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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistani Nationalist View Post
    Classified...

    Classified.



    Rpg-7,RPG-29,M-60,FN Minimi,SAWs,MG-3s,PK Mg etc.... they have been seen using several types of weapons and not many operational pics are available.



    RPGs,C-4,Claymores,grenades,UBGLs,SAWs,snipers...Air cover.



    Yes...
    Thanks for your reply.

    Can you share like what topics are covered in the special classes.Like Indian SFs are taught various languages,working of satellites etc.

    Secondly,You mentioned snipers are present in small teams.I know now that the number is classified but to have a sniper in a small team would mean they would be section size i guess.

    Lastly what type of martial art form are they taught?

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    Well one of the specialist SSG, SSGN, SSW, skills is languages, all the indian regional languages and other national languages are taught, to a very high standard, even degree level.

    Pakistani Special Forces are trained to perform small unit Ops, and even as solo-operators, but the ideal is a 4 man team, based on the experience of the SAS, GB, SEALS etc.


    You can see some of the skills, in this joint Pak-Turkey special forces exercise.

    On the whole, Pakistani special forces - choose weapons from a wide range of sources, and use them at their whim.
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    Default Re: SSG- Special Services Group

    Quote Originally Posted by Rafi View Post
    Well one of the specialist SSG, SSGN, SSW, skills is languages, all the indian regional languages and other national languages are taught to a very high standard, even degree level.
    Same here..Indian SF operatives are also very fluent in Pakistani languages.Moreoever the degree level thing has been taken by the IA Generals by great interest and the plan now is to make sure every jawan retires with a degree.

    Pakistani Special Forces are trained to perform small unit Ops, and even as solo-operators, but the ideal is a 4 man team, based on the experience of the SAS, GB, SEALS etc.
    Solo operators..there would be some thinking behind that.I see it as both positve and negative.

    4 man team is pretty much same everywhere(+/- 2)IA SFs use 6 man teams while Marcos use 4-8 man teams depending on the scenario.

    Lastly i wana add i have been seeing your SFs videos on youtube for a long time and i must say they are impressive..had a few questions so decided to ask here..BTW thanks for replying to both of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by COLDHEARTED AVIATOR View Post
    Same here..Indian SF operatives are also very fluent in Pakistani languages.Moreoever the degree level thing has been taken by the IA Generals by great interest and the plan now is to make sure every jawan retires with a degree.



    Solo operators..there would be some thinking behind that.I see it as both positve and negative.

    4 man team is pretty much same everywhere(+/- 2)IA SFs use 6 man teams while Marcos use 4-8 man teams depending on the scenario.

    Latly i wana add i have been seeing your SFs videos on youtube for a long time and i must say they are impressive..had a few questions so decided to ask here..BTW thanks for replying to both of you.
    No problem mate, we are all here to learn about each other. Thank you about our SF's, we are proud of them, you have some good operators yourself, live long and prosper fella.
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    why we still use chinese smg known as type 56 as it has more recoil than other smgs around the globe

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    Quote Originally Posted by HANI View Post


    pak ssg officers having meal with jawans

    Can,t see these images in many armed forces ......

    Special Forces around the world share this trait where the officers and non-commissioned troops work and operate together very closely. The point with this specific photo is that its not just any officer. Its actually the GoC SSG (Maj Gen Haroon) eating with his troops and roughing it with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blain2 View Post
    Special Forces around the world share this trait where the officers and non-commissioned troops work and operate together very closely. The point with this specific photo is that its not just any officer. Its actually the GoC SSG (Maj Gen Haroon) eating with his troops and roughing it with them.
    Most probably this picture is from the Swat Operation. Where the GOC went in with is troops in the first wave of the aerial assault.

    He is a very good officer and a gentleman officer.

    I hope he becomes the next COAS. He has combat experience and has dealt with the COIN operations and led his men and led the largest aerial assault in the Pak Army history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fatman17 View Post
    Special Operations School

    History

    The Special Services Group of Pakistan Army was raised in 1956 with Lt. Col. Abubakar Osman Mitha as its first Commanding Officer. The Special Services Group like Special Forces all over the world has been assigned multifarious tasks. It undertakes parachute commando operations, guerilla warfare operations, anti terrorist and frogmen operations. A lot of emphasis is laid on a very high standard of training to produce a soldier of the highest calibre who easily fits into the rigours of life in the Special Services Group.


    Location

    Special Operations School is located in Cherat which is called the home of Special Services Group. Cherat is located in the crest of Khattak Range at approx 4500 ft above sea level in North West Frontier Province (NWFP) of Pakistan. It is 52 Kilometres from Peshawar and 54 kilometres from Nowshera. The road from Cherat bifurcates from Pabbi Railway Station on Grand Truck Road. Timewise it is approx 45 minutes drive from Pabbi Railway Station. The climate in Cherat is very pleasant in summers and cold in winters. Strong winds are a constant feature.


    Educational Philosophy

    Serving with Special Services Group is very demanding both physically and mentally. The philosophy of education in this institution aims at imparting such training in an environment which allows the true self of student trainees to emerge in their physical, psychological and mental prowess. It aims at obtaining optimum mental and physical performance from students in extreme conditions. This not only contributes towards self-discovery of students but also makes possible the right selection of personnel for induction into Special Services Group.


    Faculty

    The school has a dedicated faculty and staff for each category of the course. Break down of the faculty is as follows:

    Advance Training Wing
    Basic Training Wing
    Special Training and Publication Wing
    Research, Trials and Publication Wing
    Administrative Support Wing

    The Courses

    Officers Advance Commando Course
    Basic Commando Course (Officers and Soldiers)
    Anti Terrorist Course
    Sniper Course
    Security Course (Officers and Soldiers)
    Advance Frogmen Course (Officers and Soldiers)
    Professional Unarmed Combat Course (Martial Arts) (Officers and Soldiers)


    Selection Criteria

    Commando Course

    Should be a volunteer
    Medical Category TV
    Maximum service 5 Years
    Should be less than 25 years of age.

    Physical Standards
    Chin ups - 8
    Sit ups - 30 in one minute
    Push up - 30 in one minute
    1 Mile run - 7.30 minutes

    Anti Terrorist, Security and Sniper Course

    Should be a marksman in pistol and rifle firing
    Medical Category 'A'
    Physical standards same as for commando course

    Frogman Course

    Medical Category 'A'
    Should qualify chamber test upto 180 ft sea water.
    Physical standards as above.
    Swimming Standards
    Should be able to swim 200 meters in 7 minutes (breast stroke)
    Should be able to swim 25 meters Underwater
    Should be able to swim 30 meters in full uniform with weapon

    Professional Unarmed Combat Course

    Physical standards as mentioned in the frogmen course


    Campus

    The School campus in Cherat comprises an administration block, two training blocks and two residential blocks for trainee officers and men. The campus is situated within Cherat Cantonment and no separate boundary exists. There is also a cinema hall and canteen. These blocks and facilities are within walking distance.


    Training Facilities

    Model Rooms
    Class Rooms
    Survival Range
    Explosive Range
    Firing Range
    Assault Courses
    Cinema Hall
    Mountain Craft Training sites
    Frogmen Training sites
    Fighting in Built Up Area Range
    Killing Houses for Anti Terrorist Training
    Close Quarter Battle Firing Range

    Conclusion

    The standards maintained in various courses are very high which results into major dropouts at various stages of the course. The standards are kept high to ensure suitable intake into the Special Services Group.

    What is the major difference between USMC and SSG in each part of Schooling...

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    Default Re: SSG- Special Services Group

    ^

    I think a fairer comparison to SSG would be perhaps the Green Berets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RazPaK View Post
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    I think a fairer comparison to SSG would be perhaps the Green Berets.
    i think in USMC each candidate know how to deal with every instrument of Armed forces. I mean Jack of all trade in Army, which is some time lack in SSG..
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    Why did Army choose the name Special Service Group - the coolest name for SSG I think should have been the fore runner of all Special Forces.

    The Corps of Guides

    If they are any ex SSGs - can you let us know

    What do members think!

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    My uncle who lives in Faisalabad was SSG for 15 years before he retired people are afraid of SSG they are known for having short tempers LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saquib View Post
    Why did Army choose the name Special Service Group - the coolest name for SSG I think should have been the fore runner of all Special Forces.

    The Corps of Guides

    If they are any ex SSGs - can you let us know

    What do members think!
    They are also known as the Black Stork if that sounds better lol

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    Special Forces name should always be understated it is designed to confuse the enemy - Special Air Service - the name was use to confuse the germans into thinking there was a airborne force in North Africa.

    Special Forces by their nature of their duties they have to carry out have to be understated, discrete. The name should reflect that - The Corps of Guides I think reflects that by being understated and confusing the enemy into thinking it is a large crops size force and specially it should show Pakistani sense of humour!
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    chalo bhi khoon ka nashta kereen .

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    I just came from waziristan in May,I was posted there...
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