Shouldnt we start trying to manufacture our own home grown frigates

[GHOST RIDER]

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Pakistan Navy which is trusted to guard the 1000km coast line of Pakistan
now has Type 21 frigates,Ex USS McInerney
and recently has new state of art Chinese F-22p frigates
Dont you people think that we should now come up with our own designs and start manufacturing patrol boats and warships for our own navy
along with some lethal weapons system
If we look at India those guys have home grown warships,which are pretty good

Dont you guys think that now we should also start desigining and manufacturing warships for our navy
what do you people think?????????

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Well we did/do produce the Jalalat class missile boats............ I wish they start thinking abt it........... Probably $$ is the reason......

[mirage 5000]

thats what i ask in another thread largest boat we made was PNS JURRAT/ QUWWAT

[mirage 5000]

now question in my mind is what we got from TOT agreement and what would be next step ? we got tot of agusta-90 and we make them here but i never see next they even try to make a small sub with imported engine .now f-22p after this frigate whats there plan? pack they tools and sleep as they done with agusta project?

[Mo12]

now question in my mind is what we got from TOT agreement and what would be next step ? we got tot of agusta-90 and we make them here but i never see next they even try to make a small sub with imported engine .now f-22p after this frigate whats there plan? pack they tools and sleep as they done with agusta project?

what TOT? got any source or ur own thinking?

[Penguin]

Pakistan Navy which is trusted to guard the 1000km coast line of Pakistan
now has Type 21 frigates,Ex USS McInerney
and recently has new state of art Chinese F-22p frigates
Dont you people think that we should now come up with our own designs and start manufacturing patrol boats and warships for our own navy
along with some lethal weapons system
If we look at India those guys have home grown warships,which are pretty good

Dont you guys think that now we should also start desigining and manufacturing warships for our navy
what do you people think?????????

Wake up: Pakistan is building a F22P at home. That's a good step towards a domestic frigate.

[mirage 5000]

what TOT? got any source or ur own thinking?

you are poor kid trolling all around if you don't know that pakistan also made agusta-90b its mean you still in high school btter to go homework and sleep baby .dont forget drink milk before sleeping as your mama said .



Pakistan and DCN France signed a contract for 3 Agosta 90-B submarines on 21 September 1994. Under the contract, one submarine was to be built in France while the remaining two were to be built in Pakistan. The first unit, "KHALID," was built in Cherbourg and delivered to Pakistan in 1999-2000. The sections of second unit, "SAAD," were constructed in Cherbourg and sent to Karachi for modular assembly in 2000. The third unit of the series, "HAMZA," has been manufactured entirely in Karachi.

PNS/M KHALID:

Pakistan Navy Submarine KHALID is the first of the Agosta-90B class submarines acquired by the Pakistan Navy from France. It was commissioned on 6 September 1999 and inducted into PN Fleet on 21 December 1999. The Agosta-90B is an improved version of the sea proven Agosta 70.

PNS/M KHALID encompasses all qualities to strike terror in the hearts of enemies. The submarine has deep diving capabilities and can undertake patrol of more than 60 days. She also posses state of the art Combat System integrating all available sensors to launch multi-purpose wire guided torpedoes and sub launched missiles. The outfit of submarine systems, weapons and sensors make her unique and unprecedented amongst the existing new generation conventional submarines.

PNS/M KHALID is named after Hazrat KHALID BIN WALID, the great Fighter and one of the most reputed military Commanders of Islam. Agosta submarines are currently in service with three navies. PNS/M KHALID incorporate improvements based on the experience gained by the French Navy and new advances in endurance, acoustic discretion, propulsion and diving capability. Its fully integrated COMBAT system enables the command to quickly evaluate the tactical situation and decide on an appropriate response. The submarine is capable to launch multipurpose torpedoes and submarine launched anti-ship missiles. PNS/M KHALID is first Agosta-90B class submarine built for Pakistan Navy by DCN Cherbourg. As per contract, this submarine was completely built in France. The submarine construction was completed on 8 Aug 98. Sea trials were conducted at Cherbourg, Brest and Toulon. PNS/M KHALID is the fore-runner of Pakistan Navy, capable of undertaking a wide variety of missions, far and deep from home waters.

PNS/M SAAD:

SAAD was the 1st Agosta-90B class submarine built at Pakistan Navy Dockyard under the Transfer of Technology (TOT) agreement with France. She was commissioned in Pakistan Navy on 13 December 2003. Then Ag Captain M Tariq Iqbal Sharafi PN (P.No. 2599) was designated at 1st Commanding Officer of PN Submarine SAAD. The submarine is capable of operating at deeper depths and can under take patrol of more than 60 days. These also posses the state of the art Combat System integrating all available sensors to launch multi purpose wire guided torpedoes and sub launched missiles. The outfit of submarine systems, weapons and sensors make it unique and unprecedented amongst the existing generation conventional submarines.

PNS/M HAMZA:
PNS/M HAMZA, the third Agosta 90B submarine that has been completely built at Pakistan Navy Dockyard was commissioned into Pakistan Navy Fleet on 26 September 2008. The submarine was launched in August 2006 by Begum Sehba Musharraf (wife of then president General (Rtd) Pervez Musharraf). The submarine is named after Hazrat Hamza who is one of the uncles of the last Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH). HAMZA was known as Lion of God and Lion of Heaven for his bravery. PN Submarine HAMZA is the first submarine that has been fitted with MESMA Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system. The submarine has been indigenously constructed under transfer of technology programme by DCNS of France. Pakistan is the first country to use MESMA AIP system onboard a submarine.



look here some of your uncles making it in karachi

[Mo12]

I was talking about the thread, which was frigates.

Oh well, its ok.

[RaptorRX707]

After Agosta submarines experiences.


Pakistan Navy doens't have:

Research and Development (2-4 billions annually)
Lack of resources
Suppliers (too cost)
Avonics Issues
No part availabes


TOT is temporary and limit experiences, just screw driver and assembles.

[mirage 5000]

I was talking about the thread, which was frigates.

Oh well, its ok.

dont be fool they already made some nice peaces we are talking here abut some thing big .

look baby these are made in pakistan

[Dreamreaper]

Pakistan had proper shipbuilding facility for commercial vessels..One of the 10,000 tons freighter for Pakistan national shipping corporation was built in Karachi,and that was way back in the 90s...But as usual mismanagement and selfish rulers gave a damn and let shipbuilding die in Pakistan...
Building a naval ship of Upto 10,000 Tons is still possible in Pakistan using Local engineers and facilities....

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The country is run by bastards....... A latest example:

They took 5 million $ in kick backs n handed over a tender ( of a few Naval tankers ships) to a foriegn company instead of Karachi shipyard which had the best bid.....

[jupiter2007]

Thailand has 10 frigates and an Aircraft carrier. Pakistan need to build more (MRTP-33) missile boats,Cruisers and frigate.

[GHOST RIDER]

Well we have taken two important steps,making two patrol boats and then an f22p frigate

[jupiter2007]

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Pakistan need to invest in new stealth corvette design between 1000-1500 Tonnes (Full load), Speed between 28-33 knots.


1× 76.2 mm calibre AK–176M main gun (or better)
Type 730B CIWS (2× 30 mm 7-barrel gatling guns)
24 cell VLS for FM-90/HQ-7 SAM (or better)
2× 4-cell C-803 SSM launchers
2× 3-cell ET-52C torpedo launchers
2× 6-cell RDC-32 anti-submarine rockets
1× Harbin Z-9EC ASW helicopter