Pakistan has 110 Nuclear weapons, edges ahead of India: USA Report

[aks18]

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good to hear that your country is become capable of doing exports and i am very curious to know that what kinda products you guys exports tell me something big dont tell me anything like onions or wheet or something like that and what kinda investment pakistani companies doing in china what i know is at present pakistan is no where in the world map buisness and economy wise
whole world knows you just due to the bomb blasts and terrorism and you guys still celeberating your nuclear stockpile and enjoying it


you just said that you want equal status like india from the rest of the world(you just mention usa) but situation is same in whole world regarding importance and this thing shows thats who is power or not if u dont admit do not have effect on us this shows that how much u guys feel jealous if you guys want this kind of respect from the world than start behaving like a big boy dont dance over your neculear thing.did you heard from india ever about their nuclear bombs?? as i always end with some famous idioms here is one more wise people in punjab always said "nang di nishani gal chakwi kare" thats your situation buddy and its taking you nowhere no one gonna invite you for free trading or whatever your desire

thanks

Original Post By notorious ausiee

oo come on yar pakistan is one of the largest markets of world who told u there is no business n economy in pakistan ??? why u acting like idiot ???

[ashok321]

The most widely accepted estimates of India's plutonium production have been made by David Albright ([Albright et al 1997], [Albright 2000]). His most recent estimate (October 2000) was that by the end of 1999 India had available between 240 and 395 kg of weapon grade plutonium for weapons production, with a median value of 310 kg. He suggests that this is sufficient for 45 - 95 weapons (median estimate 65). The production of weapon grade plutonium has actually been greater, but about 130 kg of plutonium has been consumed - principally in fueling two plutonium reactors, but also in weapons tests. His estimate for India's holdings of less-than-weapons-grade plutonium (reactor or fuel grade plutonium) are 4200 kg of unsafeguarded plutonium (800 kg of this already separated) and 4100 kg of IAEA safeguarded plutonium (25 kg of this separated). This unsafeguarded quantity could be used to manufacture roughly 1000 nuclear weapons, if India so chose (which would give it the third largest arsenal in the world, behind only the U.S. and Russia).

THis 1000 bomb scenario is that of year 2000, in last 10 years india has accumlated enough plutonium for 1400 warheads.

[khurasaan1]

If anything goes to terrorist than you would be first to suffer. Ex. If they used the nuclear to other country, you would be responsible and if they use against yourself, then you would suffer. I think 100+ nuclear bomb are also very high. Each nuclear bomb can kill around 20-40 lakh people.

Original Post By arihant

we already know who is training those terrorists and sending them to our land...So the more warheads we will have the more it guarantees the destruction of the terrorists trainers(countries) henceforth allowing the stability in peace within the whole world

[Rafi]

indian hubris at it's best, eight hundred million on less than 50 cents a day, feed your poor teeming masses, then talk.

[American Pakistani]

good to hear that your country is become capable of doing exports and i am very curious to know that what kinda products you guys exports tell me something big dont tell me anything like onions or wheet or something like that and what kinda investment pakistani companies doing in china what i know is at present pakistan is no where in the world map buisness and economy wise
whole world knows you just due to the bomb blasts and terrorism and you guys still celeberating your nuclear stockpile and enjoying it


you just said that you want equal status like india from the rest of the world(you just mention usa) but situation is same in whole world regarding importance and this thing shows thats who is power or not if u dont admit do not have effect on us this shows that how much u guys feel jealous if you guys want this kind of respect from the world than start behaving like a big boy dont dance over your neculear thing.did you heard from india ever about their nuclear bombs?? as i always end with some famous idioms here is one more wise people in punjab always said "nang di nishani gal chakwi kare" thats your situation buddy and its taking you nowhere no one gonna invite you for free trading or whatever your desire

thanks

Original Post By notorious ausiee

Ooopss there are dharvi people on PDF too who don't even knew about Pakistani exports. Pakistan is world famous for quality products of leather, clothes & stuffs, surgical goods, sports goods, softwares etc etc. & look who is talking about terrorism, I HOPE YOU HAVEN't forget bombing of airline on the skies of Canada & Samjhaouta Express bombings & terrorism of indian army in Occupied Kashmir, supporting of terrorists in 1971.

[Chogy]

the American govt is even stealing the medical records of their veterans and denying them the medical benefits and pensions as well. anything could be expected from US govt...If u feel I'm wrong then ask anybody who is retired from the army and especially from the Vietnam veterans...
devilz alwayz works under cover...

You sound like you're 14 years old.

I'm a veteran. My brother is also. Oddly enough, our records are intact, our benefits are fine. I have a old neighbor who makes no money, yet gets excellent medical care including surgery, from the VA, Veterans Administration.

You are swallowing baby cereal pablum from typical propaganda sources.

This whole thread makes me ill. "Doood! we'ze gonna whack youze wid our nooks! Yeah baby!" "No way, man, we'll nuke you first." "You suck!" "No, you suck!"

A few people here need a bit more school, then marriage and a family, and maybe they'll stop and ponder it and realize that a nuclear exchange won't have winners, only losers.

[AerospaceEngineer]

Then Pakistan is doomed in an everlasting quest for parity.

(solution: you guys can declare that you're Central Asian's)

Original Post By justanobserver

lol, sorry to you indians. But you know Pakistan does recogonize China as not only a regional but global power in the world.

Beat this.

[waz]

India has 200 kilotone thermonuclear devices in its arsenal ..haven't heard the same about Pakistan.

Original Post By ares

Could you give scientific sources such as FAS or nay other credible organisation to back up what you said? Cheers.

Here is a link

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Indi...ealYields.html

[ashok321]

lol, sorry to you indians. But you know Pakistan does recogonize China as not only a regional but global power in the world.

Beat this.

Original Post By AerospaceEngineer

What is Pakistan, not even a G-20 member like India-China-USA ?

Pakistan is just a peanut in internation community, and as madelline said it "pakistan is an International migraine" Lol

You are beaten, albiet black n blue...

[ares]

Could you give scientific sources such as FAS or nay other credible organisation to back up what you said? Cheers.

Original Post By waz

This article is at-least a decade old but it still points out the kind of devices India has.
India's Nuclear Weapons Program - Present Capabilities

Other than that there are India nuclear physicist pointing out the same

Kakodkar says India has credible thermo-nuclear bombs in the "plural" | NetIndian | India News | Latest News from India | Breaking News from India | Latest Headlines

[waz]

This article is at-least a decade old but it still points out the kind of devices India has.
India's Nuclear Weapons Program - Present Capabilities

Other than that there are India nuclear physicist pointing out the same

Kakodkar says India has credible thermo-nuclear bombs in the "plural" | NetIndian | India News | Latest News from India | Breaking News from India | Latest Headlines

Original Post By ares

The first source states this;

There is reasonable doubt about whether the thermonuclear device actually performed as designed.

So this claim can be doubted.

However, there is some controversy about these claims. Based on seismic data, U.S. government sources and independent experts estimated the yield of the so-called thermonuclear test in the range of 12-25 kilotons, as opposed to the 43-60 kiloton yield claimed by India. This lower yield raised skepticism about India's claims to have detonated a thermonuclear device.

Observers initially suggested that the test could have been a boosted fission device, rather than a true multi-stage thermonuclear device. By late 1998 analysts at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory had concluded that the India had attempted to detonate a thermonuclear device, but that the second stage of the two-stage bomb failed to ignite as planned.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/india/nuke/



As for the Indian scientist, bias comes into play.

Anyhow, India probably does have the ability, but your post stated that you have weapons that have such a yield, where as the test data pointed otherwise.

[alimobin memon]

What is Pakistan, not even a G-20 member like India-China-USA ?

Pakistan is just a peanut in internation community, and as madelline said it "pakistan is an International migraine" Lol

You are beaten, albiet black n blue...

Original Post By ashok321

atleast we are G20 developing nations
G20 developing nations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[waz]

Pakistani Nuclear Arms Pose Challenge to U.S. Policy
By DAVID E. SANGER and ERIC SCHMITT

WASHINGTON — New American intelligence assessments have concluded that Pakistan has steadily expanded its nuclear arsenal since President Obama came to office, and that it is building the capability to surge ahead in the production of nuclear-weapons material, putting it on a path to overtake Britain as the world’s fifth largest nuclear weapons power.

For the Obama administration, the assessment poses a direct challenge to a central element of the president’s national security strategy, the reduction of nuclear stockpiles around the world. Pakistan’s determination to add considerably to its arsenal — mostly to deter India — has also become yet another irritant in its often testy relationship with Washington, particularly as Pakistan seeks to block Mr. Obama’s renewed efforts to negotiate a global treaty that would ban the production of new nuclear material.

The United States keeps its estimates of foreign nuclear weapons stockpiles secret, and Pakistan goes to great lengths to hide both the number and location of its weapons. It is particularly wary of the United States, which Pakistan’s military fears has plans to seize the arsenal if it was judged to be at risk of falling into the hands of extremists. Such secrecy makes accurate estimates difficult.

But the most recent estimates, according to officials and outsiders familiar with the American assessments, suggest that the number of deployed weapons now ranges from the mid-90s to more than 110. When Mr. Obama came to office, his aides were told that the arsenal “was in the mid-to-high 70s,” according to one official who had been briefed at the time, though estimates ranged from 60 to 90.

“We’ve seen a consistent, constant buildup in their inventory, but it hasn’t been a sudden rapid rise,” a senior American military official said. “We’re very, very well aware of what they’re doing.”

White House officials share the assessment that the increase in actual weapons has been what one termed “slow and steady.”

But the bigger worry is the production of nuclear materials. Based on the latest estimates of the International Panel on Fissile Materials, an outside group that estimates worldwide nuclear production, experts say Pakistan has now produced enough material for 40 to 100 additional weapons, including a new class of plutonium bombs. If those estimates are correct — and some government officials regard them as high — it would put Pakistan on a par with long-established nuclear powers.

“If not now, Pakistan will soon have the fifth largest nuclear arsenal in the world, surpassing the United Kingdom,” said Bruce Riedel, a former C.I.A. officer and the author of “Deadly Embrace: Pakistan, America, and the Future of Global Jihad.”

“And judging by the new nuclear reactors that are coming online and the pace of production, Pakistan is on a course to be the fourth largest nuclear weapons state in the world, ahead of France,” he said. The United States, Russia and China are the three largest nuclear weapons states.

Mr. Riedel conducted the first review of Pakistan and Afghanistan policy for President Obama in early 2009.

Pakistan’s arsenal of deployed weapons is considered secure, a point the White House reiterated last week while declining to answer questions about its new estimates. The United States has spent more than $100 million helping the country build fences, install sensor systems and train personnel to handle the weapons. But senior officials remain deeply concerned that weapons-usable fuel, which is kept in laboratories and storage centers, is more vulnerable and could be diverted by insiders in Pakistan’s vast nuclear complex.

In State Department cables released by WikiLeaks late last year, Anne Patterson, then the American ambassador to Pakistan, wrote of concerns that nuclear material in Pakistan’s laboratories was vulnerable to slow theft from insiders. The cables also revealed an American effort to deny its ally technology that it could use to upgrade its arsenal to plutonium weapons.

“The biggest concern of major production, to my mind, is theft from the places where the material is being handled in bulk — the plants that produce it, convert it to metal, fabricate it into bomb parts, and so on,” said Matthew Bunn, a Harvard scholar who compiles an annual report called “Securing the Bomb” for the group Nuclear Threat Initiative. “All but one of the real thefts” of highly enriched uranium and plutonium, he said, “were insider thefts from bulk-handling facilities — that’s where you can squirrel a little bit away without the loss being detected.”

On Monday, The Washington Post, citing nongovernment analysts, said Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal now numbered more than 100 deployed weapons. In interviews over the past three weeks, government officials from several countries, including India, which has an interest in raising the alarm about Pakistani capability, provided glimpses of their own estimates.

Almost all, however, said their real concern was not the weapons, but the increase in the production of material, especially plutonium. Pakistan is completing work on a large new plutonium production reactor, which will greatly increase its ability to produce a powerful new generation of weapons, but also defies Mr. Obama’s initiative to halt the production of weapons-grade material.

Nuclear projects are managed by the Pakistani military, but the country’s top civilian leaders are, on paper, part of the nuclear chain of command. Last year, Pakistan’s prime minister visited the new plutonium reactor at Kushab, suggesting at least some level of knowledge about the program. “We think the civilians are fully in the loop,” one senior Obama administration official said.

Still, it is unclear how Pakistan is financing the new weapons production, at a time of extraordinary financial stress in the country. “What does Pakistan need with that many nuclear weapons, especially given the state of the country’s economy?” said one foreign official who is familiar with the country’s plans, but agreed to discuss the classified program if granted anonymity.

“The country already has more than enough weapons for an effective deterrent against India,” the official said. “This is just for the generals to say they have more than India.”

American officials have been careful not to discuss Pakistan’s arsenal in public, for fear of further inflaming tensions and fueling Pakistani fears that the United States was figuring how to secure the weapons in an emergency, or a government collapse. But in November Mr. Obama’s top nuclear adviser, Gary Samore, criticized Pakistan for seeking to block talks on the Fissile Material Cutoff Treaty, which, if negotiated and adopted, could threaten Pakistan’s program.

In interviews last year, senior Pakistani officials said that they were infuriated by the deal Washington struck to provide civilian nuclear fuel to India, charging it had freed up India’s homemade fuel to produce new weapons. As a result, they said, they had no choice but to boost their own production and oppose any treaty that would cut into their ability to match India’s arsenal.

In a statement in December, the Pakistan’s National Command Authority, which overseas the arsenal, said that it “rejects any effort to undermine its strategic deterrence,” adding, “Pakistan will not be a party to any approach that is prejudicial to its legitimate national security interests.”

Tommy Vietor, a spokesman for the National Security Council, said Friday that Mr. Obama remained “confident” about the security of Pakistani weapons, and said he “continues to encourage all nations to support the commencement of negotiations on the Fissile Material Cutoff Treaty.” Other officials say efforts are now under way to find a way to start negotiations in new forums, away from Pakistani influence.

A senior Pakistani military officer declined Monday to confirm the size of his country’s nuclear arsenal or the describe rates of production, saying that information was classified.

“People are getting unduly concerned about the size of our stockpile,” said the officer, who was not authorized to speak publicly. “What we have is a credible, minimum nuclear deterrent. It’s a bare minimum.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/wo......lear&st=cse

[Storm Force]

Guys you really need to chill out re this nuclear arsenal thing.

It really is a nothing achievement.

NORTH KOREA one of the worlds poorest most corrupt and isolated nations s HAVE Nukes.

Wat good has it done?????????? NOTHING

JAPAN GERMANY AND BRAZIL 3 of the richest nations in the world multiple times richer and technology wise decades ahead of Soth Asia HAVE NO NUKES.

The point Nuke Arsenal gives you zero/nil credibility at the CHECKOUT.

ITS NO BIGGY

[ares]

The first source states this;

There is reasonable doubt about whether the thermonuclear device actually performed as designed.

So this claim can be doubted.

However, there is some controversy about these claims. Based on seismic data, U.S. government sources and independent experts estimated the yield of the so-called thermonuclear test in the range of 12-25 kilotons, as opposed to the 43-60 kiloton yield claimed by India. This lower yield raised skepticism about India's claims to have detonated a thermonuclear device.

Observers initially suggested that the test could have been a boosted fission device, rather than a true multi-stage thermonuclear device. By late 1998 analysts at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory had concluded that the India had attempted to detonate a thermonuclear device, but that the second stage of the two-stage bomb failed to ignite as planned.

Nuclear Weapons - India Nuclear Forces



As for the Indian scientist, bias comes into play.

Anyhow, India probably does have the ability, but your post stated that you have weapons that have such a yield, where as the test data pointed otherwise.

Original Post By waz

IF test gave the desired result or not remains point of controversy but the fact remains Indian tested a thermonuclear device in 1998 and has had over decade to improve on the design(if it indeed was faulty on the basis of result of that tests)..so rest assured India has a thermonuclear device..while no such thing can be said for Pakistan.