Chengdu: J-10/FC-20 Multirole Fighter Air Craft

[fatman17]

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Are we supposed to be getting any J10 in 2012. If so, then how many?

very unlikely - possible window 2014-15

[RAJAOMAIR]

Hassan

You are absolutely right but somehow my un- scientific mind can not comprehend that how an F-16 (which we have in limited quantities and would not get more given the US back stabing policies) and JFT can defend against more powerfull twine engine aircrafts. I know it will be expensive to have twine engine fighters but nothing more important then the defense of our motherland.

Following is a quote from another posters comments which describe my own feelings and thoughts

"If Pakistan has sensible, literate and intelligent Air Command it should realise by now that real threat can not only come from the Eastern border but is more dangerously present now at the Western front as far West as Israel or more given the aggressive and hostile military presence of USA and NATO and subversive Israeli MOSSAD presence inside Pakistan.

Pakistan can no longer afford to invest in antiquated stupid but expensive war toys like the F-16 (intelligently rejected by India) with built in tracer bugs and kill buttons and the badly designed overweight JF-17 with Russian under-powered smoky engine.

If it is serious, given the current and the developing defence panorama Pakistan now needs a truly lethal multi-range multi-role Air Force equipped with up to date air craft like F-15, F-18, Eurofighter, Rafale, MIG-31, MIG-35, SU-27, etc., and not more junk like J-10B with very limited capabilities to meet Pakistan EAST-WEST-NORTH-SOUTH increasingly war-prone requirements."

I can't believe that Air Forces of Indonesia, Venezuela and Uganda even have SU30s and what we got?


Instead of 250 JFT and 150 J10B, I would rather have 36 Su30 or SU35 and 36 J11bs. 100 JFT and 36 J10b along with 36 SU 30 and 36 J11b may just cost us the same amount of money but would give us parity (not in numbers but in technology and capabilities) with the modern Air Forces in our region.

And please no more nuclear deterrent. We have enough of that. I beleive God has provided us a chance in the form of Putins visit and we should take advantage of it. Just my opinion.

In my last trip back home (February this year) I had the privilege of meeting and talking to a fine brave pilot of PAF and believe me as per that fine young man morals are down. And I don't blame him. I mean no matter how good of a shooter you are, you don't have much of chance if you only have 9mm Glock and your opposition have a machine gun.

I am requesting all the forum members to think about it. And let us start a campaign and do what ever we can in our capacity. Write letters emails to PAF and Government etc. May Allaha make us realise that what needed to be done. Nothing is impossible. We just need to believe and do the right thing.

i agree with most of it but.. f-16 still is comparable to all jets u named... u think israel,turkey's airforces are not modern

and also mig-31 is old crap instead.. u should write jas 39 grippen...

[Shadow_Hunter]

i agree with most of it but.. f-16 still is comparable to all jets u named... u think israel,turkey's airforces are not modern

and also mig-31 is old crap instead.. u should write jas 39 grippen...

Israel operates F16I, which is the most advanced version yet. Turkey is getting 100 F35.

[RAJAOMAIR]

Israel operates F16I, which is the most advanced version yet. Turkey is getting 100 F35.

The F-16I is a two-seat variant of the Block 52. Turkey is not getting f-35s to replace f-16.

[hatf IX]

Israel operates F16I, which is the most advanced version yet. Turkey is getting 100 F35.

As per my knowledge UAE has the most advance version of F-16 that is block 60 with AESA radar . . . Don't you think . . .?

[alimobin memon]

Israel operates F16I, which is the most advanced version yet. Turkey is getting 100 F35.

0_o? Really F16E and new F16 V are the latest and F16I is block 52 not even block 52+

[Pak47]

Israel operates F16I, which is the most advanced version yet. Turkey is getting 100 F35.

UAE has the most advanced F-16's.

And according to you the most advanced plane ever built was Su-30 mki right???

[DANGER-ZONE]

This thread is DEAD, No major development in PAF specially under great RAO QAMAR SAHAB.
MODS should bury it now.
I am tired of reading / hearing FC-20/J-10B FOR PAKISTAN

[REHAN NIAZI FALCON]

This thread is DEAD, No major development in PAF specially under great RAO QAMAR SAHAB.
MODS should bury it now.
I am tired of reading / hearing FC-20/J-10B FOR PAKISTAN

same is what i believe , no development in this project.....
should be opened after 2 to 3 years when we will have chance of getting those birds ....

[RAJAOMAIR]

Israel operates F16I, which is the most advanced version yet. Turkey is getting 100 F35.

lie=banned.........

[graphican]

There is so much disappointment in the air these days. You guys are not alone who are feeling that.. there is a deep sense of grief, loss and powerlessness these days and defense deals is not an exception. But its all cosmetic.. I have refused to accept this as reality.. and the moment I would quit, that would become my reality. At present this low wave is a condition at most. We all have potentials inside us and we are looking towards someone else, some person some party some character to come and lead so we could combine our energies with him and rise. Some say leaders are born and not made, others say leaders are made not born but I just know one thing for sure that there is one leader in the world and that is me. I am standing and refusing to embrace this as my reality. I know I have a slight contribution to make and I owe to this Nation.

Have faith.. you are not dead.. nor are our millions of brothers out there standing for us and with us. I know theis forum will be delighted because your inner leader would have made the slight little difference along with millions of leaders who would have made theirs. Accept your role.. accept that you are alive. And when you are not sure what change to make outwards to contribute, it is exactly the time when you make this change inwards.

Pakistan will Inshallah get J-10s all it needs and all it wants.Come-on people, even our enemies see as one of the strongest Nations on earth.. but you don't believe them.. do you?

[ANTIBODY]

Dual missile rails

[DANGER-ZONE]

I know its all written CHEE CHA PONG and is useless unless translated but Dual missile rails are easily visible and operational. Thats all i could get from the pic.
Nice post.

[applesauce]

I know its all written CHEE CHA PONG and is useless unless translated but Dual missile rails are easily visible and operational. Thats all i could get from the pic.
Nice post.

it talks about the integration of new EW suites/pods on chendu MR's j-10A's, and how ts successsful, etc etc

[Mani2020]

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Quoting Hkhan

The main issue regarding the J-10B/FC-20 delivery to PAF is the production issue. At present J-10A's production in China is not even meeting PLAAF needs.

To fulfill PAF order of J-10B/FC-20, Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation (CAIC) has to build a brand new facility which presently is in construction stages and it will take another 24 months before any production of aircraft can take place.

On the other hand, Egypt is studying the concept of J-10 seriously. Earlier this year a high level Egyptian military delegation visited China for two-weeks. It wants to replace its fleet of F-7 & MiG-21 along with Mirage V & 2000 and has shown interests in both JF-17 and J-10 aircrafts.