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    Default India needs to talk cruise missiles with Pakistan



    The second test-firing of Pakistan’s Hatf-VII or Babur Land Attack Cruise Missile (LACM) on March 22, a day before Pakistan Day celebrations, has been underplayed by New Delhi because the Indian media has missed its import: it gives Pakistan the first strike counterforce capability, as well as ability for precision depth targeting with conventional warheads. Let us explain what it means. Babur is a terrain-hugging cruise missile with enormous radar evasion capability, has a good navigation and guidance system, is highly manoeuvrable, and is a cost-effective and reliable nuclear delivery weapon system. With an enhanced range of 700km most of India’s Agni deployment sites will be within Babur’s range. This will make Babur well-suited for counterforce targeting to hit India’s ballistic missiles with low yield nuclear warheads before they are launched. In essence, most of Pakistan’s ballistic missiles could be retained for second-strike capability. Therefore, while Pakistan has not declared a no-first use nuclear policy, Babur used along with ballistic missiles will give Pakistan both the first use counterforce and second strike capabilities.

    Regarding the conventional role, Babur is understood to provide a Circular Error Probability (CEP) of 20 metres unlike Pakistan’s ballistic missiles with CEP of 200 metres. Babur is believed to be extremely accurate. Its on-board Inertial Navigation System (INS) with the help from the GPS continuously measures the movement, speed and position of the missile. It is equipped with a precision guidance system that allows the missile to hit small targets. Co-ordinates are fed into it before launch and it flies to the target by following GPS waypoints. This makes Babur a good weapon system for accurate land-based depth firepower. Therefore, this LACM will be employed as a precision guided munitions (PGM) for pinpoint targeting for destruction of India’s vital points, bridges in depth and so on. Ballistic missiles used with conventional warheads will at best be weapons for harassment and psychological pressure. It is estimated that Pakistan will retain Babur in the ratio of 3:1 for the two roles; three for precision strikes with conventional warheads and one for nuclear weapons delivery.
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    Default Re: India needs to talk cruise missiles with Pakistan

    Lol...now they want to talk?

    It was India in the first place that excluded cruise missile tests pre notification from the mutual agreement since pakistan at that time had no cruise missiles nor the demonstrated capability to build them indegenously.

    India was taken by surprise when we testfired Babur without prior notification the day after the deal was concluded.

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    Default Re: India needs to talk cruise missiles with Pakistan

    Well, Pakistan has acquired a good capability, India is correcting its mistake; like any good nation should do

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    Default Re: India needs to talk cruise missiles with Pakistan

    We should flick them off! Kind of pathetic we have to make agreements every time we have to test something or what not.

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    Well, the agreements work both ways Sniper. Its not as if Pakistan is doing India a favour by signing it, or Vice Versa

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    Default Re: India needs to talk cruise missiles with Pakistan

    Maybe we should play the bad boys now and keep it like that for couple of years till the ongoing modernisation of our armed forces is completed.

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    Default Re: India needs to talk cruise missiles with Pakistan

    Neo,

    India is modernizing and at a very rapid pace too, These kind of agreements are necessary for avoiding a mistaken launch. India got lots of stuff under its sleeve now, modernizing far faster than Pakistan

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    Agree there about the pace but when it comes to second launch theory we're on par.
    India wanted to keep that advantage of not informing us about cruise missile launches, now we're doing the same.

    Bluff is a evry effective and powerful wepon mate.

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    I know its a very effective weapon, but when you have radars and satellites that detects launchs, which could be mistaken for a hot launch not a test launch when not notified. With our borders being so close; it is not even Funny.

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    Default Re: India needs to talk cruise missiles with Pakistan

    Didn't you realise the same risks when you refused to include them in the first place?

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    Yes, Didnt I just write above that it was Indian Mistake, if at all they refused it in the first place

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    Default Re: India needs to talk cruise missiles with Pakistan

    Indians do have Milsats, IRS you can fully expect them to eyeing in on Pakistani Testrange.

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    Default Re: India needs to talk cruise missiles with Pakistan

    Just wait till Pakistan is able to develop variants of cruise missiles than its going to really heat up, it will be a arms race of cruise missiles and the good thing about it is that Pakistan is one step ahead in that technollogical field.

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    Default Re: India needs to talk cruise missiles with Pakistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Interceptor View Post
    Just wait till Pakistan is able to develop variants of cruise missiles than its going to really heat up, it will be a arms race of cruise missiles and the good thing about it is that Pakistan is one step ahead in that technollogical field.
    In comparison with India, Pakistan is nowhere close to Step ahead.

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    Default Re: India needs to talk cruise missiles with Pakistan



    Quote Originally Posted by Adux View Post
    In comparison with India, Pakistan is nowhere close to Step ahead.
    Better check with the Russians before you claim something as your own lol

    What is the Indian LACM btw?


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