Osama Dead. Obama Confirms.

[AAtish]

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I haven't posted in a while... I have a difficult time dealing with the wild conspiracies that inevitably evolve, especially with momentous news like this.

On penetration of Pakistani airspace I posted this on another forum, and I think it's applicable:


And now we have the news that a stealthy chopper was used.

Disposal of the body - the U.S. is in a no-win situation.

Keep the corpse, display it, allow everyone (including Muslim doctors) to inspect it...

"The U.S. is insulting Islam! They are abusing the body! He must be buried within 24 hours facing Mecca."

Dispose of the corpse by burial at sea...

"The whole thing was faked! Where's the proof? OBL is living in a suburb of Washington!"

Display gruesome death photos...

"They are mocking him! This is disrespectful!"

and of course, inevitably...

"It's a PHOTOSHOP!!"

Why are you toggling between two extremes? Here is what they could have done..
Display his dead body to neutral representatives (China, Russia, UN) along with a section of Pakistani representatives for confirmation.. and then they could have “buried him in sea”

I haven't the slightest doubt that they saved enough DNA for 1,000 tests. And there will be archived photos that may be conveniently leaked at some point, but apparently later rather than sooner.

We are still waiting for leaked proofs of 9/11, which have not yet received any convenient time.. though during this time two countries were destroyed and two nations shattered.. hundreds of thousands were killed and millions lost their houses and became refugees or are living well below poverty line..

On the hard questions for Pakistan: There will be a lot of noise for a period of time. The American perspective is that there are too may people in Pakistan sympathetic to OBL, which is why the op was not a joint effort. Evidence for this comes from the many rallies where US flags are burned and prayers said for this criminal.

But eventually cooperation will continue... there's too much to lose otherwise.

None of the rallies held more than 200 people.. out of 180 million.. you do the maths..

Is it a drama? A conspiracy? No. If OBL has been dead for years, his death would have been announced by Bush. If he is still alive, all it would take would be one videotape of him to make America look astoundingly foolish.

There is so much more to comment on, but this is already too long. I'm just glad he's dead.

It is a drama! A conspiracy! And No. Bush wouldn’t do that.. US wanted to hold “strategically strong” area of Afghanistan to keep an eye on China and other “nuclear” powers.. Announcing his death wouldn’t give any benefit.. a tape cannot come out because they killed him looonggg time ago so no risk of “looking astoundingly foolish”..

And for the record.. I’m HAPPY that he died.. Good Riddance

[AAtish]

First of all, this post wasn't directed at you. I kinda of already assessed your stand on this after spending the whole day on this 170 page long thread to read each and every post.

Secondly, My question of was of more deeper level which you failed to understand. What I meant was that do you guys think that these morons like Hafiz Saeed and the mourners (and the Lawyers who presented Mumtaz Qadri with garlands), are they detrimental to your nation or not?

Sometimes they are, sometimes they are not.. depends on national requirements.. you see.. we practice "freedom of speech" .. thus my answer was correct.. If it is in the interest of OUR country, then and only then we'll take action.. and yes.. you might have assessed my "stand" as i have very clearly "assessed" your stand..

[AAtish]

Hi,

Some of my pakistani colleagues really want to show the world how far they have their head buried in sand----and that is okay as well----the world knows it---they have no qualms about that.

Why do you leave a witness behind intentionally----so that they can tell what happened-----. When the british army retreated from afghanistan and during the retreat---the soldiers got massacred---and the afghan and pushtuns only left one man to go back----for what----to give an eye witness account of what had happened to the british amry---so he could tell about the massacre the befell the british---to tell the story of the brutality and fighting experties of the afghan/pushtun warriors.

The Laden family is a witness to what happened----the little girl saw what happened----his young bride saw what happened---her vantage point may have been different that the navy seal who shot her father----but she saw her father die-----.

So now to all the superstar nuclear scientists from pakistan on this board----you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand and believe that Laden is gone----you have his family to vouch for the killing---the killing may have happened in an unagreeable manner----but the execution did take place----Usama Bin Laden was executed by the navy seals-----

And which channel did this "interview" came on?? i might have missed it..

Besides.. leaving a witness behind was used when "recording" system was not there.. these days only "terrorists" use this system.. so are you implying that US navy seals were terrorists??

---------- Post added at 03:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:27 AM ----------

Hi,

Some of my pakistani colleagues really want to show the world how far they have their head buried in sand----and that is okay as well----the world knows it---they have no qualms about that.

Why do you leave a witness behind intentionally----so that they can tell what happened-----. When the british army retreated from afghanistan and during the retreat---the soldiers got massacred---and the afghan and pushtuns only left one man to go back----for what----to give an eye witness account of what had happened to the british amry---so he could tell about the massacre the befell the british---to tell the story of the brutality and fighting experties of the afghan/pushtun warriors.

The Laden family is a witness to what happened----the little girl saw what happened----his young bride saw what happened---her vantage point may have been different that the navy seal who shot her father----but she saw her father die-----.

So now to all the superstar nuclear scientists from pakistan on this board----you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand and believe that Laden is gone----you have his family to vouch for the killing---the killing may have happened in an unagreeable manner----but the execution did take place----Usama Bin Laden was executed by the navy seals-----

And which channel did this "interview" came on?? i might have missed it..

Besides.. leaving a witness behind was used when "recording" system was not there.. these days only "terrorists" use this system.. so are you implying that US navy seals were terrorists??

[Muhammad Yahya]

Hi,

Some of my pakistani colleagues really want to show the world how far they have their head buried in sand----and that is okay as well----the world knows it---they have no qualms about that.

Why do you leave a witness behind intentionally----so that they can tell what happened-----. When the british army retreated from afghanistan and during the retreat---the soldiers got massacred---and the afghan and pushtuns only left one man to go back----for what----to give an eye witness account of what had happened to the british amry---so he could tell about the massacre the befell the british---to tell the story of the brutality and fighting experties of the afghan/pushtun warriors.

The Laden family is a witness to what happened----the little girl saw what happened----his young bride saw what happened---her vantage point may have been different that the navy seal who shot her father----but she saw her father die-----.

So now to all the superstar nuclear scientists from pakistan on this board----you don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand and believe that Laden is gone----you have his family to vouch for the killing---the killing may have happened in an unagreeable manner----but the execution did take place----Usama Bin Laden was executed by the navy seals-----

What is difference between the justice of Changhez Khan and US ?

[dk33]

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