest avionics. Originally it was thought that only 20 - 25 airframes could be made operational but eventually, more than 40 airframes were refurbuished and put back in service.

The avionics upgrade included fitting of HUD, HOTAS controls, RWR's chaff / flare and most important of all the retrofit of FIAR Griffo Radar. This radar is the Italian copy of APG-68 and has full look down shoot down capability. At present No 7 Squadron is inducting a BVR weapon of South African origin.

[syedmobeenali]

The project "ROSE" (Retrofit of Strike Element") was set up to reclaim as many airplanes as possible and to upgrade them with latest avionics. Originally it was thought that only 20 - 25 airframes could be made operational but eventually, more than 40 airframes were refurbuished and put back in service.

The avionics upgrade included fitting of HUD, HOTAS controls, RWR's chaff / flare and most important of all the retrofit of FIAR Griffo Radar. This radar is the Italian copy of APG-68 and has full look down shoot down capability. At present No 7 Squadron is inducting a BVR weapon of South African origin.

can you kindly tell us what is the range of griffo radar and which bvr missile is inducted?

[melb4aust]

At present No 7 Squadron is inducting a BVR weapon of South African origin.

BVR weapon, Would you plz eleborate more on, what kind of BVR weapon you are talking about? thanks

[fatman17]

can you kindly tell us what is the range of griffo radar and which bvr missile is inducted?

radar range ~50 KM or miles (?) and missile is probably A-Darter (rumoured) or copy (with chinese help)

[syedmobeenali]

radar range ~50 KM or miles (?) and missile is probably A-Darter (rumoured) or copy (with chinese help)

I think A-Darter is a wvr missile not bvr here is the source ..:: DENEL DYNAMICS - Division of Denel Pty LTD. ::..

I also search about spec of grifo m radar but i havn't got any reliable source.

[Myth_buster_1]

BVR weapon, Would you plz eleborate more on, what kind of BVR weapon you are talking about? thanks

could be a R-darter for stop gaps?? but why would they induct another BVR AAM in additional to SD-10 MICA AMRAAM? or does PAF find R-Darter very close to Derby missiles in IDAF and considering worth it?

[shehbazi2001]

A-Darter is not a BVR missile. In Darter series, there were discussions of T-Darter/R-Darter as BVRs in the recent past. R-Darter (Radar Darter) was reportedly used on South African Cheetah fighters. R-Darter is also called as V4.

Cheetah was an upgraded and modified Mirage III series fighter. Cheetahs have been recently retired and JAS-39 Grippen shall replace them. The following link says that R-Darter has been retired alongwith Cheetahs, although some links suggest that its not been retired completely. T-Darter seems to be the future replacement of R-Darter. R-Darter is strikingly similar to Israeli Derby.

The South African Air Force

Retired Cheetahs may interest PAF if they want to maintain Mirage III fleet for still some time, if they are offered at throw-away prices.

It is interesting to note that Brazil even equipped its small F-5 fighters with BVR Derby missiles. F-5 is a small fighter which was originally designed for close combat only. India may also equip its LCA with Derby.

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[melb4aust]

could be a R-darter for stop gaps?? but why would they induct another BVR AAM in additional to SD-10 MICA AMRAAM? or does PAF find R-Darter very close to Derby missiles in IDAF and considering worth it?

I highly doubt that PAF will precure something new as BVRAAM for aeging mirages, no doubt they ll stay for another couple of years but there is a big ???, while the platform like JF-17 is being inducted.

These could have been another rumours some what similar to AIM-7 sparrow, or perhaps something confidential, which PAF is famous of.

[metalfalcon]

Even after Rose upgrade Mirages Will be retired from PAF slowly and gradually so in the mean Time PAF also wants Mirages to Have BVR capability in case we are forced into a Conflict.

JF-17 is PAF's Prime Focus and Lets see What PAF Inducts in Thunder's Arsenal. New F-16 Block 50/52 and J-10 will also Enhance the PAF's Fighting Capabilities.

[hj786]

Sweet pictures of the Mirage ROSE glass cockpit. If PAF wants them to be BVR capable, they can simply integrate SD-10 with their Grifo M3 radars. Right now they are probably more useful as trainers for aerial refuelling and strike platforms though, hence the fitting of aerial refuelling probes.

[fatman17]

I think A-Darter is a wvr missile not bvr here is the source ..:: DENEL DYNAMICS - Division of Denel Pty LTD. ::..

I also search about spec of grifo m radar but i havn't got any reliable source.

i stand corrected!- what i meant was R-Darter or V4 (by Shebazi2001). now could it be that V4 in PAF terminology is H4 !!!

[Zob]

i think it is the T-DARTER....that is under going test trials and is an advancement of R-DARTER

[mean_bird]

The project "ROSE" (Retrofit of Strike Element") was set up to reclaim as many airplanes as possible and to upgrade them with latest avionics. Originally it was thought that only 20 - 25 airframes could be made operational but eventually, more than 40 airframes were refurbuished and put back in service.

The avionics upgrade included fitting of HUD, HOTAS controls, RWR's chaff / flare and most important of all the retrofit of FIAR Griffo Radar. This radar is the Italian copy of APG-68 and has full look down shoot down capability. At present No 7 Squadron is inducting a BVR weapon of South African origin.

Are these your words or is it from some report/news? In case this is from a report, how old is it?

just want to know so we can speculate on the "at present".

[Nishan_101]

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Hey for u people i have a pic o mirage Rose-I aving 3 of MICA(radar guided version) fitted under fuselarge with multiple ejecting recks if u people could tell me how to post pics witout using attachement option so it will be great for me thank you and paf may be using H-2 & H-4 as a BVR with Mirage and will use with JF-17's and J-10's in near future which said to in league of T-darter which u were discussing and it might have technology similar to SD-10 tot through China and MICA's