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    so i guess no confirmed news on HQ-9

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    Default re: Pakistan SAM Capabilities

    there is a thread about it as well......

    http://www.defence.pk/forums/wmd-mis...r-missile.html

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    Default re: Pakistan SAM Capabilities

    I think this thread needs to be merged with the thread mentioned in above post.

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    Hongqi-9 (HQ-9)
    Country: China
    Basing: Land, Sea

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    The Hongqi-9 (HQ-9) is a long-range, high-altitude, surface-to-air missile system developed and manufactured by China, designed to track and destroy aircraft, cruise missiles, air-to-surface missiles, and tactical ballistic missiles. It incorporates technology from the Russian S-300P (NATO: SA-10 Grumble), the U.S. Patriot missile, and preexisting Chinese systems. (1) At present, China is outfitting its Type 052C destroyers with a naval variant of the HQ-9.(2)



    China’s decision to develop and manufacture its own anti-missile system is a manifestation of its twenty-first century goal of achieving what political scientists refer to as “great power status”—the buildup of political, economic, and military strength. A key ingredient of “great power status” is military modernization, in China’s case the renovation of certain outdated aspects of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA).(3) In particular, China has concentrated its recent efforts on boosting its offensive and defensive missile capabilities in order to compete with the U.S. and other Western powers.



    Beijing’s specific emphasis on air and missile defense has its roots in the 1991 Persian Gulf War, during which China observed the complete supremacy of U.S. and Coalition air power in Iraq. The ability of the U.S. to decimate Iraq’s ground-based military with cruise missiles and smart bombs served to highlight China’s relative inability to defend its major cities, military assets, industrial complexes, and other high-value assets against such an attack. The development of China’s HQ-9 surface-to-air missile, therefore, is rooted in its observation and understanding of U.S. military power.(4)



    Ironically, Beijing has ranked among the most vociferous opponents of U.S. missile defense, having denounced various U.S. initiatives during the Clinton administration, and more recently, the Bush administration’s decision in 2002 to withdraw from the 1972 ABM Treaty.(5) Yet in recent years, China has followed a comprehensive two-track plan to bolster its own air and missile defenses: (1) the purchase of Russian surface-to-air missiles and (2) the development of its own missile defense systems.(6)



    An example of this “redundant” acquisition and development program is China’s purchase of S-300P missiles from Russia, and the manufacturing of its own HQ-9 system.(7) The HQ-9, in particular, demonstrates China’s end goal of a comprehensive air and missile defense shield.(8) In a report to Congress on May 28, 2004, the U.S. Department of Defense emphasized this very point:



    Significant developments over the past few years to improve China’s integrated air defense system include . . . [the] development of a land-based version of the long-range HQ-9, to precede a naval version, designed to be a long-range counter to high-performance aircraft, cruise missiles, ASMs, and tactical ballistic missiles.(9)





    It is important to note, however, that the HQ-9 has been in development since the mid-1990s. In 1993, China purchased a large batch of S-300P missiles from Russia, and allegedly obtained a copy of the U.S. Patriot missile from Israel (although Israel denies that such a transfer took place).(10) The Chinese immediately began incorporating the S-300P and Patriot technology into their own air and missile defense system, the HQ-9. In 1997, the U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence suggested that “technology from advanced Western systems may be incorporated into the HQ-9.”(11) That same year, an official at a Russian missile design bureau acknowledged that the HQ-9 would incorporate the Patriot guidance and propulsion systems, thus confirming U.S. suspicions.(12)



    According to missile defense expert David A. Fulghum, “[the HQ-9] uses a seeker-aided ground guidance system. The seeker on the missile sends target data back to the ground, which then correlates the target data for an intercept.”(13) It is assumed that the HQ-9’s seeker is similar to the Patriot’s “Track-via-Missile” guidance system.(14) Such a system, if actually used by the Chinese, would allow the HQ-9 interceptor missile to fly straight toward its target and explode at the point of nearest approach, thus completely destroying the incoming ballistic missile (or aircraft) or knocking it far enough off course so that it misses its intended target. During the Persian Gulf War, the U.S. Patriot Advanced Capability-2 system, which employs “Track-via-Missile,” destroyed its targets between 40 and 70 percent of the time.



    In addition to its land-based deployments, the HQ-9 has been recently modified to complement China’s burgeoning naval forces. Over the past few months, the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) hasoutfitted two Type 052C destroyers with naval variants of the HQ-9, estimated to have a range of 65 nautical miles. Each Type 052C destroyer (similar to the U.S. Aegis destroyer) has six vertical launchers carrying approximately 36 missiles, as well as a phased-array radar system.(15) Initial reports indicate that the naval HQ-9 has a range of 65 nautical miles. The Type 052C destroyers will most likely be based at either Guangzhou or Zhanjiang.(16)



    In October 2003, it was announced that China had sold its FT-2000 anti-radiation system, which uses HQ-9 missiles, to Pakistan as part of the latter’s military buildup against India. Many U.S. defense analysts predict that, over the next few years, the HQ-9 and its variants will be aggressively exported throughout Asia, Europe, and the Middle East.
    accouding to this we bought it back in 2003
    MissileThreat :: Hongqi-9 (HQ-9)


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    Default pakistan air defence system & exaCT capability

    kindly discuss exact capability and air defence system details of pak with authentic links

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    Default Re: pakistan air defence system & exaCT capability

    Wheather Pakistani defence officials are reading all those articles written in defence.pk or not but, I strongly advise Pakistani officials to became a partner (Not order) of Turkish Air defence programs, While they are under design phase now a days.

    Once Pakistan become a partner of those missiles, Be sure that You will produce those missiles however you want in accordance with your requirements. Those missiles will be Vertical launcable systems so That makes it easy to integrate all those missiles for your naval fleets easily.

    and Believe me, Cooperation for Air defence missiles will lead both brother country to cooperate for Naval platforms and Radar technologies too...
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    Default Re: pakistan air defence system & exaCT capability

    some times i feel that cabatli is especially sent from turkish industries to advertise/promote their products in pakistan lol
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    Default Re: pakistan air defence system & exaCT capability

    but he is our all wather friend remember same like his country. love turks.
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    Default Re: pakistan air defence system & exaCT capability

    Quote Originally Posted by cabatli_53 View Post
    Wheather Pakistani defence officials are reading all those articles written in defence.pk or not but, I strongly advise Pakistani officials to became a partner (Not order) of Turkish Air defence programs, While they are under design phase now a days.

    Once Pakistan become a partner of those missiles, Be sure that You will produce those missiles however you want in accordance with your requirements. Those missiles will be Vertical launcable systems so That makes it easy to integrate all those missiles for your naval fleets easily.

    and Believe me, Cooperation for Air defence missiles will lead both brother country to cooperate for Naval platforms and Radar technologies too...

    Cobatli , you are a smart man ... make it happen
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    Default Re: pakistan air defence system & exaCT capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammy007 View Post
    some times i feel that cabatli is especially sent from turkish industries to advertise/promote their products in pakistan lol
    If he was sent to Advertise Turkish products his statement would be like this.

    Pakistan should buy it from turkey.

    but he is saying Pakistan should be partner.

    only A true friend can say this.

    Love turkey
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    Default Re: pakistan air defence system & exaCT capability

    To me a great deal can be achieved while buying things especially air defence related from MBDA
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    Default Re: pakistan air defence system & exaCT capability

    its a time for pakistan to buy or build partnership in order to get technology. Because we need technology not wesapons only.
    so that we can manufacture new weapons of our needs and choice.

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    Default pakistan researching in field of SAMS????

    discuss that pak is researching in this field or not if yes then how much progress???

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    Default Re: pakistan researching in field of SAMS????

    Well some People say that Pakistan has bought FD-2000 from china.Don't know if it's true or not.Other than that i have seen most people agree that Pakistan doesn't have a capable high-Altitude SAM.Don't know why PAF doesn't want a good SAM.

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    Default Re: pakistan researching in field of SAMS????



    Quote Originally Posted by pak-yes View Post
    Well some People say that Pakistan has bought FD-2000 from china.Don't know if it's true or not.Other than that i have seen most people agree that Pakistan doesn't have a capable high-Altitude SAM.Don't know why PAF doesn't want a good SAM.
    Cost issue?


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