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    Quote Originally Posted by The SC View Post
    A pakistani made Nuclear Submarine is in the making and will be able to fire MRBMs, missiles and torpedos.

    Are you speculating? If not please explain how you've come to know this.

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    The Command is at its current state nothing more than a "shelf" organization.
    It has NO assets other than the officers assigned to it and the building.
    The assets are in the pipeline, but nothing exists YET.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penguin View Post
    Agosta 90B has no VLS, just torpedo tubes (533mm)
    You're probably right, but i was confused by these 10 cells on top of the sub:


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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Rex View Post

    Are you speculating? If not please explain how you've come to know this.
    Its just speculations and dreams that we might be having something like that in near future.But who knows we might be having something to surprise everybody.....

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    Can we be guided by the history of how Pakistan have reacted to defense developments related to India? If yes, then we can say with some confidence that a nuclear second strike capability by India will be responded to with similar developments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by regular View Post
    So this means that we can't use Agosta 90B's torpedo tubes to fire BABUR cruise missile? cuz they too small for it...
    I'm assuming Babur is 533mm compatible. Tomahawk can be fired from 533mm torpedo tubes. So, if you''re developing a cruise missile and have the intention of launching it from subs, you had better make it compatible with either 533mm (which is common, both to the West/Nato and East/ex-WP) or 650mm (which is also used/produced by Russia). It is rumored Israeli Dolphin subs have a pair of 650mm tubes in addition to 406 533 tubes. So, you see mixes in other countries than just Russia. But whether this applies to Pakistan?

    Quote Originally Posted by v9s View Post
    You're probably right, but i was confused by these 10 cells on top of the sub:

    Interesting, but can't tell what sub this is and it may also be Mesma related (how do you know those are VLUs).
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    Interesting, but can't tell what sub this is and it may also be Mesma related (how do you know those are VLUs).
    That's the PNS Hamza. Imran Khan (member here) posted this pic in this thread: A day with A Silent Force To Be Reckon on-board their ships and submarine

    He claimed the cells may be SM 39 Exocet launchers.

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    these 10 cell ur mentioning v9s............

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    u guys u can talk how much u want but thats a truth they alrdy tested it when army is 100 % sure that this thing is working fine and its u must give some reply to enemy then they show their badass weapons AND babur is 1 of that indian showed they got nuclear sub lol pak navy said no worries here is our reply =))) and army`s past had shown that

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    Quote Originally Posted by v9s View Post
    That's the PNS Hamza. Imran Khan (member here) posted this pic in this thread: A day with A Silent Force To Be Reckon on-board their ships and submarine

    He claimed the cells may be SM 39 Exocet launchers.
    I'm not aware of the existance of any VLUs for any type of Exocet....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Safriz View Post
    submarine launched cruise missile?
    Pakistan has small sized subs and Ballistic missiles cant fit in there so yes they may be modifying their subs for smaller cruise missiles.
    Pakistan is reportedly getting 6 Qing class sub which have the capability to launch CJ-10K missile at range of 1500 KM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by v9s View Post
    That's the PNS Hamza. Imran Khan (member here) posted this pic in this thread: A day with A Silent Force To Be Reckon on-board their ships and submarine

    He claimed the cells may be SM 39 Exocet launchers.
    I doubt that. SM-39 like Harpoon uses encapsulated missile launched from torpedo tubes. These so called vertical launch tubes are where the propulsion systems are aboard Agosta 90B (which, in the case of PN, includes MESMA-AIP)



    SSK Agosta 90B Class - Naval Technology


    NationMaster - Encyclopedia: Agosta 90B class submarine
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    who cares wht india , russia , us , any 1 else say its our missile our sub our men lol our scientist we can do wht we wna doo lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahzadasweet View Post
    who cares wht india , russia , us , any 1 else say its our missile our sub our men lol our scientist we can do wht we wna doo lol
    Submarine construction is like a Jigsaw puzzle, if you dont have Blue Prints then untill you have expertise like Germany/US forget Packing it Back.

    Also, you mess with Centre of Gravity, Gravitational Torque could sink your Submarine.

    Read "Locating the centre of mass by mechanical means"

    http://web.mat.bham.ac.uk/C.J.Sangwi...tegrometer.pdf


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