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    Quote Originally Posted by Growler View Post
    First of all you know the brain that mighty god gave you kindly use it for once! Or do some research first for a change will you.

    Secondly. The Frigates are for free and if we are to buy the frigate would cost any nation about a 100 million dollars. The refurbishment cost is 78 million dollars which will be done according to PN requirements.
    Go to this link and educate yourself.
    Instead of suggesting me to use my brain, couldn't you use yours a little?
    Anyways, why am I even expecting that after reading all those threads of yours?

    Pakistan likely to buy Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigate worth $78 million from USA : Defense news
    DAWN.COM | Pakistan | Pakistan to pay $78 mn for 30 year old frigate

    SM-2 missiles are not operational on these frigates used by US first of all. SM-1 were used but they are now retired. Australia didn't get the missile with the frigate. It is spending over a billion dollars to get it fitted on their frigates.

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    Default Re: Pakistan Navy's answer SM-2 for Brahmos.

    Quote Originally Posted by Growler View Post
    The armament package will be announced soon by the PN officials. SM-2 is a prime candidate for FFG up gradation programs.
    Then would nt it be better come with thread when its announced. And then we can discuss "how it becomes and answer for Brahmos. Cheers mate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Growler View Post
    The armament package will be announced soon by the PN officials. SM-2 is a prime candidate for FFG up gradation programs.
    So you mean its not announced or confirmed yet and you are just starting a thread on the basis of your personal assumption ??
    and if we have to go with Jagjitnatts post ..it proves that SM-2 is simply not operation on this frigate which is more than 30 years old.

    wasnt expected

    just wasted my time so my last post....

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    Default Re: Pakistan Navy's answer SM-2 for Brahmos.

    Quote Originally Posted by Growler View Post
    Do you have a link that confirms Pakistan will not get a armament package for FFGs? Other wise you are nothing but a troller.
    The links I posted above clearly state:

    onboard spares, spare and repairs parts, support equipment, publications and technical data, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics support.

    The estimated cost of the refurbishment and support is $78 million.
    there is no mention of weapons and it is common sense that weapons are not supplied when the ships are being donated. If you would have bought it, then it would have been different. Also since you are paying for the above things, if you were keen on buying the weapons, they would have been listed there along with the price tag.

    It is just not feasible for PN to buy weapons since they would cost a lot, much more than the frigate along with the electronic equipment, combat support system, etc etc.

    You already have the chinese systems in place and would prefer those to reduce cost. Hint: F22P

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    Default Re: Pakistan Navy's answer SM-2 for Brahmos.

    Growler sir you made a big mistake by saying that PN will get something that will deter against Brahmos. Indian ego can not accept that their can be something which can be an answer to the Brahmos.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Growler View Post
    First of all you know the brain that mighty god gave you kindly use it for once! Or do some research first for a change will you.

    Secondly. The Frigates are for free and if we are to buy the frigate would cost any nation about a 100 million dollars. The refurbishment cost is 78 million dollars which will be done according to PN requirements.
    Go to this link and educate yourself.
    WASHINGTON: Pakistan and United States signed a contract for the transfer of the guided-missile frigate USS McInerney here on Tuesday.

    The contract will enable Pakistan to take over the USS McInerney at the US Naval station Mayport, Florida on August 31 this year, after which it will be commissioned as PNS Alamgir .A comprehensive refurbishment of the ship will be undertaken under the supervision of US Navy, which will be completed by January 2011.

    Defence Procurement AttachÈ Captain Abdur Rehman inked the contract on behalf of Pakistan Navy. The successful culmination of this contract will also pave way for acquisition of more vessels of same class for the Pakistan Navy to raise a squadron of eight Perry-Class frigates. This will greatly enhance operational readiness of Pakistan Navy.

    USS McInerney is the second ship of the Oliver Hazard Perry-Class of guided-missile frigates. In September 2008, the US Congress had approved provision of the frigate to Pakistan with a delivery date of August 2010. Citing the Foreign Assistance Act and the Arms Export Control Act, Pakistan is considered a major non-Nato ally and is able to receive older unneeded US military equipment. Additionally, the 32-year-old frigate will be given a $ 65 million refurbishment, including anti-submarine capability paid for with foreign military aid provided by the US to the friendly countries. Pakistan will pay $78 million for the frigate.

    Pakistan to get US guided-missile frigate on Aug 31

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    Default Re: Pakistan Navy's answer SM-2 for Brahmos.

    Quote Originally Posted by Areesh View Post
    Growler sir you made a big mistake by saying that PN will get something that will deter against Brahmos. Indian ego can not accept that their can be something which can be an answer to the Brahmos.

    Sir, There is absolutely no answer to the Brahmos, Even The USA are Still on the verge of developing A machine of such caliber, And Brahmos what so ever cannot be intercepted and Its Maneuverability and Accuracy is such that it has No Answer..... If You think I am Un wise here, You very well can Take your point as final... No harm
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    Default Re: Pakistan Navy's answer SM-2 for Brahmos.

    When Pakistan leased USN Brooke class frigates in late 80s and early 90s armaments were also bought to go with it such as SM-1 ASROC and Harpoon.

    Indians trollers that they are lack comprehension about armament package will be also acquired for the FFGs.
    The MK-13 system has 40 round magazine. respectively 8 Harpoons and 32 Standard Missiles.

    The match has started gotta go and watch.

    trollers.
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    Default Re: Pakistan Navy's answer SM-2 for Brahmos.

    Also for indian trollers SM-2 is ship defense weapons in other words it will track and hit the incoming missiles before they hit the ship.

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    Default Re: Pakistan Navy's answer SM-2 for Brahmos.

    Let's wait and see. The US in the past has never sold any truly game-changing weapons to Pakistan.

    That is if the SM-2 can counter the Brahmos at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot View Post
    Also for indian trollers SM-2 is ship defense weapons in other words it will track and hit the incoming missiles before they hit the ship.
    Sir, The Speed has to match as that to the advisory, and even if that matches the Tracking device cannot chase down a target moving at a speed of Over MACH-2 .... Brahmos basically is made to Skid through enemy tracking devices, So Interception of any missile with Brahmos is Not possible......

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    Default Re: Pakistan Navy's answer SM-2 for Brahmos.

    ppl first thing op class is not a charity its wt they O us after heavy losses of men and economy in WOT .secondly PN is no ediot to take another system with no diversity yes it MAY have SM or any other new system but saying that today ll be to premature .abt SM against bramos well u dont need to match its speed to destroy it nither u need very long range actually a slow moving counter missle ll be more effective against heigh sspeed missle y because when it gets close enough to the missle the CM having slow speed ll priject its shockwave and fragmantation in a spharical form thus creating more chance of
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    Default Re: Pakistan Navy's answer SM-2 for Brahmos.

    I think because India acquire Brahmos technology from Russia. US should provide Evolved Sea Sparrow to Pakistani navy. This missile can definitely counter Brahmos, one of the very few successful projects ever came out of India military industrial complex.

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    Default Re: Pakistan Navy's answer SM-2 for Brahmos.

    1) Pakistan is not getting the SM2

    2) Even if it somehow manages to get it, its only a naval platform where on the other hand the Brahmos can be fired from land, sea and air so i dont know how its a deterrent to it.

    3) The SM2 is not configured to intercept supersonic missiles, its more of a deterrent to sub sonic targets.

    4) A couple of Frigates equipped with the SM2 is no where a deterrent to the Indian navy and not at all to the Brahmos.

    and one more thing, the top speed of march 3 is rarely achieved for such missile configurations mainly because of the variable involved, the SM2 is infact not even among the 10 best system in the world, so how it is a deterrent i dont know. Ya now go on and call me a troller also growler lol

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    Default Re: Pakistan Navy's answer SM-2 for Brahmos.



    Quote Originally Posted by IndianArmy View Post
    Sir, The Speed has to match as that to the advisory, and even if that matches the Tracking device cannot chase down a target moving at a speed of Over MACH-2 .... Brahmos basically is made to Skid through enemy tracking devices, So Interception of any missile with Brahmos is Not possible......
    Pakistan Navy already has FM-90N advance variant of HQ-7. Standard HQ-7 has a speed of mach 2.3 where as the latest FM-90N is said to have longer range and speed to engage aerial targets.


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