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    Great Video of Egyptian friends , they have mass produced the K-8!! Wonderful plane

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    according to combat aircraft magazaine
    venuezela has 12 K-8s and has ordered 24 more to be delivered this year
    will pakistan get any money out of it?

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    K-8 Shoots Down Superior L-15
    by James Dunnigan
    September 4, 2010

    A Chinese aircraft manufacturer has produced an attack version of the L-15 jet trainer. Normally, the L-15 just carries a trainee pilot and an instructor. But the attack version has a pilot and a weapons systems officer. The L-15 is a 9.5 ton aircraft with a max speed of 1,000 kilometers an hour and a combat radius of 550 kilometers. Since it first flew four years ago, the L-15 has been offered to the Chinese armed forces and foreign customers, without much success.
    The problem is the K-8, which is a smaller, cheaper Chinese jet trainer. The K-8 is a 4.3 ton, two seat aircraft. The trainee and instructor are replaced by a pilot and observer on combat missions. Max speed is 800 kilometers an hour. The K-8 entered service in 1994, and over 500 have been built. The aircraft can be fitted with a 23mm cannon, and carry nearly a ton of missiles and bombs. Egypt and Pakistan also use the K-8. The aircraft sells for $4-5 million each. The L-15 sells for more than twice as much, but carries about the same amount of weapons. The L-15 is touted as a more suitable trainer for pilots headed for high performance (like the Su-30, F-16 or J-10) aircraft. But so far, air forces have found it more economical to buy the K-8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace slasher View Post
    according to combat aircraft magazaine
    venuezela has 12 K-8s and has ordered 24 more to be delivered this year
    will pakistan get any money out of it?
    I highly doubt it as Pakistan doesn't manufacture it or has any technology in it other than that they requested China for it.

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    the K-8 will replace the T-37 in the basic jet trainer category, so expect more K-8 to be inducted.
    PAF has a need for a AJT (advanced jet trainer) and therefore the L-15 could be a choice, even though the chinese have opted to get a different trainer for its airforce (reported elsewhere on the forum already)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatman17 View Post
    the K-8 will replace the T-37 in the basic jet trainer category, so expect more K-8 to be inducted.
    PAF has a need for a AJT (advanced jet trainer) and therefore the L-15 could be a choice, even though the chinese have opted to get a different trainer for its airforce (reported elsewhere on the forum already)
    Could twin-seat JF-17 be used for both AJT role and fighter conversion, instead of inducting another type, I would imagine JL-15 should be on par with JF-17s interms of cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rAli View Post
    Could twin-seat JF-17 be used for both AJT role and fighter conversion, instead of inducting another type, I would imagine JL-15 should be on par with JF-17s interms of cost.
    2 seat version of JFT has been cancelled. There are no 2 seat version of JFT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by penumbra View Post
    I highly doubt it as Pakistan doesn't manufacture it or has any technology in it other than that they requested China for it.
    R&D share and the money put in the system by PAC wont go wasted... they will get there share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjnaushad View Post
    2 seat version of JFT has been cancelled. There are no 2 seat version of JFT.
    According to PAF officials at Farnborough, the two-seat variant is still in the pipeline. It may not be used as a fighter-conversion trainer, but it would have a lot of use as specialized variants for strike, ECM/EW, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatman17 View Post
    the K-8 will replace the T-37 in the basic jet trainer category, so expect more K-8 to be inducted.
    PAF has a need for a AJT (advanced jet trainer) and therefore the L-15 could be a choice, even though the chinese have opted to get a different trainer for its airforce (reported elsewhere on the forum already)
    In past Pakistan had been looking into L-39 as a choice for advance jet trainer.

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    Apparently the K-8 will be fulfilling that role for some time..
    unless the L-15 ends up replacing the FT-5's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by penumbra View Post
    I highly doubt it as Pakistan doesn't manufacture it or has any technology in it other than that they requested China for it.
    PAC did manufacture part of K-8 like forward fuselage, etc. I do not know if they still do or not given PAC is now more interested in producing the JF-17.

    Basically, the K-8 assembly was opted against given PAF was buying too few of them to justify a dedicated line for it. It did, however made parts of it that were shipped to china to be assembled there. Don't think thats the case now though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by santro View Post
    Apparently the K-8 will be fulfilling that role for some time..
    unless the L-15 ends up replacing the FT-5's.
    the FT-5s will be replaced very soon say 2-3 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatman17 View Post
    the FT-5s will be replaced very soon say 2-3 years.
    Their life ends in 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by santro View Post
    Their life ends in 2011.
    just for that reason 20 a/c r being upgraded at Kamra these days.!


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